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Best mp3 player sound with Grados
Best mp3 player sound with Grados
Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
an additional amp?
Thanks very much for your help here.
Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
an additional amp?
Thanks very much for your help here.
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
In article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3127@gmail,com >
wrote:
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes---HOWEVER, my
impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
Do you already have a pair of 80's that you want to use? If not, and you
like the Grado sound, then I suspect that 60's would be better for Ipod
use.
I have 80's and prefer to use my Sennheiser CX-300 earbuds with my Ipod.
Greg
In article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3127@gmail,com >
wrote:
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes---HOWEVER, my
impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
Do you already have a pair of 80's that you want to use? If not, and you
like the Grado sound, then I suspect that 60's would be better for Ipod
use.
I have 80's and prefer to use my Sennheiser CX-300 earbuds with my Ipod.
Greg
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
Greg Wormald <greg.wormald@gmail,com > wrote:
> In article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3127@gmail,com >
> wrote:
> > Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> > sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> > group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> > has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> > an additional amp?
> > Thanks very much for your help here.
> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
I don't know that they are better or worse than other portable digital
players.
---HOWEVER, my
> impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
> headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
The Grado SR80s have a specified impedence of 32 ohms at 1 kHz. If they have a simialrly low
impedence at low frequencies, the bass will sound attenuated on an iPod 'Classic' ior a
'Mini'. A safer bet for these would be to use headphones with a high rated impedence e.g ~60
ohms @ 1 kHz.
The ipod Shuffle, on the other hand, may do just fine even with 32 ohm earbuds!
http :// home,com cast,net /~machrone/playertest/playertest.htm
___
-S
"As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Greg Wormald <greg.wormald@gmail,com > wrote:
> In article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3127@gmail,com >
> wrote:
> > Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> > sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> > group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> > has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> > an additional amp?
> > Thanks very much for your help here.
> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
I don't know that they are better or worse than other portable digital
players.
---HOWEVER, my
> impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
> headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
The Grado SR80s have a specified impedence of 32 ohms at 1 kHz. If they have a simialrly low
impedence at low frequencies, the bass will sound attenuated on an iPod 'Classic' ior a
'Mini'. A safer bet for these would be to use headphones with a high rated impedence e.g ~60
ohms @ 1 kHz.
The ipod Shuffle, on the other hand, may do just fine even with 32 ohm earbuds!
http :// home,com cast,net /~machrone/playertest/playertest.htm
___
-S
"As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
On Nov 27, 7:28 pm, Steven Sullivan <ssu...@panix,com > wrote:
> Greg Wormald <greg.worm...@gmail,com > wrote:
> > In article <fifli001...@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3...@gmail,com >
> > wrote:
> > > Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> > > sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> > > group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> > > has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> > > an additional amp?
> > > Thanks very much for your help here.
> > I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
>
> I don't know that they are better or worse than other portable digital
> players.
>
> ---HOWEVER, my
>
> > impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
> > headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
>
> The Grado SR80s have a specified impedence of 32 ohms at 1 kHz. If they have a simialrly low
> impedence at low frequencies, the bass will sound attenuated on an iPod 'Classic' ior a
> 'Mini'. A safer bet for these would be to use headphones with a high rated impedence e.g ~60
> ohms @ 1 kHz.
>
> The ipod Shuffle, on the other hand, may do just fine even with 32 ohm earbuds!
>
> http :// home,com cast,net /~machrone/playertest/playertest.htm
>
>
> -S
> "As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
> metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Much obliged to all for your responses!
On Nov 27, 7:28 pm, Steven Sullivan <ssu...@panix,com > wrote:
> Greg Wormald <greg.worm...@gmail,com > wrote:
> > In article <fifli001...@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3...@gmail,com >
> > wrote:
> > > Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> > > sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> > > group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> > > has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> > > an additional amp?
> > > Thanks very much for your help here.
> > I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
>
> I don't know that they are better or worse than other portable digital
> players.
>
> ---HOWEVER, my
>
> > impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
> > headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
>
> The Grado SR80s have a specified impedence of 32 ohms at 1 kHz. If they have a simialrly low
> impedence at low frequencies, the bass will sound attenuated on an iPod 'Classic' ior a
> 'Mini'. A safer bet for these would be to use headphones with a high rated impedence e.g ~60
> ohms @ 1 kHz.
>
> The ipod Shuffle, on the other hand, may do just fine even with 32 ohm earbuds!
>
> http :// home,com cast,net /~machrone/playertest/playertest.htm
>
>
> -S
> "As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
> metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Much obliged to all for your responses!
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
Steven Sullivan wrote:
> Greg Wormald <greg.wormald@gmail,com > wrote:
>> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
> I don't know that they are better or worse
> than other portable digital players.
i have some interest in this for myself
which, if any, are as good or better
than an ipod?
bill
Steven Sullivan wrote:
> Greg Wormald <greg.wormald@gmail,com > wrote:
>> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
> I don't know that they are better or worse
> than other portable digital players.
i have some interest in this for myself
which, if any, are as good or better
than an ipod?
bill
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
"willbill" <trek@worldwide,net > wrote in message
news:finlcd0fu3@news2.newsguy,com
> Steven Sullivan wrote:
>> Greg Wormald <greg.wormald@gmail,com > wrote:
>>> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
>> I don't know that they are better or worse
>> than other portable digital players.
> i have some interest in this for myself
> which, if any, are as good or better than an ipod?
Certainly the Microtrack and other portable digital recorders/players of its
type have better technical performance.
"willbill" <trek@worldwide,net > wrote in message
news:finlcd0fu3@news2.newsguy,com
> Steven Sullivan wrote:
>> Greg Wormald <greg.wormald@gmail,com > wrote:
>>> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
>> I don't know that they are better or worse
>> than other portable digital players.
> i have some interest in this for myself
> which, if any, are as good or better than an ipod?
Certainly the Microtrack and other portable digital recorders/players of its
type have better technical performance.
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
On Nov 26, 9:51 pm, Greg Wormald <greg.worm...@gmail,com > wrote:
> In article <fifli001...@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3...@gmail,com >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> > sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> > group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> > has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> > an additional amp?
> > Thanks very much for your help here.
>
> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes---HOWEVER, my
> impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
> headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
> Do you already have a pair of 80's that you want to use? If not, and you
> like the Grado sound, then I suspect that 60's would be better for Ipod
> use.
> I have 80's and prefer to use my Sennheiser CX-300 earbuds with my Ipod.
> Greg
No, I use 225s on my system, but I can get 60s for this, thanks!
On Nov 26, 9:51 pm, Greg Wormald <greg.worm...@gmail,com > wrote:
> In article <fifli001...@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich <rander3...@gmail,com >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> > sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> > group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> > has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> > an additional amp?
> > Thanks very much for your help here.
>
> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes---HOWEVER, my
> impression of the Grado 80's is that they are best with a dedicated
> headphone amp, otherwise they sound a bit 'flat'.
> Do you already have a pair of 80's that you want to use? If not, and you
> like the Grado sound, then I suspect that 60's would be better for Ipod
> use.
> I have 80's and prefer to use my Sennheiser CX-300 earbuds with my Ipod.
> Greg
No, I use 225s on my system, but I can get 60s for this, thanks!
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
Greg Wormald wrote:
> In article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich wrote:
>> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
>> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
>> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
>> has the best quality sound
> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
i have some interest in this for myself
which current ipod?
i mean, from what little i've seen,
there are more than several of them
tia, bill
Greg Wormald wrote:
> In article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >, Rich wrote:
>> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
>> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
>> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
>> has the best quality sound
> I know that the Ipods regularly win in the sound stakes
i have some interest in this for myself
which current ipod?
i mean, from what little i've seen,
there are more than several of them
tia, bill
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
Rich <rander3127@gmail,com > wrote:
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
You have to pay attention to the impedence of the headphones.
The ipod can't adequately drive all headphones...even different models in the same
brand. Generally, stay away from low-impedence models for use with ipods.
There's also variation in different ipod models.
Discussion of ipod bench test results
http :// www .avsforum,com /avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11019704#post11019704
___
-S
"As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Rich <rander3127@gmail,com > wrote:
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
You have to pay attention to the impedence of the headphones.
The ipod can't adequately drive all headphones...even different models in the same
brand. Generally, stay away from low-impedence models for use with ipods.
There's also variation in different ipod models.
Discussion of ipod bench test results
http :// www .avsforum,com /avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11019704#post11019704
___
-S
"As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:40:48 -0800, Rich wrote
(in article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >):
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
You mean the Grado SR-80 headphones? Grado phones are pretty inefficient
IIRC, but I also believe that Grado sells an iPod specific set of phones that
I KNOW will work with any iPod or Zune.
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:40:48 -0800, Rich wrote
(in article <fifli001qt1@news3.newsguy,com >):
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
You mean the Grado SR-80 headphones? Grado phones are pretty inefficient
IIRC, but I also believe that Grado sells an iPod specific set of phones that
I KNOW will work with any iPod or Zune.
Re: Best mp3 player sound with Grados
On Nov 26, 6:40 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail,com > wrote:
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
Rich,
I have a pair of SR80s which sound great from my computer or from my
receiver at home but my iPod (Classic) only sounds okay with them.
The iPod will drive them but they lack the oomph they normally have.
Since the SR80s were a bit big anyhow for with my iPod I went back to
my old yet in my opinion still very good Koss Portapros (this is one
case where Koss seemed to get it right). I still prefer my SR80s when
listening to a bigger system but the Portapros are a good bet for the
iPod.
Bates....
On Nov 26, 6:40 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail,com > wrote:
> Hello. I know very little about these players, I don't want to buy,
> sell, audition a box full of them. I would like to ask (since this
> group most likely knows this) which player (I don't care about video)
> has the best quality sound and can it drive Grado's, say 80s without
> an additional amp?
> Thanks very much for your help here.
Rich,
I have a pair of SR80s which sound great from my computer or from my
receiver at home but my iPod (Classic) only sounds okay with them.
The iPod will drive them but they lack the oomph they normally have.
Since the SR80s were a bit big anyhow for with my iPod I went back to
my old yet in my opinion still very good Koss Portapros (this is one
case where Koss seemed to get it right). I still prefer my SR80s when
listening to a bigger system but the Portapros are a good bet for the
iPod.
Bates....
