Montoya vs. Busch

Re: Montoya vs. Busch




On 7/3/08 9:14 AM, in article Xns9ACFC42949154pogosupernews@216.168.3.30,
"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote:

> Megan Zurawicz <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in
> news:C49047EB.61790%listpig@sbcglobal,net :
>
>> Interesting, though,
>> that nobody else noticed anything of the sort happening---hitting him
>> that often you'd think would get noticed, especially as much as the
>> press tends to keep an eye on ol' Rowdy. Or so I'd think, anyhow.
>
> True. OTOH, they'd been competing for 18th place, or thereabouts
> all day. The TV's, at least, rarely pay much attention to the
> guys behind 10th, unless they're wrecking.
>
No contest, but not quite what I meant...I didn't necessarily expect Kyle
(Petty) or Wally or whoever to comment on "gee, lookie back there in
20th..", but if there was all that much banging going on, I'd expect it to
catch their eye sooner or later----and then when the wreck happened, the
observation to come out of "Yeah, I was noticing that that was going on for
a while....." or something of that ilk.

--pig

Re: Montoya vs. Busch


"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9ACDB9F2FEFEpogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
> bob.paxton@gmail,com wrote in news:b2c367a8-4880-4ef5-86e6-427e3a3de238
> @k37g2000hsf.googlegroups,com :
>
>> It's been remarkably quiet in here concerning the little dust-up
>> between Montoya and Kyle Busch. I was glad to hear Wally and Kyle
>> Petty say that Montoya was out of line to intentionally wreck someone
>> under caution.
>>
>> He got a two lap penalty. He deserved more. That was completely
>> uncalled for.
>
> Well, unfortunately, we don't know what annoyed Montoya to start
> it. I beleive they had been racing more or less together all
> day, I'm guessing there'd probably been some incidents of slamming
> the door or bumping fenders earlier.
>
> As for the penalty, I think it was reasonable. I would not have
> been bothered if there'd been no penalty, since Montoya had
> effectively put himself out of contention anyway when Busch got
> his right rear. I don't think spinning another car, at slow
> speed under caution, is a particularly dangerous maneouver, so
> while I don't want to see it happen every week I'm not especially
> upset to see the occasional loss of temper.
>
> John

I read on one of the links at Jayski this morning that KyB had done several
things during the race to provoke JPM, not just what we saw on TV in the few
minutes leading up to the "incident".

KyB already has a a bad boy rep with the fans and I think that he is quickly
manking many enemies amongst the drivers as well. While I don't condone
JPM's actions, I do think that someone needs to give the lad a lesson once
in a while. He has provoked a lot of driver reaction in the NCTS and NNWS
as well.

He is a talented driver to be sure, but he also comes across as an arrogant
punk kid which doesn't sit well with many of the fans or fellow drivers.

As Marty said, what goes around, comes around.

Mike

>

Re: Montoya vs. Busch

OTOH, ol' JP has his own reputation in that direction......so it may be a
certain amount of hot-tempered force meets porcupine-touchy object, no?

--pig


On 7/1/08 00:06, in article j5adndc-DPdIAfTVnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@posted.yhti,
"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote:

> He is a talented driver to be sure, but he also comes across as an arrogant
> punk kid which doesn't sit well with many of the fans or fellow drivers.
>
> As Marty said, what goes around, comes around.
>
> Mike

Re: Montoya vs. Busch

Megan Zurawicz <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in
news:C48F19A5.61705%listpig@sbcglobal,net :

> OTOH, ol' JP has his own reputation in that direction......so it may
> be a certain amount of hot-tempered force meets porcupine-touchy
> object, no?

It would do NASCAR no harm to have a pair of drivers who hate to
finish behind each other. One of the things that established the
reputation of guys like Yarborough and Allison was that they would
rather wreck than finish behind certain other drivers - and more
often than not, instead of wrecking they just went faster.

John

Re: Montoya vs. Busch

On Jun 30, 11:36 pm, Megan Zurawicz <list...@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> OTOH, ol' JP has his own reputation in that direction......so it may be a
> certain amount of hot-tempered force meets porcupine-touchy object, no?
>
> --pig
>
> On 7/1/08 00:06, in article j5adndc-DPdIAfTVnZ2dnUVZ oLin...@posted.yhti,
>
>
>
> "Mike Simmons" <mike...@yhti,net > wrote:
> > He is a talented driver to be sure, but he also comes across as an arrogant
> > punk kid which doesn't sit well with many of the fans or fellow drivers.
>
> > As Marty said, what goes around, comes around.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Si. I saw an online survey today showing some split like 70% in favor
of JPM's take on it and 30% Busch's take on it. Interesting. (I know
those figures aren't right, but I didn't memorize them exactly.)

Re: Montoya vs. Busch

Nancy2 <nancy-dooley@uiowa.edu> wrote in
news:bb691184-b13e-439a-8ab5-eeac30e789f9@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com :

> Si. I saw an online survey today showing some split like 70% in favor
> of JPM's take on it and 30% Busch's take on it. Interesting. (I know
> those figures aren't right, but I didn't memorize them exactly.)

Sounds sorta like the survey that shows 99% of folks think McMurray
was at fault for running over Earnhardt, and 1% (Jamie hisself) think
he wasn't. :-)

John

Re: Montoya vs. Busch

Tom in Bristol sent me this so I'm passing it along to the group:



Bob, since my ISP can't seem to get Pronews to correctly handle posts
to rasn-mod,
I've been among the missing there since my last successful post on May
4th...sigh.

I wanted to comment on JPM giving a an excellent demo of the PIT
maneuver...until
KyB swung around and nearly tossed JPM onto his roof!

I'm told the ISP is 'looking for a different Newsgroup source' but
till then, let
folks know I'm "Tom in Bristol...avidly lurking!"

Tom