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Braising in a stockpot
I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
the fond.)
The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
taller. Think that will make any difference?
Thanks in advance.
I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
the fond.)
The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
taller. Think that will make any difference?
Thanks in advance.
Re: Braising in a stockpot
dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
I can't see what difference it's make with a braise.
--
Steve
dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
I can't see what difference it's make with a braise.
--
Steve
Re: Braising in a stockpot
dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
DRINK THE BAROLO !!!
Braise with something red from a box. Several hours of heat won't make
great wine better.
dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
DRINK THE BAROLO !!!
Braise with something red from a box. Several hours of heat won't make
great wine better.
Re: Braising in a stockpot
"Will" <waller.william@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:1164987783.191000.261970@80g2000cwy.googlegroups,com ...
>
> dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
>> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
>> the fond.)
>>
>> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
>> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> DRINK THE BAROLO !!!
>
> Braise with something red from a box. Several hours of heat won't make
> great wine better.
>
>
I couldn't agree MORE!! Drink the Barolo. We braise quite a lot,
particularly Boeuf Bourguignon. The cookbooks say cook the dish with the
wine you are going to drink!! A good burgundy costs about $50/bottle.
Barolo costs almost that much. You can create a great braised meat dish with
all sorts of red wines that approach Barolo, even two buck chuck at Trader
Joes.
I can't imagine not braising something in a nonstick. Anyone with thoughts
about that would be most appreciated.
Kent
"Will" <waller.william@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:1164987783.191000.261970@80g2000cwy.googlegroups,com ...
>
> dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
>> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
>> the fond.)
>>
>> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
>> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> DRINK THE BAROLO !!!
>
> Braise with something red from a box. Several hours of heat won't make
> great wine better.
>
>
I couldn't agree MORE!! Drink the Barolo. We braise quite a lot,
particularly Boeuf Bourguignon. The cookbooks say cook the dish with the
wine you are going to drink!! A good burgundy costs about $50/bottle.
Barolo costs almost that much. You can create a great braised meat dish with
all sorts of red wines that approach Barolo, even two buck chuck at Trader
Joes.
I can't imagine not braising something in a nonstick. Anyone with thoughts
about that would be most appreciated.
Kent
Re: Braising in a stockpot
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:07:47 -0800, "Kent" <kh6444@comcast,net > wrote:
>> dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>>> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>>> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
>>> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
>>> the fond.)
>
>I can't imagine not braising something in a nonstick. Anyone with thoughts
>about that would be most appreciated.
As the OP wrote, if you don't brown the meat and the sofrito first in a pan that
will encourage fond, you're sacrificing a tremendous amount of flavor. Which
type you do the further braising in doesn't matter.
-- Larry
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:07:47 -0800, "Kent" <kh6444@comcast,net > wrote:
>> dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>>> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>>> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
>>> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
>>> the fond.)
>
>I can't imagine not braising something in a nonstick. Anyone with thoughts
>about that would be most appreciated.
As the OP wrote, if you don't brown the meat and the sofrito first in a pan that
will encourage fond, you're sacrificing a tremendous amount of flavor. Which
type you do the further braising in doesn't matter.
-- Larry
Re: Braising in a stockpot
<dh7132@comcast,net > wrote in message
news:toi0n2l7th2tdvfm2u3rt13qmbdi6b9sia@4ax,com ...
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
In a nutshell, braising works by the liquid that accumulates on the
underside of the lid dripping back onto the roast. The taller pot could
reduce the effectiveness of this due to the additional space between the
roast and the lid. But, if your stockpot lid is rounded (helps with the
dripping), and the stockpot is fairly full, I don't think you'll have
problem. I think it will turn out great no matter which pot you use, but it
may end up being more "stewed" than braised in the stockpot.
Just my $.02 cents.
Sharon
<dh7132@comcast,net > wrote in message
news:toi0n2l7th2tdvfm2u3rt13qmbdi6b9sia@4ax,com ...
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
In a nutshell, braising works by the liquid that accumulates on the
underside of the lid dripping back onto the roast. The taller pot could
reduce the effectiveness of this due to the additional space between the
roast and the lid. But, if your stockpot lid is rounded (helps with the
dripping), and the stockpot is fairly full, I don't think you'll have
problem. I think it will turn out great no matter which pot you use, but it
may end up being more "stewed" than braised in the stockpot.
Just my $.02 cents.
Sharon
Re: Braising in a stockpot
If the stock pot won't fit in your oven, it *will* make a difference!
:-)
If it were me, I'd stick with the dutch oven. Oven temperatures can
vary quite a bit from top to bottom of the oven space, and it just seems
like a squatty dutch oven sitting in the middle of the oven has a better
chance of staying at a more constant temperature as the heat source
cycles on and off.
I'd go ahead and brown the beef in the dutch oven as well, but that's
just me. It's more cleanup, but you could brown the beef in some other
pan then transfer it to the dutch oven and deglaze the browning pan with
some of the wine. (I'm not familiar with the recipe, but I'm guessing
that most of the wine is added before everything goes into the oven.)
Whatever you wind up doing, it sounds good!
Bob
=====================In article <toi0n2l7th2tdvfm2u3rt13qmbdi6b9sia@4ax,com >, dh7132
@comcast,net says...
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
If the stock pot won't fit in your oven, it *will* make a difference!
:-)
If it were me, I'd stick with the dutch oven. Oven temperatures can
vary quite a bit from top to bottom of the oven space, and it just seems
like a squatty dutch oven sitting in the middle of the oven has a better
chance of staying at a more constant temperature as the heat source
cycles on and off.
I'd go ahead and brown the beef in the dutch oven as well, but that's
just me. It's more cleanup, but you could brown the beef in some other
pan then transfer it to the dutch oven and deglaze the browning pan with
some of the wine. (I'm not familiar with the recipe, but I'm guessing
that most of the wine is added before everything goes into the oven.)
Whatever you wind up doing, it sounds good!
Bob
=====================In article <toi0n2l7th2tdvfm2u3rt13qmbdi6b9sia@4ax,com >, dh7132
@comcast,net says...
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
Re: Braising in a stockpot
yetanotherBob wrote:
> If the stock pot won't fit in your oven, it *will* make a difference!
> :-)
I just "assumed" that OP meant that it was going to be done
on the stovetop... silly me.
--
Steve
yetanotherBob wrote:
> If the stock pot won't fit in your oven, it *will* make a difference!
> :-)
I just "assumed" that OP meant that it was going to be done
on the stovetop... silly me.
--
Steve
Re: Braising in a stockpot
In article <dYZbh.28$Tl1.9@newsfe12.lga>, calvins@optonline,net says...
> > If the stock pot won't fit in your oven, it *will* make a difference!
> > :-)
>
> I just "assumed" that OP meant that it was going to be done
> on the stovetop... silly me.
>
OK, and I just "assumed" that the OP meant that it would be done in the
oven. Silly me, too!
For some reason I always picture something that's being "braised" as
cooking in the oven, while something that's being "stewed" cooks on top
of the stove or in a slow cooker. The terms may indeed be inter-
changeable (?).
I guess both terms cover a lot of territory, with the "slow cooking in
liquid" part being key, vs. the heat source.
Bob
In article <dYZbh.28$Tl1.9@newsfe12.lga>, calvins@optonline,net says...
> > If the stock pot won't fit in your oven, it *will* make a difference!
> > :-)
>
> I just "assumed" that OP meant that it was going to be done
> on the stovetop... silly me.
>
OK, and I just "assumed" that the OP meant that it would be done in the
oven. Silly me, too!
For some reason I always picture something that's being "braised" as
cooking in the oven, while something that's being "stewed" cooks on top
of the stove or in a slow cooker. The terms may indeed be inter-
changeable (?).
I guess both terms cover a lot of territory, with the "slow cooking in
liquid" part being key, vs. the heat source.
Bob
Re: Braising in a stockpot
Thanks to all.
I think I need to think on this one a while.
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:33:00 -0500, dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>Kitchen.
Thanks to all.
I think I need to think on this one a while.
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:33:00 -0500, dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>Kitchen.
Re: Braising in a stockpot
On Dec 1, 7:33 am, dh7...@comcast,net wrote:
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
As long as the lid is on, I can't see why it would make a difference.
Lid off, the liquid would reduce faster in the pot with the larger
opening.
On Dec 1, 7:33 am, dh7...@comcast,net wrote:
> I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
> Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
> stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
> the fond.)
>
> The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
> taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
> Thanks in advance.
As long as the lid is on, I can't see why it would make a difference.
Lid off, the liquid would reduce faster in the pot with the larger
opening.
Re: Braising in a stockpot
To follow up:
I made the Beef and Barolo in a 10 quart stainless, not non-stick,
stock pot with aluminum disk. It worked great and the beef was
delicious. All in attendance agreed.
Thanks to all who replied.
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:33:00 -0500, dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
>stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
>the fond.)
>
>The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
>taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
>Thanks in advance.
To follow up:
I made the Beef and Barolo in a 10 quart stainless, not non-stick,
stock pot with aluminum disk. It worked great and the beef was
delicious. All in attendance agreed.
Thanks to all who replied.
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:33:00 -0500, dh7132@comcast,net wrote:
>I'm going to make Beef Braised in Barolo that I saw on America's Test
>Kitchen. My dutch oven is non-stick so I'm thinking of using my
>stockpot (has a much heavier base and is not non-stick; I'ts all about
>the fond.)
>
>The only difference I can imagine is that the stock pot is much
>taller. Think that will make any difference?
>
>Thanks in advance.
