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Does anyone make a poly knife block
Does anyone make a poly knife block
In discussions at Ambrosi Brothers Restaurant Supply (The Wustof,
Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, Dexter professional food supply
retailer) we all agree that poly cutting boards are less harmful to a
knife's edge than wood. Does anyone make a large scale poly storage
block? In addition to treating the knives better, a poly block would
be easier to clean properly. I'm sure these blocks could be colored
something other than translucent white.
Barring a poly block being available, does any block maker have a
block with poly strip inserts on the bottom edge of each slot? You
couldn't put this block in the dishwasher, but at least it would
protect the knife edge. Thanks
In discussions at Ambrosi Brothers Restaurant Supply (The Wustof,
Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, Dexter professional food supply
retailer) we all agree that poly cutting boards are less harmful to a
knife's edge than wood. Does anyone make a large scale poly storage
block? In addition to treating the knives better, a poly block would
be easier to clean properly. I'm sure these blocks could be colored
something other than translucent white.
Barring a poly block being available, does any block maker have a
block with poly strip inserts on the bottom edge of each slot? You
couldn't put this block in the dishwasher, but at least it would
protect the knife edge. Thanks
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On 28 Feb 2007 15:30:11 -0800, tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com wrote:
> Does anyone make a large scale poly storage
>block?
There is nothing wrong with a wood block. The secret....horizontal
slots. The blade will never touch.
On 28 Feb 2007 15:30:11 -0800, tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com wrote:
> Does anyone make a large scale poly storage
>block?
There is nothing wrong with a wood block. The secret....horizontal
slots. The blade will never touch.
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:44:57 -0500, Ward Abbott <presby@terian,com > wrote:
>There is nothing wrong with a wood block. The secret....horizontal
>slots. The blade will never touch.
I'd be willing to bet the blade would touch in any such block.
Now the blade _edge_ might be another matter entirely... 8;)
-- Larry
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:44:57 -0500, Ward Abbott <presby@terian,com > wrote:
>There is nothing wrong with a wood block. The secret....horizontal
>slots. The blade will never touch.
I'd be willing to bet the blade would touch in any such block.
Now the blade _edge_ might be another matter entirely... 8;)
-- Larry
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On Feb 28, 9:09 pm, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:44:57 -0500, Ward Abbott <pre...@terian,com > wrote:
> >There is nothing wrong with a wood block. The secret....horizontal
> >slots. The blade will never touch.
>
> I'd be willing to bet the blade would touch in any such block.
>
> Now the blade edge might be another matter entirely... 8;)
>
> -- Larry
Actually I just checked because I have one with a horizontal set of 6
slots. Yep the blades still touch often and it's when you put them in
and take them out that the blades most often touch. I even tried
putting the blades in upside down in a standard block. Not much better
as the handle weight caused the blades to touch the upper portion of
the slot. I really think it either has to have a poly liner (slightly
slotted to guide the blade edge might help), or a completely poly
block you could throw into the dishwasher to clean.
On Feb 28, 9:09 pm, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:44:57 -0500, Ward Abbott <pre...@terian,com > wrote:
> >There is nothing wrong with a wood block. The secret....horizontal
> >slots. The blade will never touch.
>
> I'd be willing to bet the blade would touch in any such block.
>
> Now the blade edge might be another matter entirely... 8;)
>
> -- Larry
Actually I just checked because I have one with a horizontal set of 6
slots. Yep the blades still touch often and it's when you put them in
and take them out that the blades most often touch. I even tried
putting the blades in upside down in a standard block. Not much better
as the handle weight caused the blades to touch the upper portion of
the slot. I really think it either has to have a poly liner (slightly
slotted to guide the blade edge might help), or a completely poly
block you could throw into the dishwasher to clean.
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
> I'd be willing to bet the blade would touch in any such block.
>
> Now the blade _edge_ might be another matter entirely... 8;)
You obviously have not seen the new anti-gravity knife blocks
> I'd be willing to bet the blade would touch in any such block.
>
> Now the blade _edge_ might be another matter entirely... 8;)
You obviously have not seen the new anti-gravity knife blocks
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On Feb 28, 5:30 pm, tomtgradec...@yahoo,com wrote:
> In discussions at Ambrosi Brothers Restaurant Supply (The Wustof,
> Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, Dexter professional food supply
> retailer) we all agree that poly cutting boards are less harmful to a
> knife's edge than wood. Does anyone make a large scale poly storage
> block? In addition to treating the knives better, a poly block would
> be easier to clean properly. I'm sure these blocks could be colored
> something other than translucent white.
>
> Barring a poly block being available, does any block maker have a
> block with poly strip inserts on the bottom edge of each slot? You
> couldn't put this block in the dishwasher, but at least it would
> protect the knife edge. Thanks
Go here... it is exactly what you're looking for...
http :// preview.tinyurl,com /2fyj3x
On Feb 28, 5:30 pm, tomtgradec...@yahoo,com wrote:
> In discussions at Ambrosi Brothers Restaurant Supply (The Wustof,
> Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, Dexter professional food supply
> retailer) we all agree that poly cutting boards are less harmful to a
> knife's edge than wood. Does anyone make a large scale poly storage
> block? In addition to treating the knives better, a poly block would
> be easier to clean properly. I'm sure these blocks could be colored
> something other than translucent white.
>
> Barring a poly block being available, does any block maker have a
> block with poly strip inserts on the bottom edge of each slot? You
> couldn't put this block in the dishwasher, but at least it would
> protect the knife edge. Thanks
Go here... it is exactly what you're looking for...
http :// preview.tinyurl,com /2fyj3x
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
holy shit that looks great. Only thing is... since when does polyethylene
"not dull knives" ? Plastic dulls knives more than wood.
holy shit that looks great. Only thing is... since when does polyethylene
"not dull knives" ? Plastic dulls knives more than wood.
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On Mar 1, 10:02 pm, "Zarky Zork" <zorkyz...@bonkaloo,net > wrote:
> holy shit that looks great. Only thing is... since when does polyethylene
> "not dull knives" ? Plastic dulls knives more than wood.
Maybe all the information given to me by Ambrosi Brothers who are
Wustof,
Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, and Dexter professional food
supply
retailers is wrong but Ambrosi and all the knife company manufacturers
technical people I've met say that poly materials are less of a
problem on knife edges than wood for many many reasons.
#1 poly materials are consistant and wood fibers are inconsistant, so
wood fibers have soft areas and hard areas and poly materials have one
consistant rubbery surface. #2) Almost all cutting block woods are
made of woods that are much desner and harder than poly materials. #3)
Poly materials are also self sealing because they are gummy instead of
being hard like woods. When you slice across a poly material the slice
only goes in a bit because the surface is holding molecules together,
even though those poly surfaces are much softer and rubberier than
wood. #4) Wood developes little tracks that twist a blade edge, while
poly doesn't. Every knife company I've ever contacted has told me that
to prevent edge damage on their knives, use a poly cutting board.
That's why I don't know why they don't make many poly knife storage
blocks.
On Mar 1, 10:02 pm, "Zarky Zork" <zorkyz...@bonkaloo,net > wrote:
> holy shit that looks great. Only thing is... since when does polyethylene
> "not dull knives" ? Plastic dulls knives more than wood.
Maybe all the information given to me by Ambrosi Brothers who are
Wustof,
Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, and Dexter professional food
supply
retailers is wrong but Ambrosi and all the knife company manufacturers
technical people I've met say that poly materials are less of a
problem on knife edges than wood for many many reasons.
#1 poly materials are consistant and wood fibers are inconsistant, so
wood fibers have soft areas and hard areas and poly materials have one
consistant rubbery surface. #2) Almost all cutting block woods are
made of woods that are much desner and harder than poly materials. #3)
Poly materials are also self sealing because they are gummy instead of
being hard like woods. When you slice across a poly material the slice
only goes in a bit because the surface is holding molecules together,
even though those poly surfaces are much softer and rubberier than
wood. #4) Wood developes little tracks that twist a blade edge, while
poly doesn't. Every knife company I've ever contacted has told me that
to prevent edge damage on their knives, use a poly cutting board.
That's why I don't know why they don't make many poly knife storage
blocks.
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
In article <1172861300.242062.195170@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com says...
> #1 poly materials are consistant and wood fibers are inconsistant, so
> wood fibers have soft areas and hard areas and poly materials have one
> consistant rubbery surface. #2) Almost all cutting block woods are
> made of woods that are much desner and harder than poly materials. #3)
> Poly materials are also self sealing because they are gummy instead of
> being hard like woods. When you slice across a poly material the slice
> only goes in a bit because the surface is holding molecules together,
> even though those poly surfaces are much softer and rubberier than
> wood. #4) Wood developes little tracks that twist a blade edge, while
> poly doesn't. Every knife company I've ever contacted has told me that
> to prevent edge damage on their knives, use a poly cutting board.
> That's why I don't know why they don't make many poly knife storage
> blocks.
>
With a block that holds the knives horizontally, it is not a problem.
--
Peter Aitken
In article <1172861300.242062.195170@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com says...
> #1 poly materials are consistant and wood fibers are inconsistant, so
> wood fibers have soft areas and hard areas and poly materials have one
> consistant rubbery surface. #2) Almost all cutting block woods are
> made of woods that are much desner and harder than poly materials. #3)
> Poly materials are also self sealing because they are gummy instead of
> being hard like woods. When you slice across a poly material the slice
> only goes in a bit because the surface is holding molecules together,
> even though those poly surfaces are much softer and rubberier than
> wood. #4) Wood developes little tracks that twist a blade edge, while
> poly doesn't. Every knife company I've ever contacted has told me that
> to prevent edge damage on their knives, use a poly cutting board.
> That's why I don't know why they don't make many poly knife storage
> blocks.
>
With a block that holds the knives horizontally, it is not a problem.
--
Peter Aitken
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On Mar 2, 1:58 pm, Peter A <pait...@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
> In article <1172861300.242062.195...@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
> tomtgradec...@yahoo,com says...
>
> > #1 poly materials are consistant and wood fibers are inconsistant, so
> > wood fibers have soft areas and hard areas and poly materials have one
> > consistant rubbery surface. #2) Almost all cutting block woods are
> > made of woods that are much desner and harder than poly materials. #3)
> > Poly materials are also self sealing because they are gummy instead of
> > being hard like woods. When you slice across a poly material the slice
> > only goes in a bit because the surface is holding molecules together,
> > even though those poly surfaces are much softer and rubberier than
> > wood. #4) Wood developes little tracks that twist a blade edge, while
> > poly doesn't. Every knife company I've ever contacted has told me that
> > to prevent edge damage on their knives, use a poly cutting board.
> > That's why I don't know why they don't make many poly knife storage
> > blocks.
>
> With a block that holds the knives horizontally, it is not a problem.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
On Mar 2, 1:58 pm, Peter A <pait...@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
> In article <1172861300.242062.195...@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
> tomtgradec...@yahoo,com says...
>
> > #1 poly materials are consistant and wood fibers are inconsistant, so
> > wood fibers have soft areas and hard areas and poly materials have one
> > consistant rubbery surface. #2) Almost all cutting block woods are
> > made of woods that are much desner and harder than poly materials. #3)
> > Poly materials are also self sealing because they are gummy instead of
> > being hard like woods. When you slice across a poly material the slice
> > only goes in a bit because the surface is holding molecules together,
> > even though those poly surfaces are much softer and rubberier than
> > wood. #4) Wood developes little tracks that twist a blade edge, while
> > poly doesn't. Every knife company I've ever contacted has told me that
> > to prevent edge damage on their knives, use a poly cutting board.
> > That's why I don't know why they don't make many poly knife storage
> > blocks.
>
> With a block that holds the knives horizontally, it is not a problem.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
In article <1172868061.649422.179650@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com says...
>
> Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
> blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
> storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
> wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
>
>
You really like to fret about trivialities. I have been using a
horizontal wooden knife block for over a decade and my knives stay
perfectly sharp. Anyway, if you insert the knife properly the blade does
not contact anything. People have been using wooden cutting boards for
centuries, too.
And what's with putting knife blocks in the dishwasher? Unless you are
in the habit of putting dirty knives in the block, it's a waste of water
and soap.
Christ, the things people obsess about!
--
Peter Aitken
In article <1172868061.649422.179650@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com says...
>
> Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
> blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
> storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
> wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
>
>
You really like to fret about trivialities. I have been using a
horizontal wooden knife block for over a decade and my knives stay
perfectly sharp. Anyway, if you insert the knife properly the blade does
not contact anything. People have been using wooden cutting boards for
centuries, too.
And what's with putting knife blocks in the dishwasher? Unless you are
in the habit of putting dirty knives in the block, it's a waste of water
and soap.
Christ, the things people obsess about!
--
Peter Aitken
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On 3/2/07 4:00 PM, in article
MPG.20525a747f120067989a8b@news-server.nc.rr,com , "Peter A"
<paitken@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
> In article <1172868061.649422.179650@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
> tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com says...
>>
>> Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
>> blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
>> storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
>> wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
>> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
>>
>>
>
> You really like to fret about trivialities. I have been using a
> horizontal wooden knife block for over a decade and my knives stay
> perfectly sharp. Anyway, if you insert the knife properly the blade does
> not contact anything. People have been using wooden cutting boards for
> centuries, too.
>
> And what's with putting knife blocks in the dishwasher? Unless you are
> in the habit of putting dirty knives in the block, it's a waste of water
> and soap.
>
> Christ, the things people obsess about!
Peter:
You've said it the best. Either this guy has an OCD problem like Monk or
he's shilling for the poly block maker/vendor.
--
de N2MPU Jack
Modeling the NYC/NYNH&H in HO and CP Rail/D&H in N
Proud NRA Life Member
On 3/2/07 4:00 PM, in article
MPG.20525a747f120067989a8b@news-server.nc.rr,com , "Peter A"
<paitken@CRAPnc.rr,com > wrote:
> In article <1172868061.649422.179650@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com >,
> tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com says...
>>
>> Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
>> blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
>> storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
>> wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
>> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
>>
>>
>
> You really like to fret about trivialities. I have been using a
> horizontal wooden knife block for over a decade and my knives stay
> perfectly sharp. Anyway, if you insert the knife properly the blade does
> not contact anything. People have been using wooden cutting boards for
> centuries, too.
>
> And what's with putting knife blocks in the dishwasher? Unless you are
> in the habit of putting dirty knives in the block, it's a waste of water
> and soap.
>
> Christ, the things people obsess about!
Peter:
You've said it the best. Either this guy has an OCD problem like Monk or
he's shilling for the poly block maker/vendor.
--
de N2MPU Jack
Modeling the NYC/NYNH&H in HO and CP Rail/D&H in N
Proud NRA Life Member
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
<tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1172868061.649422.179650@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com
>
> Also wood blocks cannot
> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
I usually wash my knives beforeI put them away. This helps to keep block
from needing washing.
BOB
why do I small a SPAM coming soon from a poster near the OP?
<tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1172868061.649422.179650@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com
>
> Also wood blocks cannot
> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
I usually wash my knives beforeI put them away. This helps to keep block
from needing washing.
BOB
why do I small a SPAM coming soon from a poster near the OP?
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com wrote:
> Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
> blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
> storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
> wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
Oh fer kristsakes.
--
Dave
www .davebbq,com
tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com wrote:
> Gee whiz, as another poster and I have mentioned above, the knife
> blades still contact the wood at an angle in a horizontal slot wood
> storage block (even worse than vertical because the blade scrapes the
> wood side-ways) and this still dulls the edge. Also wood blocks cannot
> be dishwashed and a poly block could be dishwashed.
Oh fer kristsakes.
--
Dave
www .davebbq,com
Re: Does anyone make a poly knife block
On 3/2/07 1:48 PM, in article
1172861300.242062.195170@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com ,
"tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com " <tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On Mar 1, 10:02 pm, "Zarky Zork" <zorkyz...@bonkaloo,net > wrote:
>> holy shit that looks great. Only thing is... since when does polyethylene
>> "not dull knives" ? Plastic dulls knives more than wood.
>
> Maybe all the information given to me by Ambrosi Brothers who are
> Wustof, Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, and Dexter professional food
> supply
> retailers is wrong but Ambrosi and all the knife company manufacturers
> technical people I've met say that poly materials are less of a
> problem on knife edges than wood for many many reasons.
>
Your sources are wrong. I'd not rely on a vendor to give good info, mainly
because they want to push whatever they have an overstock of, or what they
think is the next hot product. If you want good info on what type of cutting
block to use, go to the manufacturer of the knife. For food safety, a clean
wood cutting board is best. Besides, who uses their knife block to cut on?
That's not a proper use of the tool.
Unless this guy's a salesman for the poly knife block!
--
de N2MPU Jack
Modeling the NYC/NYNH&H in HO and CP Rail/D&H in N
Proud NRA Life Member
On 3/2/07 1:48 PM, in article
1172861300.242062.195170@30g2000cwc.googlegroups,com ,
"tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com " <tomtgradeczek@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On Mar 1, 10:02 pm, "Zarky Zork" <zorkyz...@bonkaloo,net > wrote:
>> holy shit that looks great. Only thing is... since when does polyethylene
>> "not dull knives" ? Plastic dulls knives more than wood.
>
> Maybe all the information given to me by Ambrosi Brothers who are
> Wustof, Henkel, Kershaw/Kai Shun, Victornox, and Dexter professional food
> supply
> retailers is wrong but Ambrosi and all the knife company manufacturers
> technical people I've met say that poly materials are less of a
> problem on knife edges than wood for many many reasons.
>
Your sources are wrong. I'd not rely on a vendor to give good info, mainly
because they want to push whatever they have an overstock of, or what they
think is the next hot product. If you want good info on what type of cutting
block to use, go to the manufacturer of the knife. For food safety, a clean
wood cutting board is best. Besides, who uses their knife block to cut on?
That's not a proper use of the tool.
Unless this guy's a salesman for the poly knife block!
--
de N2MPU Jack
Modeling the NYC/NYNH&H in HO and CP Rail/D&H in N
Proud NRA Life Member
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