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A "pint" of beer

Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 22:15
A "pint" of beer

Hello All!

I just read an article in a popular science magazine from Britain,
"Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats a cool, crisp pint
of beer on a hot summer's day". I thoroughly agree with that sentiment
but the article was illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz
bottle. Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it
commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that the use of
"pint" for a glassful is common in Ireland too and I'm aware that the
British and American fl ozs are very slightly different.

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: Corey Richardson
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 22:30
Re: A "pint" of beer

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:15:03 -0400, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote:

>Hello All!
>
>I just read an article in a popular science magazine from Britain,
>"Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats a cool, crisp pint
>of beer on a hot summer's day". I thoroughly agree with that sentiment
>but the article was illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz
>bottle. Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it
>commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that the use of
>"pint" for a glassful is common in Ireland too and I'm aware that the
>British and American fl ozs are very slightly different.

A pint bottle of beer is now 568 ml in the UK. I don't think I've ever
seen it in ounces.


Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 22:39
Re: A "pint" of beer

Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:30:32 +0100:

>> Hello All!
>>
>> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from
>> Britain, "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats
>> a cool, crisp pint of beer on a hot summer's day". I
>> thoroughly agree with that sentiment but the article was
>> illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle. Is
>> "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it
>> commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that
>> the use of "pint" for a glassful is common in Ireland too and
>> I'm aware that the British and American fl ozs are very
>> slightly different.


>A pint bottle of beer is now 568 ml in the UK. I don't think
> I've ever seen it in ounces.

.

OK, to rephrase my question some, are 568ml (or near that value)
*bottles* of beer common in Britain? It does not change my question
really since 568ml is 19.99 floz (British).

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: Corey Richardson
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 22:43
Re: A "pint" of beer

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:39:06 -0400, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote:

> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:30:32 +0100:
>
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from
>>> Britain, "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats
>>> a cool, crisp pint of beer on a hot summer's day". I
>>> thoroughly agree with that sentiment but the article was
>>> illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle. Is
>>> "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it
>>> commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that
>>> the use of "pint" for a glassful is common in Ireland too and
>>> I'm aware that the British and American fl ozs are very
>>> slightly different.
>
>
>>A pint bottle of beer is now 568 ml in the UK. I don't think
>> I've ever seen it in ounces.
>
>.
>
>OK, to rephrase my question some, are 568ml (or near that value)
>*bottles* of beer common in Britain? It does not change my question
>really since 568ml is 19.99 floz (British).

Yes, 568ml (AKA 1 pint) bottles of beer are very common in Britain.


Reply from: Corey Richardson
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 22:49
Re: A "pint" of beer

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:43:40 +0100, Corey Richardson
<C.Richardson@bugmenot,com > wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:39:06 -0400, "James Silverton"
><not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote:
>
>> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:30:32 +0100:
>>
>>>> Hello All!
>>>>
>>>> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from
>>>> Britain, "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats
>>>> a cool, crisp pint of beer on a hot summer's day". I
>>>> thoroughly agree with that sentiment but the article was
>>>> illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle. Is
>>>> "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it
>>>> commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that
>>>> the use of "pint" for a glassful is common in Ireland too and
>>>> I'm aware that the British and American fl ozs are very
>>>> slightly different.
>>
>>
>>>A pint bottle of beer is now 568 ml in the UK. I don't think
>>> I've ever seen it in ounces.
>>
>>.
>>
>>OK, to rephrase my question some, are 568ml (or near that value)
>>*bottles* of beer common in Britain? It does not change my question
>>really since 568ml is 19.99 floz (British).
>
>Yes, 568ml (AKA 1 pint) bottles of beer are very common in Britain.

Sorry for the follow-up.

I should have said that although you do get true 1 pint bottles of beer,
500ml bottles are increasingly common, although not regarded as a pint.


Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 23:13
Re: A "pint" of beer

Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:49:22 +0100:

>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:39:06 -0400, "James Silverton"
>> <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote:
>>
>>> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:30:32 +0100:
>>>
>>>>> Hello All!
>>>>>
>>>>> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from
>>>>> Britain, "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little
>>>>> beats a cool, crisp pint of beer on a hot summer's day". I
>>>>> thoroughly agree with that sentiment but the article was
>>>>> illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle.
>>>>> Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or
>>>>> does it commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I
>>>>> suspect that the use of "pint" for a glassful is common in
>>>>> Ireland too and I'm aware that the British and American fl
>>>>> ozs are very slightly different.
>>>
>>>> A pint bottle of beer is now 568 ml in the UK. I don't
>>>> think I've ever seen it in ounces.
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> OK, to rephrase my question some, are 568ml (or near that
>>> value) *bottles* of beer common in Britain? It does not
>>> change my question really since 568ml is 19.99 floz
>>> (British).
>>
>> Yes, 568ml (AKA 1 pint) bottles of beer are very common in
>> Britain.

> Sorry for the follow-up. I should have said that although you
> do get true 1 pint bottles of beer,500ml bottles are increasingly
> common, although not regarded as a pint.
.
Interesting, you don't actually call 500ml a pint then? I must look
closely next time I buy something like Samuel Smith's etc.

I suppose it would have been too much to hope for that bottles could
have been rounded *up* but I've seen 300ml and 330ml bottles from
continental Europe when 341ml would have closer to 12 floz (US).

To complicate the picture, Guinness, Bass., McEwan's etc. come in 12 fl
oz (US) bottles but European brews bottled in Canada came in 11.5 fl
oz(US) bottles which is pretty close to 12 fl oz (British). I could
enthusiastically go metric but, at least, the old US Fifth is only
slightly larger than the standard 750ml wine bottle.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: yeadeagisss
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 23:58
Re: A "pint" of beer

James Silverton wrote:

> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:49:22 +0100:
>
>>> Yes, 568ml (AKA 1 pint) bottles of beer are very common in
>>> Britain.
>
>> Sorry for the follow-up. I should have said that although you
>> do get true 1 pint bottles of beer,500ml bottles are increasingly
>> common, although not regarded as a pint.
>
> .
> Interesting, you don't actually call 500ml a pint then?

In the UK, 500ml is called a half-litre. Never a pint. It's illegal
to call 500ml a pint, 'cause ... it isn't a pint.

> I suppose it would have been too much to hope for that bottles could
> have been rounded *up* but I've seen 300ml and 330ml bottles from
> continental Europe when 341ml would have closer to 12 floz (US).

Continental European beverage makers aren't obliged to respect US size
standards, and 330ml is a common size in packaged beverages in Europe.


Reply from: Corey Richardson
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 00:03
Re: A "pint" of beer

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:07 -0700, yeadeagisss
<dai/gea/isss/0nne/3hrree/zer0/zer0_@_geea/maiil.c0mx> wrote:

>James Silverton wrote:
>
>> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:49:22 +0100:
>>
>>>> Yes, 568ml (AKA 1 pint) bottles of beer are very common in
>>>> Britain.
>>
>>> Sorry for the follow-up. I should have said that although you
>>> do get true 1 pint bottles of beer,500ml bottles are increasingly
>>> common, although not regarded as a pint.
>>
>> .
>> Interesting, you don't actually call 500ml a pint then?
>
>In the UK, 500ml is called a half-litre. Never a pint. It's illegal
>to call 500ml a pint, 'cause ... it isn't a pint.
>
>> I suppose it would have been too much to hope for that bottles could
>> have been rounded *up* but I've seen 300ml and 330ml bottles from
>> continental Europe when 341ml would have closer to 12 floz (US).
>
>Continental European beverage makers aren't obliged to respect US size
>standards, and 330ml is a common size in packaged beverages in Europe.

I've always wondered why 330ml is as common as it is. Any idea why?


Reply from: yeadeagisss
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 00:22
Re: A "pint" of beer

Corey Richardson wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:07 -0700, yeadeagisss
> <dai/gea/isss/0nne/3hrree/zer0/zer0_@_geea/maiil.c0mx> wrote:
>
>>Continental European beverage makers aren't obliged to respect US size
>>standards, and 330ml is a common size in packaged beverages in Europe.
>
>
> I've always wondered why 330ml is as common as it is. Any idea why?

It's as close to one-third of a litre as is practical to produce and
market. I suppose the manufacturers could have introduced 333ml cans,
but 330ml is an easy-to-remember 33cl, so there it is.

Reply from: Corey Richardson
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 00:27
Re: A "pint" of beer

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:22:57 -0700, yeadeagisss
<dai/gea/isss/0nne/3hrree/zer0/zer0_@_geea/maiil.c0mx> wrote:

>Corey Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:07 -0700, yeadeagisss
>> <dai/gea/isss/0nne/3hrree/zer0/zer0_@_geea/maiil.c0mx> wrote:
>>
>>>Continental European beverage makers aren't obliged to respect US size
>>>standards, and 330ml is a common size in packaged beverages in Europe.
>>
>>
>> I've always wondered why 330ml is as common as it is. Any idea why?
>
>It's as close to one-third of a litre as is practical to produce and
>market. I suppose the manufacturers could have introduced 333ml cans,
>but 330ml is an easy-to-remember 33cl, so there it is.

I never thought of that. Makes sense I suppose. But what about those
275ml bottles?


Reply from: Bill Becker
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 01:01
Re: A "pint" of beer


"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote in message
news:g7sue8$ivs$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:49:22 +0100:
>
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:39:06 -0400, "James Silverton"
>>> <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Corey wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:30:32 +0100:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from
>>>>>> Britain, "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little
>>>>>> beats a cool, crisp pint of beer on a hot summer's day". I
>>>>>> thoroughly agree with that sentiment but the article was
>>>>>> illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle.
>>>>>> Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or
>>>>>> does it commonly come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I
>>>>>> suspect that the use of "pint" for a glassful is common in
>>>>>> Ireland too and I'm aware that the British and American fl
>>>>>> ozs are very slightly different.
>>>>
>>>>> A pint bottle of beer is now 568 ml in the UK. I don't
>>>>> think I've ever seen it in ounces.
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> OK, to rephrase my question some, are 568ml (or near that
>>>> value) *bottles* of beer common in Britain? It does not
>>>> change my question really since 568ml is 19.99 floz
>>>> (British).
>>>
>>> Yes, 568ml (AKA 1 pint) bottles of beer are very common in
>>> Britain.
>
>> Sorry for the follow-up. I should have said that although you
>> do get true 1 pint bottles of beer,500ml bottles are increasingly
>> common, although not regarded as a pint.
> .
> Interesting, you don't actually call 500ml a pint then? I must look
> closely next time I buy something like Samuel Smith's etc.
>

I have a Nut Brown bottle here and it's 550ml which must be 1.3oz short of a
pint.





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Reply from: Graham
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 22:59
Re: A "pint" of beer


"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote in message
news:g7sr07$hc1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Hello All!
>
> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from Britain,
> "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats a cool, crisp pint of
> beer on a hot summer's day". I thoroughly agree with that sentiment but
> the article was illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle.
> Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it commonly
> come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that the use of "pint" for
> a glassful is common in Ireland too and I'm aware that the British and
> American fl ozs are very slightly different.
>
> --
I think that when you "go for a pint" it is not only 20floz but it also
tends to imply that it will be draught beer.
Here, in Calgary, a pint is sometimes the Imp 20floz but some bars use the
US 16floz pint glasses.
Graham



Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 12 Aug 2008, 23:03
Re: A "pint" of beer

Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote in message
> news:g7sr07$hc1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Hello All!
> >
> > I just read an article in a popular science magazine from Britain,
> > "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats a cool, crisp pint of
> > beer on a hot summer's day". I thoroughly agree with that sentiment but
> > the article was illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle.
> > Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it commonly
> > come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that the use of "pint" for
> > a glassful is common in Ireland too and I'm aware that the British and
> > American fl ozs are very slightly different.
> >
> > --
> I think that when you "go for a pint" it is not only 20floz but it also
> tends to imply that it will be draught beer.
> Here, in Calgary, a pint is sometimes the Imp 20floz but some bars use the
> US 16floz pint glasses.
> Graham

A pint here is a pint (British pint)- no exception. Indeed, if it's
draught beer, you'll be liable to prosecution if you serve it in, say, a
half litre glass. There was such a case in the news recently.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www .davidhorne,net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: Phil Cook
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 16:53
Re: A "pint" of beer

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:

>Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote in message
>> news:g7sr07$hc1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> > Hello All!
>> >
>> > I just read an article in a popular science magazine from Britain,
>> > "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little beats a cool, crisp pint of
>> > beer on a hot summer's day". I thoroughly agree with that sentiment but
>> > the article was illustrated by a picture of beer in the usual 12oz bottle.
>> > Is "pint" just a name for a glass of beer in Britain or does it commonly
>> > come in 20oz (British pint) bottles? I suspect that the use of "pint" for
>> > a glassful is common in Ireland too and I'm aware that the British and
>> > American fl ozs are very slightly different.
>> >
>> > --
>> I think that when you "go for a pint" it is not only 20floz but it also
>> tends to imply that it will be draught beer.
>> Here, in Calgary, a pint is sometimes the Imp 20floz but some bars use the
>> US 16floz pint glasses.
>> Graham
>
>A pint here is a pint (British pint)- no exception. Indeed, if it's
>draught beer, you'll be liable to prosecution if you serve it in, say, a
>half litre glass. There was such a case in the news recently.

When you buy a pint (or a half) in a public house in the UK you
typically get it in a brim measure glass which has a crown marked on
it to show it complies with the weights and measures act. By custom a
pint is said to be the beer and any head on it. You can and should ask
for your drink to be topped up if you feel there is too much head on
it. Some establishments use metered dispense systems that give a pint
of liquid into unmarked glasses and some use lined glasses to serve a
pint of liquid. These are often irked when you ask them to "top it up
please." Indeed one of the major pub chains (Wetherspoons) attempted
to force a change on the whole industry by running a big trial of
lined glasses and gave up because of the constant requests of, "top it
up please." Given the cost of new glasses across the whole industry
you can perhaps see why the other chains and independents dragged
their heels on this. What it really needed was top down measure
(sorry) from the government so that a pint was a pint of beer.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 17:11
Re: A "pint" of beer

Phil wrote on Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:53:42 +0100:

>> Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon,net > wrote in
>>> message news:g7sr07$hc1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> >> Hello All!
>> >>
>> >> I just read an article in a popular science magazine from
>> >> Britain, "Chemistry World", where it was stated "Little
>> >> beats a cool, crisp pint of beer on a hot summer's day". I
>> >> --
>>> I think that when you "go for a pint" it is not only 20floz
>>> but it also tends to imply that it will be draught
>>> beer. Here, in Calgary, a pint is sometimes the Imp 20floz
>>> but some bars use the US 16floz pint glasses. Graham
>>
>> A pint here is a pint (British pint)- no exception. Indeed,
>> if it's draught beer, you'll be liable to prosecution if you
>> serve it in, say, a half litre glass. There was such a case
>> in the news recently.

>When you buy a pint (or a half) in a public house in the UK
>youtypically get it in a brim measure glass which has a crown
> marked on it to show it complies with the weights and
> measures act. By custom a pint is said to be the beer
> and any head on it.

Is the glass marking the same in Scotland? I seem to remember the top of
the glass being the legal measure: no sucking in the foam thro' your
mustache :-)


--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not



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