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Cables again. For Arny, et al.

Reply from: eseedhouse@gmail,com
Date: 17 Feb 2008, 20:17
Re: Cables again. For Arny, et al.

On Feb 14, 4:38 pm, Sonnova <sonn...@audiosanatorium,com > wrote:

> How can this be that Wayne Garcia, not knowing that anything had changed
> (ostensibly), immediately noticed that something had changed for the better
> in the second set of releases and found it significant enough to mention it
> to Blue Note? Does this mean that interconnects can and do make an audible
> difference (something that my electronic engineering degree makes it hard for
> me to believe).
>
> Arny? Anyone?

I think this is perfectly consistent with a lucky guess! He had a
50/50 chance of being right, so where's
the surprise?

That he would hear a difference between two masterings is hardly any
surprise, most masters
are quite different from others. Given that, he had one chance in two
of picking the one with the changed wires.

And of course, if he'd gotten it wrong there wouldn't have been any
story about it in an audio magazine, so
we'd never know, would we?

Ed Seedhouse
Victoria, B.C.

Reply from: Arny Krueger
Date: 19 Feb 2008, 00:59
Re: Cables again. For Arny, et al.

"Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium,com > wrote in message
news:fp2mtd02u78@news3.newsguy,com

> How can this be that Wayne Garcia, not knowing that
> anything had changed (ostensibly), immediately noticed
> that something had changed for the better in the second
> set of releases and found it significant enough to
> mention it to Blue Note?

If someone sends me two sets of something, then I would naturally presume
that either he screwed up, or that they were supposed to be different. If I
knew the sender to be careful about such things, then I would be left with
the presumption that they are different.

> Does this mean that
> interconnects can and do make an audible difference
> (something that my electronic engineering degree makes it
> hard for me to believe).

This is a vague anecdote. That's a whole lot different from a carefully
controlled experiment. What does one give more credibility - a vague
anecdote or a carefully-controlled experiment?


Reply from: Sonnova
Date: 20 Feb 2008, 03:18
Re: Cables again. For Arny, et al.

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:59:42 -0800, Arny Krueger wrote
(in article <fpd65e024rj@news4.newsguy,com >):

> "Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium,com > wrote in message
> news:fp2mtd02u78@news3.newsguy,com
>
>> How can this be that Wayne Garcia, not knowing that
>> anything had changed (ostensibly), immediately noticed
>> that something had changed for the better in the second
>> set of releases and found it significant enough to
>> mention it to Blue Note?
>
> If someone sends me two sets of something, then I would naturally presume
> that either he screwed up, or that they were supposed to be different. If I
> knew the sender to be careful about such things, then I would be left with
> the presumption that they are different.
>
>> Does this mean that
>> interconnects can and do make an audible difference
>> (something that my electronic engineering degree makes it
>> hard for me to believe).
>
> This is a vague anecdote. That's a whole lot different from a carefully
> controlled experiment. What does one give more credibility - a vague
> anecdote or a carefully-controlled experiment?
>

I think that's my point, more or less.

--
Do you know the difference between students like you, amateurs and
professional jazz musicians? Student bands and amateurs "almost" swing!

Fred Berry
Professor of Music
Stanford University


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