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Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
"St. Louis residents have grown accustomed to seeing local corporations gobbled up by outside firms. But losing Anheuser-Busch could be the cruelest cut of all...
"Reports that the company might be purchased by brewer InBev of Belgium have residents worried they might lose a company as closely identified with St. Louis as the iconic Gateway Arch..."
Associated Press article: http :// easyurl,net /KingOfBeers
"St. Louis residents have grown accustomed to seeing local corporations gobbled up by outside firms. But losing Anheuser-Busch could be the cruelest cut of all...
"Reports that the company might be purchased by brewer InBev of Belgium have residents worried they might lose a company as closely identified with St. Louis as the iconic Gateway Arch..."
Associated Press article: http :// easyurl,net /KingOfBeers
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
On May 30, 9:56 pm, ND <ram...@safe-mail,net > wrote:
> "St. Louis residents have grown accustomed to seeing local corporations gobbled up by outside firms. But losing Anheuser-Busch could be the cruelest cut of all...
>
> "Reports that the company might be purchased by brewer InBev of Belgium have residents worried they might lose a company as closely identified with St. Louis as the iconic Gateway Arch..."
>
> Associated Press article: http :// easyurl,net /KingOfBeers
crap happens! Rockingham, N.C. lost a 500 mile race event due
to pure greed!
On May 30, 9:56 pm, ND <ram...@safe-mail,net > wrote:
> "St. Louis residents have grown accustomed to seeing local corporations gobbled up by outside firms. But losing Anheuser-Busch could be the cruelest cut of all...
>
> "Reports that the company might be purchased by brewer InBev of Belgium have residents worried they might lose a company as closely identified with St. Louis as the iconic Gateway Arch..."
>
> Associated Press article: http :// easyurl,net /KingOfBeers
crap happens! Rockingham, N.C. lost a 500 mile race event due
to pure greed!
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
On May 30, 10:20 pm, Blue <bluescr...@alltel,net > wrote:
> On May 30, 9:56 pm, ND <ram...@safe-mail,net > wrote:
>
> > "St. Louis residents have grown accustomed to seeing local corporations gobbled up by outside firms. But losing Anheuser-Busch could be the cruelest cut of all...
>
> > "Reports that the company might be purchased by brewer InBev of Belgium have residents worried they might lose a company as closely identified with St. Louis as the iconic Gateway Arch..."
>
> > Associated Press article: http :// easyurl,net /KingOfBeers
>
> crap happens! Rockingham, N.C. lost a 500 mile race event due
> to pure greed!
The best beer though comes from Belgium and they maybe actually saving
the Brewery. The St Louis location is the oldest and first Busch
location. But I often wondered if someday they would move their main
headquarters somewhere else.
On May 30, 10:20 pm, Blue <bluescr...@alltel,net > wrote:
> On May 30, 9:56 pm, ND <ram...@safe-mail,net > wrote:
>
> > "St. Louis residents have grown accustomed to seeing local corporations gobbled up by outside firms. But losing Anheuser-Busch could be the cruelest cut of all...
>
> > "Reports that the company might be purchased by brewer InBev of Belgium have residents worried they might lose a company as closely identified with St. Louis as the iconic Gateway Arch..."
>
> > Associated Press article: http :// easyurl,net /KingOfBeers
>
> crap happens! Rockingham, N.C. lost a 500 mile race event due
> to pure greed!
The best beer though comes from Belgium and they maybe actually saving
the Brewery. The St Louis location is the oldest and first Busch
location. But I often wondered if someday they would move their main
headquarters somewhere else.
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
free.tuneup@gmail,com <free.tuneup@gmail,com > wrote:
> The best beer though comes from Belgium and they maybe
> actually saving the Brewery. The St Louis location is
> the oldest and first Busch location. But I often
> wondered if someday they would move their main
> headquarters somewhere else.
Belguim is the Valhalla for beer. IIRC a Belgium
company owns half of the Ommegang Brewery in
Cooperstown, NY.
If Busch is sold to a Belgium company, I foresee a
loss of some executive jobs in StL, but not a loss
of any jobs on the brewery floor. Bud's suppply
chain and its distribution network are vital to
maintaining its market share and they are all a
function of the StL brewery.
If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
them at the stake. ;)
Dick
free.tuneup@gmail,com <free.tuneup@gmail,com > wrote:
> The best beer though comes from Belgium and they maybe
> actually saving the Brewery. The St Louis location is
> the oldest and first Busch location. But I often
> wondered if someday they would move their main
> headquarters somewhere else.
Belguim is the Valhalla for beer. IIRC a Belgium
company owns half of the Ommegang Brewery in
Cooperstown, NY.
If Busch is sold to a Belgium company, I foresee a
loss of some executive jobs in StL, but not a loss
of any jobs on the brewery floor. Bud's suppply
chain and its distribution network are vital to
maintaining its market share and they are all a
function of the StL brewery.
If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
them at the stake. ;)
Dick
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
Dick Adams wrote:
> If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
> lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
> them at the stake. ;)
Um, there aren't many fires around the Stella Artois brewery (owned by
InBev, incidentally).
-Steve
Dick Adams wrote:
> If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
> lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
> them at the stake. ;)
Um, there aren't many fires around the Stella Artois brewery (owned by
InBev, incidentally).
-Steve
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
On May 31, 12:38 pm, Steve Jackson <stv.jack...@verizon,net > wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
> > If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
> > lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
> > them at the stake. ;)
>
> Um, there aren't many fires around the Stella Artois brewery (owned by
> InBev, incidentally).
>
> -Steve
However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium Trappist
Brewery. My knowledge came from the Trappistine nuns near by. (see
link below) Trappistine nuns from Belgium opened up an American
Monastery in Redwoods of Calf.
http :// www .whitebeertravels.co.uk/chimay.html
On May 31, 12:38 pm, Steve Jackson <stv.jack...@verizon,net > wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
> > If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
> > lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
> > them at the stake. ;)
>
> Um, there aren't many fires around the Stella Artois brewery (owned by
> InBev, incidentally).
>
> -Steve
However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium Trappist
Brewery. My knowledge came from the Trappistine nuns near by. (see
link below) Trappistine nuns from Belgium opened up an American
Monastery in Redwoods of Calf.
http :// www .whitebeertravels.co.uk/chimay.html
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
On 5/31/2008 11:12 AM free.tuneup@gmail,com ignored two million years of
human evolution to write:
> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium Trappist
> Brewery.
Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the Netherlands.
Their existences are hardly a secret, and beers from all except one of
them are available in the USA.
--
dgs
On 5/31/2008 11:12 AM free.tuneup@gmail,com ignored two million years of
human evolution to write:
> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium Trappist
> Brewery.
Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the Netherlands.
Their existences are hardly a secret, and beers from all except one of
them are available in the USA.
--
dgs
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
yd+yg+as wrote:
> On 5/31/2008 11:12 AM free.tuneup@gmail,com ignored two million years of
> human evolution to write:
>
>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium Trappist
>> Brewery.
>
> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the Netherlands.
> Their existences are hardly a secret, and beers from all except one of
> them are available in the USA.
Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. One, of
them, however, is not legally available.
-S
yd+yg+as wrote:
> On 5/31/2008 11:12 AM free.tuneup@gmail,com ignored two million years of
> human evolution to write:
>
>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium Trappist
>> Brewery.
>
> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the Netherlands.
> Their existences are hardly a secret, and beers from all except one of
> them are available in the USA.
Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. One, of
them, however, is not legally available.
-S
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
>>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>> Trappist Brewery.
>> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>> Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>> beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
> One of them, however, is not legally available.
I have purchased the following within the last year:
Chimay Grande Reserve
Rochefort 10
Westmalle Dubbel
Westvleteren 12
So the Monasteries in question:
Achelse Kluis
Orval
Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
So which one is not legally available? And why?
Dick
>>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>> Trappist Brewery.
>> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>> Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>> beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
> One of them, however, is not legally available.
I have purchased the following within the last year:
Chimay Grande Reserve
Rochefort 10
Westmalle Dubbel
Westvleteren 12
So the Monasteries in question:
Achelse Kluis
Orval
Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
So which one is not legally available? And why?
Dick
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
"Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix,com > schreef in bericht
news:g1tmrn$qe9$1@reader2.panix,com ...
>>>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>>> Trappist Brewery.
>
>>> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>>> Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>>> beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
>
> Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
>> One of them, however, is not legally available.
>
> I have purchased the following within the last year:
> Chimay Grande Reserve
> Rochefort 10
> Westmalle Dubbel
> Westvleteren 12
>
> So the Monasteries in question:
> Achelse Kluis
> Orval
> Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
>
> So which one is not legally available? And why?
>
Your Westvleteren 12 ought to have been perfectly illegal - at least at one
stage, because:
1° Westvleteren abbey explicitely refuses to export
2° Every customer has to declare (on the bill) that he will refrain from any
second sale of the purchased goods.
So, the only legal way for a non-resident of Belgium to obtain a
Westvleteren, is to make an appointment with the abbey, and purchase himself
the goods. Any subsequent sale being out of the question, of course.
"Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix,com > schreef in bericht
news:g1tmrn$qe9$1@reader2.panix,com ...
>>>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>>> Trappist Brewery.
>
>>> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>>> Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>>> beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
>
> Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
>> One of them, however, is not legally available.
>
> I have purchased the following within the last year:
> Chimay Grande Reserve
> Rochefort 10
> Westmalle Dubbel
> Westvleteren 12
>
> So the Monasteries in question:
> Achelse Kluis
> Orval
> Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
>
> So which one is not legally available? And why?
>
Your Westvleteren 12 ought to have been perfectly illegal - at least at one
stage, because:
1° Westvleteren abbey explicitely refuses to export
2° Every customer has to declare (on the bill) that he will refrain from any
second sale of the purchased goods.
So, the only legal way for a non-resident of Belgium to obtain a
Westvleteren, is to make an appointment with the abbey, and purchase himself
the goods. Any subsequent sale being out of the question, of course.
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
Joris Pattyn wrote:
> "Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix,com > schreef in bericht
> news:g1tmrn$qe9$1@reader2.panix,com ...
>
>>>>>However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>>>>Trappist Brewery.
>>
>>>>Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>>>>Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>>>>beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
>>
>>Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
>>
>>>One of them, however, is not legally available.
>>
>>I have purchased the following within the last year:
>> Chimay Grande Reserve
>> Rochefort 10
>> Westmalle Dubbel
>> Westvleteren 12
>>
>>So the Monasteries in question:
>> Achelse Kluis
>> Orval
>> Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
>>
>>So which one is not legally available? And why?
>>
>
>
> Your Westvleteren 12 ought to have been perfectly illegal - at least at one
> stage, because:
> 1° Westvleteren abbey explicitely refuses to export
> 2° Every customer has to declare (on the bill) that he will refrain from any
> second sale of the purchased goods.
>
> So, the only legal way for a non-resident of Belgium to obtain a
> Westvleteren, is to make an appointment with the abbey, and purchase himself
> the goods. Any subsequent sale being out of the question, of course.
Could you give it away, as a present?
Or give it to anyone who bought one of your (strangely overpriced)
bottle openers? -Eric
Joris Pattyn wrote:
> "Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix,com > schreef in bericht
> news:g1tmrn$qe9$1@reader2.panix,com ...
>
>>>>>However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>>>>Trappist Brewery.
>>
>>>>Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>>>>Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>>>>beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
>>
>>Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
>>
>>>One of them, however, is not legally available.
>>
>>I have purchased the following within the last year:
>> Chimay Grande Reserve
>> Rochefort 10
>> Westmalle Dubbel
>> Westvleteren 12
>>
>>So the Monasteries in question:
>> Achelse Kluis
>> Orval
>> Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
>>
>>So which one is not legally available? And why?
>>
>
>
> Your Westvleteren 12 ought to have been perfectly illegal - at least at one
> stage, because:
> 1° Westvleteren abbey explicitely refuses to export
> 2° Every customer has to declare (on the bill) that he will refrain from any
> second sale of the purchased goods.
>
> So, the only legal way for a non-resident of Belgium to obtain a
> Westvleteren, is to make an appointment with the abbey, and purchase himself
> the goods. Any subsequent sale being out of the question, of course.
Could you give it away, as a present?
Or give it to anyone who bought one of your (strangely overpriced)
bottle openers? -Eric
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
"Joris Pattyn" <Joris.Pattyn@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:wQx0k.74098$x55.64085@newsfe17.ams2...
>
> "Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix,com > schreef in bericht
> news:g1tmrn$qe9$1@reader2.panix,com ...
>>>>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>>>> Trappist Brewery.
>>
>>>> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>>>> Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>>>> beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
>>
>> Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
>>> One of them, however, is not legally available.
>>
>> I have purchased the following within the last year:
>> Chimay Grande Reserve
>> Rochefort 10
>> Westmalle Dubbel
>> Westvleteren 12
>>
>> So the Monasteries in question:
>> Achelse Kluis
>> Orval
>> Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
>>
>> So which one is not legally available? And why?
>>
>
> Your Westvleteren 12 ought to have been perfectly illegal - at least at
> one stage, because:
> 1° Westvleteren abbey explicitely refuses to export
> 2° Every customer has to declare (on the bill) that he will refrain from
> any second sale of the purchased goods.
>
> So, the only legal way for a non-resident of Belgium to obtain a
> Westvleteren, is to make an appointment with the abbey, and purchase
> himself the goods. Any subsequent sale being out of the question, of
> course.
The Belgian Shop is the biggest culprit.(that's how I got my 6 bottles of 12
and 4 of the 8) They, a company based in Belgium, obviously don't respect
the wishes of the Abbey and sell the beers *online* for delivery to just
about anywhere in the world, so how can we, the consumers of fine beer,
resist the temptation? ;^)
Btw, I traded away 7 of the bottles I bought.
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"Joris Pattyn" <Joris.Pattyn@pandora.be> wrote in message
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>
> "Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix,com > schreef in bericht
> news:g1tmrn$qe9$1@reader2.panix,com ...
>>>>> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the Belgium
>>>>> Trappist Brewery.
>>
>>>> Dunno why. There are six of them, plus a seventh in the
>>>> Netherlands. Their existences are hardly a secret, and
>>>> beers from all except one of them are available in the USA.
>>
>> Quibble: Beers from all of them are available in the States. On
>>> One of them, however, is not legally available.
>>
>> I have purchased the following within the last year:
>> Chimay Grande Reserve
>> Rochefort 10
>> Westmalle Dubbel
>> Westvleteren 12
>>
>> So the Monasteries in question:
>> Achelse Kluis
>> Orval
>> Koningshoeven (Netherlands)
>>
>> So which one is not legally available? And why?
>>
>
> Your Westvleteren 12 ought to have been perfectly illegal - at least at
> one stage, because:
> 1° Westvleteren abbey explicitely refuses to export
> 2° Every customer has to declare (on the bill) that he will refrain from
> any second sale of the purchased goods.
>
> So, the only legal way for a non-resident of Belgium to obtain a
> Westvleteren, is to make an appointment with the abbey, and purchase
> himself the goods. Any subsequent sale being out of the question, of
> course.
The Belgian Shop is the biggest culprit.(that's how I got my 6 bottles of 12
and 4 of the 8) They, a company based in Belgium, obviously don't respect
the wishes of the Abbey and sell the beers *online* for delivery to just
about anywhere in the world, so how can we, the consumers of fine beer,
resist the temptation? ;^)
Btw, I traded away 7 of the bottles I bought.
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Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
>
> Btw, I traded away 7 of the bottles I bought.
>
What for? A crate of Romanée Conti? ;^}
>
> Btw, I traded away 7 of the bottles I bought.
>
What for? A crate of Romanée Conti? ;^}
Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
"Joris Pattyn" <Joris.Pattyn@pandora.be> wrote in message
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> >
>> Btw, I traded away 7 of the bottles I bought.
>>
>
> What for? A crate of Romanée Conti? ;^}
>
Dammit, I had to Google that! lol
IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, I traded them for local brews of the people
I traded with.
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> >
>> Btw, I traded away 7 of the bottles I bought.
>>
>
> What for? A crate of Romanée Conti? ;^}
>
Dammit, I had to Google that! lol
IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, I traded them for local brews of the people
I traded with.
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Re: Will St. Louis lose the King of Beers?
free.tuneup@gmail,com <free.tuneup@gmail,com > wrote:
> Steve Jackson <stv.jack...@verizon,net > wrote:
>> Dick Adams wrote:
>>> If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
>>> lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
>>> them at the stake. ;)
>> Um, there aren't many fires around the Stella Artois
>> brewery (owned by InBev, incidentally).
> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the
> Belgium Trappist Brewery.
Why be impressed by common knowledge?
> My knowledge came from the Trappistine nuns near by.
> (see link below) Trappistine nuns from Belgium
> opened up an American Monastery in Redwoods of Calf.
I believe he Trappistine nuns make candies, not beer.
> http :// www .whitebeertravels.co.uk/chimay.html
I didn't notice anything about nuns in the above
link
Dick
free.tuneup@gmail,com <free.tuneup@gmail,com > wrote:
> Steve Jackson <stv.jack...@verizon,net > wrote:
>> Dick Adams wrote:
>>> If the Belgians started brewing Industrial Light
>>> lagers in Belgium, the Trappist Monks would burn
>>> them at the stake. ;)
>> Um, there aren't many fires around the Stella Artois
>> brewery (owned by InBev, incidentally).
> However I am impressed that Dick knew about the
> Belgium Trappist Brewery.
Why be impressed by common knowledge?
> My knowledge came from the Trappistine nuns near by.
> (see link below) Trappistine nuns from Belgium
> opened up an American Monastery in Redwoods of Calf.
I believe he Trappistine nuns make candies, not beer.
> http :// www .whitebeertravels.co.uk/chimay.html
I didn't notice anything about nuns in the above
link
Dick
