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Inneresting gas-saving factoid
Awl --
There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
worth of gas.
NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
fwiw.
From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated tires,
for a given car. And speeding.
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Awl --
There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
worth of gas.
NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
fwiw.
From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated tires,
for a given car. And speeding.
--
Mr. PV'd
Mae West (yer fav Congressman) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:
>
> Awl --
>
> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>
> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
> worth of gas.
>
> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>
> fwiw.
It isn't idling, it is operating in "stationary power takeoff" mode
powering my air conditioning and radio.
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:
>
> Awl --
>
> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>
> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
> worth of gas.
>
> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>
> fwiw.
It isn't idling, it is operating in "stationary power takeoff" mode
powering my air conditioning and radio.
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> Awl --
>
> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>
> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
> worth of gas.
>
> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>
> fwiw.
>
> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated tires,
> for a given car.
Thanks, Barack!
> And speeding.
I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
better.
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> Awl --
>
> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>
> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
> worth of gas.
>
> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>
> fwiw.
>
> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated tires,
> for a given car.
Thanks, Barack!
> And speeding.
I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
better.
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
>> Awl --
>>
>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>
>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>> secs
>> worth of gas.
>>
>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>> 3
>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>
>> fwiw.
>>
>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>> tires,
>> for a given car.
>
> Thanks, Barack!
You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
list.
It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
>
>> And speeding.
>
> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
> better.
How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
And how did you measure it?
--
Mr. PV'd
Mae West (yer fav Congressman) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??
>
>
>
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
>> Awl --
>>
>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>
>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>> secs
>> worth of gas.
>>
>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>> 3
>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>
>> fwiw.
>>
>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>> tires,
>> for a given car.
>
> Thanks, Barack!
You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
list.
It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
>
>> And speeding.
>
> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
> better.
How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
And how did you measure it?
--
Mr. PV'd
Mae West (yer fav Congressman) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??
>
>
>
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:34 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>
>>> Awl --
>>>
>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>
>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>> secs
>>> worth of gas.
>>>
>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>>> 3
>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>
>>> fwiw.
>>>
>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>> tires,
>>> for a given car.
>>
>> Thanks, Barack!
>
> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
> list.
> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
So do I. and I keep the tires inflated to the sidewall pressure. Always
have.
>
>>
>>> And speeding.
>>
>> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
>> better.
>
> How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
> And how did you measure it?
I have measured every car from day one (usually new) to the last day I
owned it. Every time I fill the tank I do the numbers.
On 4 Corollas, I have fared better at 70MPH than at 55-65.
Around 50 I get about the same as 70.
Um, we won't talk about my Supra, OK?
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:34 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>
>>> Awl --
>>>
>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>
>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>> secs
>>> worth of gas.
>>>
>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>>> 3
>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>
>>> fwiw.
>>>
>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>> tires,
>>> for a given car.
>>
>> Thanks, Barack!
>
> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
> list.
> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
So do I. and I keep the tires inflated to the sidewall pressure. Always
have.
>
>>
>>> And speeding.
>>
>> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
>> better.
>
> How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
> And how did you measure it?
I have measured every car from day one (usually new) to the last day I
owned it. Every time I fill the tank I do the numbers.
On 4 Corollas, I have fared better at 70MPH than at 55-65.
Around 50 I get about the same as 70.
Um, we won't talk about my Supra, OK?
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:34 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>
>>> Awl --
>>>
>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>
>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>> secs
>>> worth of gas.
>>>
>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>>> 3
>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>
>>> fwiw.
>>>
>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>> tires,
>>> for a given car.
>>
>> Thanks, Barack!
>
> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
> list.
> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
>
>>
>>> And speeding.
>>
>> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
>> better.
>
> How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
> And how did you measure it?
Actually, i discovered I lied.
My Scion tC has the tires pumped up to 44 PSI.
The sidewall rating is 51...
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:34 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>
>>> Awl --
>>>
>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>
>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>> secs
>>> worth of gas.
>>>
>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>>> 3
>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>
>>> fwiw.
>>>
>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>> tires,
>>> for a given car.
>>
>> Thanks, Barack!
>
> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
> list.
> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
>
>>
>>> And speeding.
>>
>> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
>> better.
>
> How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
> And how did you measure it?
Actually, i discovered I lied.
My Scion tC has the tires pumped up to 44 PSI.
The sidewall rating is 51...
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.06.18.23.41.33.723822@e86.GTS...
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:34 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awl --
>>>>
>>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your
>>>> car
>>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>>
>>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>>> secs
>>>> worth of gas.
>>>>
>>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling
>>>> to
>>>> 3
>>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>>
>>>> fwiw.
>>>>
>>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>>> tires,
>>>> for a given car.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Barack!
>>
>> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
>> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
>> list.
>> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my
>> own
>> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
>>
>>>
>>>> And speeding.
>>>
>>> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
>>> better.
>>
>> How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
>> And how did you measure it?
>
>
> Actually, i discovered I lied.
>
> My Scion tC has the tires pumped up to 44 PSI.
>
> The sidewall rating is 51...
That's almost like a bicycle tire.
I'll have to check the tire rating on my Honda Shit -- they are about the
size of bicycle tires.
--
Mr. PV'd
Mae West (yer fav CongressShill) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??
>
>
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.06.18.23.41.33.723822@e86.GTS...
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:34 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awl --
>>>>
>>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your
>>>> car
>>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>>
>>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>>> secs
>>>> worth of gas.
>>>>
>>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling
>>>> to
>>>> 3
>>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>>
>>>> fwiw.
>>>>
>>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>>> tires,
>>>> for a given car.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Barack!
>>
>> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
>> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
>> list.
>> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my
>> own
>> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
>>
>>>
>>>> And speeding.
>>>
>>> I get better mielage with 3 of my cars at 70 than I do at 65. Almost 15%
>>> better.
>>
>> How bout 50 mph? 90 mph?
>> And how did you measure it?
>
>
> Actually, i discovered I lied.
>
> My Scion tC has the tires pumped up to 44 PSI.
>
> The sidewall rating is 51...
That's almost like a bicycle tire.
I'll have to check the tire rating on my Honda Shit -- they are about the
size of bicycle tires.
--
Mr. PV'd
Mae West (yer fav CongressShill) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??
>
>
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>
>>> Awl --
>>>
>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>
>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>> secs
>>> worth of gas.
>>>
>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>>> 3
>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>
>>> fwiw.
>>>
>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>> tires,
>>> for a given car.
>> Thanks, Barack!
>
> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
> list.
> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
If you have a good shop mount your tires, you shouldn't have an issue.
I haven't driven my pickup in close to two months, I needed it
yesterday, checked the tires, all four right at 35 PSI.
I'd be more worried about the spare. Now, I do go to the expensive
garage for new tires because they have the fancy balancer and they do
take care in mounting.
Now the Impala, I run those about 35-37 PSI, the recommended 30 is way
too low. You can feel the difference, and it's not good (to go with the
recommended pressure) car is much less stable, more wallowy, etc. and
the tires even look low. Even at the higher pressure they are still
wearing on the edges, makes me wonder if I need to go higher. They're
the original tires and I had the alignment corrected when I got the car
(about 4K miles ago)
nate
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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.06.16.19.15.45.170688@e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>
>>> Awl --
>>>
>>> There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>>> idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>>>
>>> Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10
>>> secs
>>> worth of gas.
>>>
>>> NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to
>>> 3
>>> minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>>>
>>> fwiw.
>>>
>>> From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated
>>> tires,
>>> for a given car.
>> Thanks, Barack!
>
> You're welcome, Mr. McCain.
> Pedestrian as the advice might be, it's likely still near the top of the
> list.
> It's tough for me to stay on top of, esp. as tires wear, and I have my own
> shop/compressor, which the avg driver doesn't have.
If you have a good shop mount your tires, you shouldn't have an issue.
I haven't driven my pickup in close to two months, I needed it
yesterday, checked the tires, all four right at 35 PSI.
I'd be more worried about the spare. Now, I do go to the expensive
garage for new tires because they have the fancy balancer and they do
take care in mounting.
Now the Impala, I run those about 35-37 PSI, the recommended 30 is way
too low. You can feel the difference, and it's not good (to go with the
recommended pressure) car is much less stable, more wallowy, etc. and
the tires even look low. Even at the higher pressure they are still
wearing on the edges, makes me wonder if I need to go higher. They're
the original tires and I had the alignment corrected when I got the car
(about 4K miles ago)
nate
--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http :// members.cox,net /njnagel
Re: Inneresting gas-saving factoid
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
<UNfitcat@UNoptonline,net > wrote:
>Awl --
>
>There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>
>Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
>worth of gas.
>
I doubt they factored in the cost of a new starter every couple years
if you turned the car off after 10 seconds every time.
>NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
>minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>
>fwiw.
>
>From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated tires,
>for a given car. And speeding.
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:15:09 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
<UNfitcat@UNoptonline,net > wrote:
>Awl --
>
>There was a brief ad campaign in NYC, to the effect that letting your car
>idle more than **10 secs** wastes gas.
>
>Iow, the "cost" of restarting your car is equivalent to only about 10 secs
>worth of gas.
>
I doubt they factored in the cost of a new starter every couple years
if you turned the car off after 10 seconds every time.
>NYC has pretty strict idling laws, which, iirc, limit the legal idling to 3
>minutes. I guess that could be whittled down to 30 sec!
>
>fwiw.
>
>From a practical pov, proly the biggest gas-waster is under-inflated tires,
>for a given car. And speeding.
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