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Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

Reply from: chimera
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 16:56
Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

* w w w .sourdoughhome . com /breadshoppe.html
Thanks so much on bagel site link. These seem so intimidating to try,
but this link has so many pictures and such great info, it seems within
reach. I don't know if they would taste like New York bagels, but that
all depends on the baker I guess. Thanks for taking the mystery out of
it all anyway.

Reply from: Mike Avery
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 17:46
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

Hi,

Thanks for the kind words. However, your pointer is off a bit. The
bagel recipe is at: * w w w .sourdoughhome . com /sourdoughbagels.html
and at the bottom of that page is a pointer to a printer friendly page.

The pointer you provided is to my shop where I sell some bread related
items. I usually don't push that page much. My wife says I should push
it more.

Best wishes,
Mike

chimera wrote:
> * w w w .sourdoughhome . com /breadshoppe.html
> Thanks so much on bagel site link. These seem so intimidating to try,
> but this link has so many pictures and such great info, it seems within
> reach. I don't know if they would taste like New York bagels, but that
> all depends on the baker I guess. Thanks for taking the mystery out of
> it all anyway.
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Reply from: Trix
Date: 30 Mar 2007, 18:35
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

"The bagel recipe is at: * w w w .sourdoughhome . com /
sourdoughbagels.html
> and at the bottom of that page is a pointer to a printer friendly page."

I used your sourdough bagel recipe yesterday and boiled/baked them
this morning. They came out great. The only thing I didn't have on
hand was light Olive Oil only extra virgin, so I used some expeller-
pressed coconut oil (no coconut flavor at all in that) instead. It
worked fine.
They are really rather easy to make. Thanks.

Lucy


Reply from: Dick Adams
Date: 03 Apr 2007, 15:41
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site


"Trix" <trixpoe@gmail . com > wrote in message =
news:1175272533.149253.92370@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
> ... I didn't have ... light Olive Oil only extra virgin, so I used 
> some expeller-pressed coconut oil (no coconut flavor at 
> all in that) instead. It worked fine.

Coconut oil'll kill ya, Lucy. Just as sure as cigarettes.  

Most breads do not need oil or fat. There is a bit of oil naturally 
from the grain, like maybe 1 %.

--
Dicky

Reply from: Dusty da baker
Date: 03 Apr 2007, 16:18
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

G'day Dicky & all;

"Dick Adams" <Bad.Addr@nonexist . com > wrote in message
news:wQsQh.237703$5j1.73318@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att . net ...

"Trix" <trixpoe@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:1175272533.149253.92370@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
> ... I didn't have ... light Olive Oil only extra virgin, so I used
> some expeller-pressed coconut oil (no coconut flavor at
> all in that) instead. It worked fine.

Coconut oil'll kill ya, Lucy. Just as sure as cigarettes.
[Unless you were joking, Dicky, that statement (the part about the coconut
oil) isn't true. Never has been...although that certainly hasn't kept it
from creeping into the "everybody knows" domain...]

Most breads do not need oil or fat. There is a bit of oil naturally
from the grain, like maybe 1 %
[I certainly can agree with you there, Dicky. However, sittin' out here in
the Arizona desert, I've taken to coating my boule with OO so that the crust
doesn't dry out while it's doing it's final proof. Seems to work just fine
like that...


L8r all,
Dusty].

--
Dicky



Reply from: Will
Date: 03 Apr 2007, 17:37
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

On Apr 3, 8:41 am, "Dick Adams" <Bad.A...@nonexist . com > wrote:

> Coconut oil'll kill ya, Lucy. Just as sure as cigarettes.

Actually coconut is very healthy for you. Of course the canola folks
don't see it that way <g>.

* w w w .westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html


Reply from: escapee@nospam . net
Date: 03 Apr 2007, 18:03
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

Lard, coconut oil, palm oil, and others are good for me????? There's
some group to promote anything. Can you provide a link to a group
that promotes drunk driving, too?

On 3 Apr 2007 08:37:34 -0700, "Will" <waller.william@gmail . com > wrote:

>On Apr 3, 8:41 am, "Dick Adams" <Bad.A...@nonexist . com > wrote:
>
>> Coconut oil'll kill ya, Lucy. Just as sure as cigarettes.
>
>Actually coconut is very healthy for you. Of course the canola folks
>don't see it that way <g>.
>
> * w w w .westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

Reply from: Will
Date: 03 Apr 2007, 18:29
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

On Apr 3, 11:03 am, esca...@nospam . net wrote:

> Lard, coconut oil, palm oil, and others are good for me????? There's
> some group to promote anything.

It helps if you actually read the material before denouncing it <g>.









Reply from: escapee@nospam . net
Date: 04 Apr 2007, 01:45
Re: Thanks to Mike on Bagel site

Your presumption that I did not follow the link you provided (and
follow additional links provided from there) is incorrect and
offensive. The Weston A. Price Foundation seems to rely very heavily
on the writings of a Mary G. Enig, PhD, who owns a consulting firm in
the Washington, DC, area. Following subsequent links generally come
back to her writings, which are so limited in scope that one might
conclude she consults for (and publishes findings for) a small group
of people who all share similar economic interests - mainly promoting
tropical oils. Her book, published in 1993, is no longer available
and there is no information (at Amazon . com ) on when or if, it will
again be available. If her information is so valuable, why it it not
available and widely promoted? the web site for her firm posts a
position that was open in Feburary 2006. In my opinion, there is
nothing to make her, or her firm, appear to be creditable.

In case you may be interested, I believe a balanced diet, combined
with exercise, it in the best interest of any human who desires to
live as long as possible. I use dry, shredded coconut in several
recipes. The oil remaining on my fingers after handling it indicate
that while the water may evaporate, the oil does not. I like the
flavor it adds and don't worry about the possible bad effects. I also
use coconut milk occasionally - mostly in Pina Coladas. I also use
butter in everything that calls for butter or margerine. I won't
allow margerine in my house, much less in my kitchen! I consume
moderate amounts of animal fat through eating beef and pork. I enjoy
a good steak and prefer bacon or sausage with breakfast. I grew up on
that diet. Although I never buy lard, I do use bacon drippings
frequently in cooking. (Alaska Sourdough is a good example.) But, I
also use vegetable oils whenever they better suit the circumstances.
Canola oil works great for deep frying! I just don't worry about
eating moderate quantities of just about anything that produces
good-tasting food.

In summary, I believe that minimizing consumption of all fats,
combined with exercise, is generally good advice for almost anyone.
Making educated choices about food intake is good for everyone. Your
stating, with some implied degree of authority, that consumption of
coconut oil, palm oil, and lard, etc, is healthier than consumption of
vegetable oils is, in my opinion, simply stupid.

I wish you a long, healthy, and happy life.

Good day to you, sir.


On 3 Apr 2007 09:29:16 -0700, "Will" <waller.william@gmail . com > wrote:

>On Apr 3, 11:03 am, esca...@nospam . net wrote:
>
>> Lard, coconut oil, palm oil, and others are good for me????? There's
>> some group to promote anything.
>
>It helps if you actually read the material before denouncing it <g>.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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