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After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

Reply from: Tube Audio
Date: 10 Apr 2008, 01:03
After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

Hi



I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry. I got a printout
and they brought everything into spec.



Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a good
amount.



I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I asked
them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on the other
to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.



Am I getting the runaround?



The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.



How can I get the steering wheel recentered?



I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could play
with that and get the wheel centered?



Reply from: Nate Nagel
Date: 10 Apr 2008, 02:46
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

Tube Audio wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry. I got a printout
> and they brought everything into spec.
>
>
>
> Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a good
> amount.
>
>
>
> I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I asked
> them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on the other
> to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>
>
>
> Am I getting the runaround?
>
>
>
> The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.
>
>
>
> How can I get the steering wheel recentered?
>
>
>
> I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could play
> with that and get the wheel centered?
>
>

yes. the shop you took your car to sucks balls. The only car in which
this would be an acceptable explanation would be an old watercooled VW,
but replacing the driver's side tie rod with an adjustable one (all new
replacement parts are adjustable) will fix that.

they poked you in the no-no spot, whether you try to get your money back
or simply call it a lesson and find a better shop is up to you.

nate

--
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Reply from: idbwill
Date: 10 Apr 2008, 02:54
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

On Apr 9, 8:46 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters,net > wrote:
> Tube Audio wrote:
> > Hi
>
> > I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry.  I got a printout
> > and they brought everything into spec.
>
> > Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a good
> > amount.
>
> > I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that.  I asked
> > them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on the other
> > to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>
> > Am I getting the runaround?
>
> > The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.
>
> > How can I get the steering wheel recentered?
>
> > I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could play
> > with that and get the wheel centered?
>
> yes.  the shop you took your car to sucks balls.  The only car in which
> this would be an acceptable explanation would be an old watercooled VW,
> but replacing the driver's side tie rod with an adjustable one (all new
> replacement parts are adjustable) will fix that.
>
> they poked you in the no-no spot, whether you try to get your money back
> or simply call it a lesson and find a better shop is up to you.
>
> nate
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http :// members.cox,net /njnagel- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ditto.

Reply from: Nate Nagel
Date: 10 Apr 2008, 03:34
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

Nate Nagel wrote:
> Tube Audio wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry. I got a
>> printout and they brought everything into spec.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a
>> good amount.
>>
>>
>>
>> I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I
>> asked them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out
>> on the other to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I getting the runaround?
>>
>>
>>
>> The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.
>>
>>
>>
>> How can I get the steering wheel recentered?
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could
>> play with that and get the wheel centered?
>>
>>
>
> yes. the shop you took your car to sucks balls. The only car in which
> this would be an acceptable explanation would be an old watercooled VW,
> but replacing the driver's side tie rod with an adjustable one (all new
> replacement parts are adjustable) will fix that.
>
> they poked you in the no-no spot, whether you try to get your money back
> or simply call it a lesson and find a better shop is up to you.
>
> nate
>

Forgot to mention, tweaking the tie rods is the right fix. reclocking
the steering wheel isn't. So your intuition was right on, and if you're
really careful and trust that they got the rest of the alignment right,
you could take a stab at fixing it in your driveway - just turn each
sleeve one half turn at a time, making sure that you're loosening one
and tightening the other, and iterate until the wheel is centered.

nate

--
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http :// members.cox,net /njnagel

Reply from: .
Date: 10 Apr 2008, 04:40
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:03:49 -0700, Tube Audio wrote:

>
> Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a
> good amount.
>
>
>
> I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I
> asked them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on
> the other to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>

You are dealing with a pack of lazy cunts. A wheel alignment _includes_
correctly aligning the steering wheel. You have every right to return it
and tell them to fix it.

Reply from: zzyzzx
Date: 10 Apr 2008, 15:08
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

You need to go back and complain. I've had this happen numerous
times, even when I told them to center the steering wheel. All I got
was a rash of shit from someone who couldn't speak English about how
the machine said that it was aligned. I do my own alignments now.

Reply from: Woody
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 00:34
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

Poor shop. If you paid for it with a credit card call the credit card and
contest the bill. They apparently don't know how to do an alignment.


"Tube Audio" <murphysf@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:pXbLj.3052$iK6.2367@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc,com ...
> Hi
>
>
>
> I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry. I got a printout
> and they brought everything into spec.
>
>
>
> Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a
> good amount.
>
>
>
> I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I
> asked them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on
> the other to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>
>
>
> Am I getting the runaround?
>
>
>
> The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.
>
>
>
> How can I get the steering wheel recentered?
>
>
>
> I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could play
> with that and get the wheel centered?
>
>



Reply from: lugnut
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 15:54
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:03:49 -0700, "Tube Audio"
<murphysf@hotmail,com > wrote:

>Hi
>
>
>
>I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry. I got a printout
>and they brought everything into spec.
>
>
>
>Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a good
>amount.
>
>
>
>I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I asked
>them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on the other
>to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>
>
>
>Am I getting the runaround?
>
>
>
>The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.
>
>
>
>How can I get the steering wheel recentered?
>
>
>
>I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could play
>with that and get the wheel centered?
>


You need to go back and either get it done correctly or get
your money back and go somewhere that can do it correctly.
I would be suspect of their ability to do it correctly at
all if they can't do a propert alignment setup before making
adjustments. Part of a wheel alignment is using the tool
that is included with any decent alignment machine and
adjust the chassis components to be "straight" when the
steering wheel is straight. This is true of both 2 and 4
wheel alignment setups. Re-clocking the steering wheel of
most modern vehicles is not possible because of a master
spline. A master spline is used so the turn signals cancel
correctly. You may have alreadly noticed this if you have a
habit of conciously using them. They should also be
checking the column shaft joints for wear and the over
center play in the gearbox or rack.

Lugnut

Reply from: mr.som ting wong
Date: 12 Apr 2008, 16:16
Re: After Alignment Steering Wheel not centered?

thats crap they can recenter the wheel by adjusting the inner tierods


Tube Audio wrote:

> Hi
>
> I just had a 4 wheel alignment on my 1990 Toyota Camry. I got a printout
> and they brought everything into spec.
>
> Now when driving straight the steering wheel is clocked to the right a good
> amount.
>
> I brought it back and they said the car is inline and that is that. I asked
> them if they could bring the toe in on one side and let it out on the other
> to get the steering wheel straight and they told me know.
>
> Am I getting the runaround?
>
> The rack and starring and front end were never touched on this car.
>
> How can I get the steering wheel recentered?
>
> I thought with the tie rod adjustments on both sides that they could play
> with that and get the wheel centered?





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