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Ripping Audio Tapes

Reply from: Pan
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 05:46
Ripping Audio Tapes

Hi,
I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
essentially compilations made over many years from other
medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
are all in good condition.

How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
free software available which will help me with this? Are there
many issues involved?



Reply from: Todd H.
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 06:13
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

"Pan" <para@panpan . com > writes:

> Hi,
> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
> essentially compilations made over many years from other
> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
> are all in good condition.
>
> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
> many issues involved?

You can do it with Audacity and whatever sound card you might have.

For LP's, you'll want a preamp with RIAA equalization for best
results.

--
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\ / | * w w w .toddh . net /
X Promoting good netiquette | * triplethreatband . com /
/ \ * w w w .toddh . net /netiquette/ | * myspace . com /mytriplethreatband

Reply from: Pan
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 06:49
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes


"Todd H." <bmiawmb@toddh . net > wrote in message
news:84640msg3d.fsf@ripco . com ...
> "Pan" <para@panpan . com > writes:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
>> essentially compilations made over many years from other
>> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
>> are all in good condition.
>>
>> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
>> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
>> many issues involved?
>
> You can do it with Audacity and whatever sound card you might have.
>
> For LP's, you'll want a preamp with RIAA equalization for best
> results.

No, it's just tapes. No LP's.

I found this page which gives instructions on using audacity for this
purpose.
* w w w .nsftools . com /misc/TapeToCD.htm

It talks about converting it into wav files.
Does converting it into wav files have any advantage over converting
to mp3 files other than the fact that you would be able to play it on
players which don't understand mp3.
Will wav quality be better than mp3 - assuming it's coming from an
audio tape run through audacity.





Reply from: Peter Larsen
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 07:23
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

Pan wrote:

> Will wav quality be better than mp3

Yes. It is as comparing 15" tape recording to compact cassette.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen




Reply from: Buzz
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 11:14
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes


"Pan" <para@panpan . com > a écrit dans le message de news: fgbpcn$h3q$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Todd H." <bmiawmb@toddh . net > wrote in message
> news:84640msg3d.fsf@ripco . com ...
> > "Pan" <para@panpan . com > writes:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
> >> essentially compilations made over many years from other
> >> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
> >> are all in good condition.
> >>
> >> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
> >> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
> >> many issues involved?
> >
> > You can do it with Audacity and whatever sound card you might have.
> >
> > For LP's, you'll want a preamp with RIAA equalization for best
> > results.
>
> No, it's just tapes. No LP's.
>
> I found this page which gives instructions on using audacity for this
> purpose.
> * w w w .nsftools . com /misc/TapeToCD.htm
>
> It talks about converting it into wav files.
> Does converting it into wav files have any advantage over converting
> to mp3 files other than the fact that you would be able to play it on
> players which don't understand mp3.
> Will wav quality be better than mp3 - assuming it's coming from an
> audio tape run through audacity.
===================================================

If the software makes it transparent to the user or not, your audio files
will be recorded as Wav files and then if you want, will be transferred into MP3 files.
The Wav files are lossless while MP3 files are compressed systems which lose
a bit of quality. So for the best quality possible, transfer into Wav files and then
make an audio CD out of them.
But MP3 files can be quite ok for an everyday general use if you compress the Wav files
into something at 128 Kbps or more

My way of doing these sort of things here : * w w w .a-reny . com
But if your tapes are good sounding and have no hiss or crackle to
correct, you can very well easerly use Audacity as Todd.H said.


--
Allen Reny
* w w w .a-reny . com



Reply from: Scott Dorsey
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 14:05
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

In article <fgbpcn$h3q$1@news.datemas.de>, Pan <para@panpan . com > wrote:
>
>It talks about converting it into wav files.
>Does converting it into wav files have any advantage over converting
>to mp3 files other than the fact that you would be able to play it on
>players which don't understand mp3.

Yes. MP3 is a low-fi compressed format that is not acceptable if you
intend on doing further processing, or for anything critical.

>Will wav quality be better than mp3 - assuming it's coming from an
>audio tape run through audacity.

Yes. The hard part is getting a good clean play of the cassette with the
azimuth set properly.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Reply from: Todd H.
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 17:48
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

"Pan" <para@panpan . com > writes:

> "Todd H." <bmiawmb@toddh . net > wrote in message
> news:84640msg3d.fsf@ripco . com ...
> > "Pan" <para@panpan . com > writes:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
> >> essentially compilations made over many years from other
> >> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
> >> are all in good condition.
> >>
> >> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
> >> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
> >> many issues involved?
> >
> > You can do it with Audacity and whatever sound card you might have.
> >
> > For LP's, you'll want a preamp with RIAA equalization for best
> > results.
>
> No, it's just tapes. No LP's.
>
> I found this page which gives instructions on using audacity for this
> purpose.
> * w w w .nsftools . com /misc/TapeToCD.htm
>
> It talks about converting it into wav files.
> Does converting it into wav files have any advantage over converting
> to mp3 files other than the fact that you would be able to play it on
> players which don't understand mp3.
> Will wav quality be better than mp3 - assuming it's coming from an
> audio tape run through audacity.

Yes, it will be better quality in WAV since mp3 is a lossy compression
format.

There are lossless compresion formats that Audacity can probably write
to, or you can get another converter to push into. Then you'd make
mp3 conversions from your non-compressed archive copy for playing in
your favorite player.

Give it a try with your existing sound hardware. If the results
aren't satisfactory, perhaps an external a/d converter of some sort
would yield better results. The Griffin iMic, for instance, humble
though it is often sounds better than integrated sound cards, though I
haven't a/b'd a motherboard a/d with it in the past few years.


--
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\ / | * w w w .toddh . net /
X Promoting good netiquette | * triplethreatband . com /
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Reply from: MAMS\
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 07:38
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes


"Pan" <para@panpan . com > wrote in message news:fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de...
> Hi,
> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
> essentially compilations made over many years from other
> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
> are all in good condition.
>
> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
> many issues involved?


You have to play them into your computer in real time. "Rip"
is nonexistant in the world of tape.... unless, of course, you
just want to rip it out of the shell and throw it away. Best
results would probably come from playing back using the
same deck used to make the original recordings if possible.
Just use the stereo line input on your sound card. Once in
the PC, you need some decent 2-track editing software and
a program for burning CDs.

There are too many issues to discuss.... without some really
nice editing software, they will pretty much always sound like
cassette tapes.


--
David Morgan (MAMS)
* w w w .m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
* w w w .januarysound . com






Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 07:56
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

<para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de

> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
> essentially compilations made over many years from other
> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
> are all in good condition.
>
> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
> many issues involved?

What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.

We won't help you with such an activity, ya' crook.

Bob Morein
Dresher, PA
(215) 646-4894


Reply from: MAMS\
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 08:21
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes


"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote in message news:C34FB5B3.8CC2D%nowhere@nowhere.org...
> <para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de
>
> > I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
> > essentially compilations made over many years from other
> > medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
> > are all in good condition.
> >
> > How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
> > free software available which will help me with this? Are there
> > many issues involved?

> What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.


Wrong.... there was a special "tax" on blank cassettes which
covered this, and if he uses "music" CDs... he's covered again.
(For one copy, for personal use only)


> We won't help you with such an activity, ya' crook.

Ah... I see. You were just joking. :-)



--
David Morgan (MAMS)
* w w w .m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
* w w w .januarysound . com















Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 16:33
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes


"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s . com C/Odm> wrote in message
news:o8fWi.2579$TO4.2382@trnddc07...
>
> "Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:C34FB5B3.8CC2D%nowhere@nowhere.org...
>> <para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de
>>
>> > I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
>> > essentially compilations made over many years from other
>> > medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
>> > are all in good condition.
>> >
>> > How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
>> > free software available which will help me with this? Are there
>> > many issues involved?
>
>> What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.
>
>
> Wrong.... there was a special "tax" on blank cassettes which
> covered this, and if he uses "music" CDs... he's covered again.
> (For one copy, for personal use only)
>
Yes, Dave, that's right. I've made quite a few for my car.
>
>> We won't help you with such an activity, ya' crook.
>
> Ah... I see. You were just joking. :-)
>
It's a forgery. Please note the header; it comes from Buzzard News:
Path:
border1.nntp.dca.giganews . com !nntp.giganews . com !nx01.iad01.newshosting . com !newshosting . com !post01.iad01!news.buzzardnews . com !not-for-mail

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: geoff
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 23:21
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
> "Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:C34FB5B3.8CC2D%nowhere@nowhere.org...
>> <para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de
>>
>>> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
>>> essentially compilations made over many years from other
>>> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
>>> are all in good condition.
>>>
>>> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
>>> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
>>> many issues involved?
>
>> What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.
>
>
> Wrong.... there was a special "tax" on blank cassettes which
> covered this, and if he uses "music" CDs... he's covered again.
> (For one copy, for personal use only)

Double wrong. This is 'format-shifting' and perfectly legal in many/most
countries. If not where you are, it should be.

geoff



Reply from: Martin Griffith
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 23:07
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:21:52 +1200, in rec.arts.movies.production.sound
"geoff" <geoff@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote:

>David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
>> "Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>> news:C34FB5B3.8CC2D%nowhere@nowhere.org...
>>> <para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de
>>>
>>>> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
>>>> essentially compilations made over many years from other
>>>> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
>>>> are all in good condition.
>>>>
>>>> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
>>>> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
>>>> many issues involved?
>>
>>> What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.
>>
>>
>> Wrong.... there was a special "tax" on blank cassettes which
>> covered this, and if he uses "music" CDs... he's covered again.
>> (For one copy, for personal use only)
>
>Double wrong. This is 'format-shifting' and perfectly legal in many/most
>countries. If not where you are, it should be.
>
>geoff
>
A bit Off Topic but.....

I was skyping with a mate, who runs a electronics assembly firm in the
yUK, and he had been in telephonic communication with the PRS (uk
riia_mafia), asking if his staff ( both of them ) listened to the
radio when working......

He said, "Yes" , Talk Radio, but they are still going to send him a
bill.

On topic, we were talking about timecode and video and stuff


Martin

Reply from: Pan
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 09:46
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes


"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:C34FB5B3.8CC2D%nowhere@nowhere.org...
> <para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de
>
>> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
>> essentially compilations made over many years from other
>> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
>> are all in good condition.
>>
>> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
>> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
>> many issues involved?
>
> What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.

Why? Isn't this covered by fair use?

I originally owned several audio tapes which were legal.
Mixed and matched songs from several of these to
record them onto Blank audio tapes. And now I want to
transfer them to CD's.
At some time, I have paid for each of these songs.


>
> We won't help you with such an activity, ya' crook.
>
> Bob Morein
> Dresher, PA
> (215) 646-4894
>



Reply from: Martin Harrington
Date: 01 Nov 2007, 23:11
Re: Ripping Audio Tapes

It's actually not illegal to make a backup copy for your own use.
--
Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
Sydney Australia

"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:C34FB5B3.8CC2D%nowhere@nowhere.org...
> <para@panpan . com > wrote in message fgbln6$632$1@news.datemas.de
>
>> I have about 30 audio cassette tapes (C-90)'s. These are
>> essentially compilations made over many years from other
>> medium (other pre-recorded audio tapes, LP's etc). They
>> are all in good condition.
>>
>> How do I rip these & transfer them to a CD? Are there any
>> free software available which will help me with this? Are there
>> many issues involved?
>
> What you're proposing is illegal; a violation of copyright law.
>
> We won't help you with such an activity, ya' crook.
>
> Bob Morein
> Dresher, PA
> (215) 646-4894
>



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