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Grinding Bay Leaves

Reply from: Sheldon
Date: 12 May 2008, 02:18
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

On May 11, 5:07=EF=BF=BDpm, Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwri...@arizona.usa.co=
m>
wrote:
> On Sun 11 May 2008 01:33:40p, Goomba38 told us...
>
> > Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> >> That seems like an even better suggestion. =EF=BF=BDShe could
> >> do a cold infusion overnight into the cider vinegar
> >> without upsetting the basic proportions of the recipe.
> >> I've never done a cold extraction on bay leaves, so I don't know how
> >> easily they give up their flavor.
>
> > I wonder.... fresh leaves over dried would seem preferable in an
> > infusion, right?
>
> Yes, and I would coarsely chop the leaves to expose maximum open edge area=
.

Why don't you STFU, you *disingenuous* faggoty bastard
=2E.. you look exacly like someone who enjoys swallowing penis.





Reply from: Sheldon
Date: 11 May 2008, 22:44
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic,net > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > A stick blender won't work any better than a regular blender or her
> > food processor.
>
> I'd agree that a stick blender is no better than
> a regular blender, but I disagree with regard to
> a food processor. =EF=BF=BDWith a blender, there's at least
> a chance it would achieve a fine grind. =EF=BF=BDI'm pretty
> sure a normal food processor would produce a coarse
> grind, at best.
>
> > All else fails I'd try crumbling a few bay leaves and running them
> > through a pepper mill set on the finest grind... I've never done this
> > so I've no idea of the results, and I'm not intimately familiar with
> > Goomba's grinder but I've heard only good things. ;)
>
> That's a good suggestion. =EF=BF=BDI think it might work.
> Of course, that assumes she has a pepper mill.

I think Goomba has all the best grinding equipment, she'd probably
grind my chorizo to death but what a way to go... ay, carumba! hehe

> > Maybe brewing a strong bay leaf infusion will suffice.
>
> That seems like an even better suggestion. =EF=BF=BDShe could
> do a cold infusion overnight into the cider vinegar
> without upsetting the basic proportions of the recipe.
> I've never done a cold extraction on bay leaves,
> so I don't know how easily they give up their flavor.
>
> Boosting the number of bay leaves would help ensure
> the infusion had sufficient flavoring punch. =EF=BF=BDOn the
> plus side, it would remove the bay leaf solids from
> the final product, which could only be beneficial.

Worth a try, I doubt it would hurt, and those bay leaves may still
have some oomph left to use them in a black bean soup. Bay leaf
infused vinegar should keep like forever (well, at least two years) so
it may pay to make up a good strong pint... I wonder how Bay Crystal
Palace would go down, bet it'd be fine for a bloody mary.


Reply from: Christine Dabney
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:58
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:56:31 -0400, Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast,net >
wrote:

>koko@letscook,com wrote:
>
>> Do you have a whirly blade coffee grinder? that would probably be
>> best. Did the recipe specify fresh or dried? I think that might make a
>> difference also.
>>
>No, I don't have a whirly blade coffee grinder! I don't drink coffee,
>lol. I'm a tea drinker.
>I will be in the market for either a whirly diddy or the mortar/pestle
>though. Which one would you suggest being most valuable if I only wanted
>one or the other?

Hmm..they both have their uses and are used differently. Right now, I
can't see myself having only one... but that is me.

Christine

Reply from: George Shirley
Date: 11 May 2008, 21:48
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Goomba38 wrote:
> koko@letscook,com wrote:
>
>> Do you have a whirly blade coffee grinder? that would probably be
>> best. Did the recipe specify fresh or dried? I think that might make a
>> difference also.
> No, I don't have a whirly blade coffee grinder! I don't drink coffee,
> lol. I'm a tea drinker.
> I will be in the market for either a whirly diddy or the mortar/pestle
> though. Which one would you suggest being most valuable if I only wanted
> one or the other?
I've got both and I use the small electric coffee grinder the most.
That's what I bought it for, never grind my own coffee anyway.

Reply from: blake murphy
Date: 12 May 2008, 18:48
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:48:59 -0500, George Shirley
<gshirl@bellsouth,net > wrote:

>Goomba38 wrote:
>> koko@letscook,com wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have a whirly blade coffee grinder? that would probably be
>>> best. Did the recipe specify fresh or dried? I think that might make a
>>> difference also.
>> No, I don't have a whirly blade coffee grinder! I don't drink coffee,
>> lol. I'm a tea drinker.
>> I will be in the market for either a whirly diddy or the mortar/pestle
>> though. Which one would you suggest being most valuable if I only wanted
>> one or the other?
>I've got both and I use the small electric coffee grinder the most.
>That's what I bought it for, never grind my own coffee anyway.

even if you only use it to grind black peppercorns for use in recipes,
it's worth the money.

your pal,
blake

Reply from: Christine Dabney
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:56
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:44:00 -0700, koko@letscook,com wrote:


>
>I've gotten in the bad habit of buying mortars and pestles. I have
>probably 5 in graduating sizes. Believe it or not I use most of them.
>I don't have one as big as Christine's granddaddy of them all though.

I am going to buy a small one next, I think. That granddaddy, is hard
to drag over to the sink to clean it out. Weighs a ton!!! But it is
a great mortar and pestle.

For those of you that want one, this is a great site for them:
http :// importfood,com /


And the mortars and pestles:
http :// importfood,com /mortarpestle.html

I have the big round one. It weighs about 24 pounds, they say.

Christine


Reply from: notbob
Date: 11 May 2008, 19:52
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

On 2008-05-11, Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast,net > wrote:

> Any other suggestions to get the job done?

Yeah. Screw Rich Bayless (one screw-job at a time) and put in the whole
leaf and remove it before serving.

nb

Reply from: Steve Pope
Date: 11 May 2008, 19:56
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

notbob <notbob@nothome,com > wrote:

> Yeah. Screw Rich Bayless (one screw-job at a time) and put in the
> whole leaf and remove it before serving.

The idea here is it is a sausage seasoning that needs to blend.
I suppose you could have one bay leaf stuck in each sausage,
and later pull it out, but that seems a little odd to me.

Steve

Reply from: Michael \Dog3\""
Date: 11 May 2008, 22:32
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast,net > dropped this
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> Last night I made chorizo per the recipe in Rick Bayless' "Mexico, One
> Plate at a Time" cookbook. It calls for you to grind the bay leaves with
> mortar and pestle, which I don't own. I tried to do it in the food
> processor, even adding the salt from the recipe to act as an abrasive
> but it barely worked.
> Any other suggestions to get the job done?

Maybe a coffee bean grinder? I've got his "Mexican Kitchen" cookbook and I
love it. No recipe for chorizo in it though. I'll have to check out his
other books.

Michael

--
"I'd like to be in Hell in time for dinner"
-Edward H. Ruloff

To email - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

Reply from: Sqwertz
Date: 13 May 2008, 05:09
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast,net > wrote:

> Last night I made chorizo per the recipe in Rick Bayless' "Mexico, One
> Plate at a Time" cookbook. It calls for you to grind the bay leaves with
> mortar and pestle, which I don't own. I tried to do it in the food
> processor, even adding the salt from the recipe to act as an abrasive
> but it barely worked.
> Any other suggestions to get the job done?

You really need to get a small coffee grinder. I don't know how you
managed without either this long.

-sw

Reply from: Goomba38
Date: 13 May 2008, 09:38
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Sqwertz wrote:
> Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast,net > wrote:
>
>> Last night I made chorizo per the recipe in Rick Bayless' "Mexico, One
>> Plate at a Time" cookbook. It calls for you to grind the bay leaves with
>> mortar and pestle, which I don't own. I tried to do it in the food
>> processor, even adding the salt from the recipe to act as an abrasive
>> but it barely worked.
>> Any other suggestions to get the job done?
>
> You really need to get a small coffee grinder. I don't know how you
> managed without either this long.
>
> -sw

LOL, neither do I now!? I always put whole spices in when I could, and
own the basics ground too, but bay leaves are NOT commonly called for in
many recipes so it has never been an issue before. I look forward to
discovering all I can use my newly ordered mortar and pestle for. I
decided to go low-tech to start with though.

Reply from: Sqwertz
Date: 13 May 2008, 17:39
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast,net > wrote:

> LOL, neither do I now!? I always put whole spices in when I could, and
> own the basics ground too, but bay leaves are NOT commonly called for in
> many recipes so it has never been an issue before. I look forward to
> discovering all I can use my newly ordered mortar and pestle for. I
> decided to go low-tech to start with though.

I use my coffee grinder 5x more than my M&P. The MP I use for small
amounts of cumin and wet/oily stuff, but there are a lot of whole
spices that a M&P won't be able to grind correctly (caraway,
allspice, eg).

-sw

Reply from: notbob
Date: 13 May 2008, 17:58
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

On 2008-05-13, Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail,com post> wrote:
> spices that a M&P won't be able to grind correctly (caraway,
> allspice, eg).

That's cuz you got wussy M&P. Mere child's play for Thai granite!

nb

Reply from: Sqwertz
Date: 13 May 2008, 18:15
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

notbob <notbob@nothome,com > wrote:

> On 2008-05-13, Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail,com post> wrote:
>> spices that a M&P won't be able to grind correctly (caraway,
>> allspice, eg).
>
> That's cuz you got wussy M&P. Mere child's play for Thai granite!

I have a perfectly good 8x8 M&P. The coffee grinder works better
for almost all the dry spices.

-sw

Reply from: Sqwertz
Date: 13 May 2008, 18:44
Re: Grinding Bay Leaves

Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail,com post> wrote:

> I have a perfectly good 8x8 M&P. The coffee grinder works better
> for almost all the dry spices.

I left out the word 'granite' just to see if I could provoke another
He-Man response out of you.

-sw


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