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Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

Reply from: Zarky Zork
Date: 20 Jan 2007, 00:59
Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

Hi, will a scoop of Bar Keepers Friend powder in the dishwasher along with
detergent get stains off stainless steel? Can it harm the dishwasher?

Thx



Reply from: Peter A
Date: 20 Jan 2007, 02:16
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

In article <VXcsh.17487$ZT3.6748@newssvr19.news.prodigy,com >,
zorkyzork@bonkaloo,net says...
> Hi, will a scoop of Bar Keepers Friend powder in the dishwasher along with
> detergent get stains off stainless steel? Can it harm the dishwasher?
>
> Thx
>
>
>

No and maybe. BKF is a very fine abrasive and it requires some elbow
grease to work. Whether it harms a DW I don't know, but some things just
require a little effort.

--
Peter Aitken

Reply from: Blair P. Houghton
Date: 21 Jan 2007, 02:34
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

Peter A <paitken@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
>In article <VXcsh.17487$ZT3.6748@newssvr19.news.prodigy,com >,
>zorkyzork@bonkaloo,net says...
>> Hi, will a scoop of Bar Keepers Friend powder in the dishwasher along with
>> detergent get stains off stainless steel? Can it harm the dishwasher?
>
>No and maybe. BKF is a very fine abrasive and it requires some elbow
>grease to work.

No, BKF contains oxalic acid and requires coating and time
(and maybe repeat applications) to work.

I wouldn't use it as a scrubbing powder. A good
green scrubber pad and some Dawn will do for that.

Then when you're down to the stains, you make a paste of
BKF and wipe that around, let it dry, then rinse it off.

Shiny like new.

But I wouldn't expect it to work well when it's diluted
as much as it would be in a dishwasher, and rinses itself
off rather than being slathered on.

>Whether it harms a DW I don't know, but some things just
>require a little effort.

--Blair

Reply from: Peter A
Date: 21 Jan 2007, 02:44
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

In article <xqzsh.121983$8H2.12507@fe02.news.easynews,com >, b@p.h
says...
> No, BKF contains oxalic acid and requires coating and time
> (and maybe repeat applications) to work.
>
> I wouldn't use it as a scrubbing powder. A good
> green scrubber pad and some Dawn will do for that.
>

If you read the BKF instructions you will see that you are wrong.

--
Peter Aitken

Reply from: Blair P. Houghton
Date: 21 Jan 2007, 19:01
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

Peter A <paitken@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
>In article <xqzsh.121983$8H2.12507@fe02.news.easynews,com >, b@p.h
>says...
>> No, BKF contains oxalic acid and requires coating and time
>> (and maybe repeat applications) to work.
>>
>> I wouldn't use it as a scrubbing powder. A good
>> green scrubber pad and some Dawn will do for that.
>
>If you read the BKF instructions you will see that you are wrong.

Scrubbing powders are for people who don't own green
scrubber pads.

I would not use BKF as a scrubbing powder.

But as a reducing agent for stainless steel, it is by far
the best thing I've ever used.

--Blair

Reply from: JoeSpareBedroom
Date: 21 Jan 2007, 21:34
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

"Blair P. Houghton" <b@p.h> wrote in message
news:xTNsh.546895$6O4.165006@fe09.news.easynews,com ...
> Peter A <paitken@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
>>In article <xqzsh.121983$8H2.12507@fe02.news.easynews,com >, b@p.h
>>says...
>>> No, BKF contains oxalic acid and requires coating and time
>>> (and maybe repeat applications) to work.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't use it as a scrubbing powder. A good
>>> green scrubber pad and some Dawn will do for that.
>>
>>If you read the BKF instructions you will see that you are wrong.
>
> Scrubbing powders are for people who don't own green
> scrubber pads.
>
> I would not use BKF as a scrubbing powder.

That's nice, but the design and intent of the product is (drum roll,
please) - scrubbing powder. Abrasive.



Reply from: sf
Date: 21 Jan 2007, 22:36
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:34:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<dishborealis@yahoo,com > wrote:

>"Blair P. Houghton" <b@p.h> wrote in message
>news:xTNsh.546895$6O4.165006@fe09.news.easynews,com ...
>> Peter A <paitken@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
>>>In article <xqzsh.121983$8H2.12507@fe02.news.easynews,com >, b@p.h
>>>says...
>>>> No, BKF contains oxalic acid and requires coating and time
>>>> (and maybe repeat applications) to work.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't use it as a scrubbing powder. A good
>>>> green scrubber pad and some Dawn will do for that.
>>>
>>>If you read the BKF instructions you will see that you are wrong.
>>
>> Scrubbing powders are for people who don't own green
>> scrubber pads.
>>
>> I would not use BKF as a scrubbing powder.
>
>That's nice, but the design and intent of the product is (drum roll,
>please) - scrubbing powder. Abrasive.
>
I can't believe this discussion is still going! The subject title was
a dumb idea to begin with and now you have to convince someone that
it's an abrasive powder when one major use is as a brass polish? Some
people only learn by trial and error. Yes, you *can* use it in the
dishwasher. Is it a good idea? No.

Any posters who remain unconvinced should experiment and use it on a
daily basis for a year - if their dishwasher lasts that long. It's
not our dishwasher and it's not our dishes they are experimenting
with.

--
See return address to reply by email

Reply from: Peter A
Date: 21 Jan 2007, 22:26
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

In article <xTNsh.546895$6O4.165006@fe09.news.easynews,com >, b@p.h
says...
> But as a reducing agent for stainless steel, it is by far
> the best thing I've ever used.
>

Yes, but you have to scrub!

--
Peter Aitken

Reply from: JoeSpareBedroom
Date: 20 Jan 2007, 05:22
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

"Zarky Zork" <zorkyzork@bonkaloo,net > wrote in message
news:VXcsh.17487$ZT3.6748@newssvr19.news.prodigy,com ...
> Hi, will a scoop of Bar Keepers Friend powder in the dishwasher along with
> detergent get stains off stainless steel? Can it harm the dishwasher?
>
> Thx


Absolutely NOT. BKF (like Bon Ami) is an abrasive powder, meant to be
applied with a rough scrubber pad.



Reply from: Pennyaline
Date: 20 Jan 2007, 16:58
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Zarky Zork" <zorkyzork@bonkaloo,net > wrote in message
> news:VXcsh.17487$ZT3.6748@newssvr19.news.prodigy,com ...
>> Hi, will a scoop of Bar Keepers Friend powder in the dishwasher along with
>> detergent get stains off stainless steel? Can it harm the dishwasher?
>>
>> Thx
>
>
> Absolutely NOT. BKF (like Bon Ami) is an abrasive powder, meant to be
> applied with a rough scrubber pad.

And, absolutely assume that it WILL harm the dishwasher!

Reply from: JoeSpareBedroom
Date: 20 Jan 2007, 17:07
Re: Bar Keepers Friend in dishwasher?

"Pennyaline" <candyapple@caramel.corn> wrote in message
news:45b23bf5$0$25775$815e3792@news.qwest,net ...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Zarky Zork" <zorkyzork@bonkaloo,net > wrote in message
>> news:VXcsh.17487$ZT3.6748@newssvr19.news.prodigy,com ...
>>> Hi, will a scoop of Bar Keepers Friend powder in the dishwasher along
>>> with
>>> detergent get stains off stainless steel? Can it harm the dishwasher?
>>>
>>> Thx
>>
>>
>> Absolutely NOT. BKF (like Bon Ami) is an abrasive powder, meant to be
>> applied with a rough scrubber pad.
>
> And, absolutely assume that it WILL harm the dishwasher!


Yeah. BKF is a good product, but it's rough stuff. I wouldn't want it
swirling around in my dishwasher, unless buying a new machine was my idea of
a good time.






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