Time Warner dropped newsgroups

Re: Time Warner dropped newsgroups


"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9AC9C8A1BECC8pogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
> "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> wrote in
> news:G-2dnd99b44fuf7VnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@supernews,com :
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:00:02 CST, John McCoy <igopogo@ix,net com,com >
>> wrote in <Xns9AC8C5A3BD969pogosupernews@216.168.3.30>:
>>
>>>"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
>>>news:uYadnbwIzvsfsf_VnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@posted.yhti:
>>
>>>> I don't know how many alt. groups there are
>>
>>>Several thousand ...
>>
>> It's on the order of tens of thousands.
>
> Jeremy still part of the B8MB? Ask him to tell you why it's
> not "tens of thousands".
>
>>> ... because
>>>a lot of bogus groups have been created in alt by people playing
>>>games ...
>>
>> They're not bogus at all.
>
> They're bogus because they weren't intended to be newsgroups
> (i.e. repositories of posts). They were just intended to display
> a cute title.
>
>> I know that this thread is off-topic. It got started
>> by accident. But I think it is good from time to time
>> to talk a little bit about how Usenet works. rasnm
>> is part of Usenet, for good or for ill, so the future
>> of Usenet affects us.
>
> Apologies for continueing the off-topic thread. But I agree with
> you that having some knowledge of things like this is beneficial.
>
> John

I think OT is OK from time to time, especially when it pertains to something
that affects us all. It's just a conversation amongst friends IMHO.

Mike


PS.... did I tell y'all 'bout my recipe fer Blackberry Cobbler....

;^)

>

Re: Time Warner dropped newsgroups

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:41:26 CST, John McCoy <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in <Xns9AC9C8A1BECC8pogosupernews@216.168.3.30>:

>>>> I don't know how many alt. groups there are

>>>Several thousand ...

>> It's on the order of tens of thousands.

>Jeremy still part of the B8MB? Ask him to tell you why it's
>not "tens of thousands".

I'm just counting control messages sent to the ISC,
as do some news service providers who carry that
whole list. Giganews, for example, claims to
carry 110,000 newsgroups:

http :// www .giganews,com /usenet_offers/t/newsgroups.html?gclid=CMnZ1s_2k5QCFQNaFQodXXpntQ

Digirock says they have 120,000 newsgroups:

http :// www .digirock,net /index.php?id=7

Yes, Jeremy is still on the board. He is no longer employed
at Supernews because it was purchased by Giganews. I often
heard the Supernews view that there are not "really"
110,000 or 120,000 newsgroups available and that it does
not make sense to boast of carrying so many empty groups--but
that is what some apparently successful NSPs do.

>>> ... because
>>>a lot of bogus groups have been created in alt by people playing
>>>games ...

>> They're not bogus at all.

>They're bogus because they weren't intended to be newsgroups
>(i.e. repositories of posts). They were just intended to display
>a cute title.

With a news service provider like Giganews, you can
post to any of those newsgroups.

The control messages have been sent.

The control messages have been recorded at ISC.

The structure exists on the Giganews news server
(and some others like them).

They may be poorly named and little used, and their
creation may have been nothing but a joke or vandalism,
but they're newsgroups.

That's how alt.* works.

Marty

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