Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article
<smcelroy2-08AAC4.19111103012008@johnf2.biosci.ohio-state.edu>,
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@POPaustin.rr,com > wrote:

> In article <030120081820192688%leave@me.alone>,
> Curmudgeon <leave@me.alone> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <jollyroger-08F17D.14011303012008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns,net >,
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
> >
> > > In article <477D1A5B.35DAD6AB@hotmail,com >,
> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Curmudgeon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, after giving it some serious thought and doing a lot of
> > > > > research,
> > > > > I decided that the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system best fit the bill, and
> > > > > I
> > > > > was able to get it for a terrific price from Amazon so I've just
> > > > > pushed
> > > > > the "Place My Order" button. It should be here in a week or so.
> > > > > Once
> > > > > I've had a chance to audition it, I'll let you know how it sounds.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry to have to say it looks like a truly rubbish choice. I dare
> > > > say
> > > > it'll boom and tizz a bit.
> > >
> > > <sarcasm>
> > > You are able to determine that just based on looks, huh? Amazing!
> > > </sarcasm>
> > >
> > > I, on the other hand, happen to actually *own* the same system (only
> > > mine has four satellites rather than two, and I wouldn't describe it as
> > > "boomy" *or* "tizzy". ; )
> >
> > ;->
> >
> > Cheers!
>
> I'd be more concerned about matching a sub rated up to 100 Hz with
> satellites rated down to 200. That, and a frequency response spec that
> doesn't specify how lumpy that response is.

I care most about how they actually sound. They sound fine to me for my
use.

Then again, if I were looking for studio monitor quality, I wouldn't
have purchased these in the first place.

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article
<jollyroger-F25787.21470503012008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns,net >,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:

> In article
> <smcelroy2-08AAC4.19111103012008@johnf2.biosci.ohio-state.edu>,
> MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@POPaustin.rr,com > wrote:
>
> > In article <030120081820192688%leave@me.alone>,
> > Curmudgeon <leave@me.alone> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <jollyroger-08F17D.14011303012008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns,net >,
> > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <477D1A5B.35DAD6AB@hotmail,com >,
> > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Curmudgeon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, after giving it some serious thought and doing a lot of
> > > > > > research,
> > > > > > I decided that the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system best fit the bill,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > was able to get it for a terrific price from Amazon so I've just
> > > > > > pushed
> > > > > > the "Place My Order" button. It should be here in a week or so.
> > > > > > Once
> > > > > > I've had a chance to audition it, I'll let you know how it sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry to have to say it looks like a truly rubbish choice. I dare
> > > > > say
> > > > > it'll boom and tizz a bit.
> > > >
> > > > <sarcasm>
> > > > You are able to determine that just based on looks, huh? Amazing!
> > > > </sarcasm>
> > > >
> > > > I, on the other hand, happen to actually *own* the same system (only
> > > > mine has four satellites rather than two, and I wouldn't describe it as
> > > > "boomy" *or* "tizzy". ; )
> > >
> > > ;->
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> >
> > I'd be more concerned about matching a sub rated up to 100 Hz with
> > satellites rated down to 200. That, and a frequency response spec that
> > doesn't specify how lumpy that response is.
>
> I care most about how they actually sound. They sound fine to me for my
> use.

The OP wanted a competent music system.

> Then again, if I were looking for studio monitor quality, I wouldn't
> have purchased these in the first place.

That's good to know.

Stephen

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?



Jolly Roger wrote:

> In article <477D1A5B.35DAD6AB@hotmail,com >,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > Curmudgeon wrote:
> >
> > > Well, after giving it some serious thought and doing a lot of research,
> > > I decided that the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system best fit the bill, and I
> > > was able to get it for a terrific price from Amazon so I've just pushed
> > > the "Place My Order" button. It should be here in a week or so. Once
> > > I've had a chance to audition it, I'll let you know how it sounds.
> >
> > I'm sorry to have to say it looks like a truly rubbish choice. I dare say
> > it'll boom and tizz a bit.
>
> <sarcasm>
> You are able to determine that just based on looks, huh? Amazing!
> </sarcasm>

I can determine it based on the size of the components if nothing else and a
cursory look at the specs.

It's a joke.


> I, on the other hand, happen to actually *own* the same system (only
> mine has four satellites rather than two, and I wouldn't describe it as
> "boomy" *or* "tizzy". ; )

I'm entirely sure it also isn't 'hi-fi' by any stretch of the imagination.
It'll be a bit like Bose I suspect. Designed to appeal to those to whom really
good sound quality isn't important but cute looks are.

Graham

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <477DCB3D.BEB816D3@hotmail,com >,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > In article <477D1A5B.35DAD6AB@hotmail,com >,
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:
> >
> > > Curmudgeon wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, after giving it some serious thought and doing a lot of research,
> > > > I decided that the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system best fit the bill, and I
> > > > was able to get it for a terrific price from Amazon so I've just pushed
> > > > the "Place My Order" button. It should be here in a week or so. Once
> > > > I've had a chance to audition it, I'll let you know how it sounds.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry to have to say it looks like a truly rubbish choice. I dare say
> > > it'll boom and tizz a bit.
> >
> > <sarcasm>
> > You are able to determine that just based on looks, huh? Amazing!
> > </sarcasm>
>
> I can determine it based on the size of the components if nothing else and a
> cursory look at the specs.
>
> It's a joke.

So by your measurement *all* speaker systems that are not hi fidelity
are jokes... I see...

> > I, on the other hand, happen to actually *own* the same system (only
> > mine has four satellites rather than two, and I wouldn't describe it as
> > "boomy" *or* "tizzy". ; )
>
> I'm entirely sure it also isn't 'hi-fi' by any stretch of the imagination.

Nor did I imply it was. Hi fi may be a requirement for you, but it's not
for everyone on the planet - especially for a computer speaker system.

> It'll be a bit like Bose I suspect. Designed to appeal to those to whom really
> good sound quality isn't important but cute looks are.

I don't think it looks cute at all. And the OP didn't state hi fi as a
requirement. In fact, here's exactly what he said:

In article <010120081455454225%leave@me.alone>,
Curmudgeon <leave@me.alone> wrote:

> The only demands I'll place on my new system are music reproduction (of
> all genres). I am not a game player, nor do I expect to use the system
> for surround-sound DVD playback. I just want a set of speakers that I
> can plug in, sit back, and enjoy.

The Klipsch speakers I mentioned meet this requirement just fine. They
hapen to reproduce music just fine, and better than a *lot* of other
computer speaker systems.

Get over yourself...

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:

> And the OP didn't state hi fi as a requirement.

No, but perhaps you haven't noticed that this thread is crossposted to
comp.sys.mac.misc, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.misc. In the audio
groups, it's reasonable to speak from an audiophile perspective.

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <1ia6nbd.1ht0ty41w7nfksN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com >,
mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
>
> > And the OP didn't state hi fi as a requirement.
>
> No, but perhaps you haven't noticed that this thread is crossposted to
> comp.sys.mac.misc, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.misc. In the audio
> groups, it's reasonable to speak from an audiophile perspective.

I noticed, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not looking for a hi
fi system. ; )

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <1ia6nbd.1ht0ty41w7nfksN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com >,
> mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
>>
>>> And the OP didn't state hi fi as a requirement.
>> No, but perhaps you haven't noticed that this thread is crossposted to
>> comp.sys.mac.misc, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.misc. In the audio
>> groups, it's reasonable to speak from an audiophile perspective.
>
> I noticed, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not looking for a hi
> fi system. ; )
>
I wonder if you noticed that *all* he will be doing with them is
listening to music...and further, he will not be listening to music on
much of anything else, since he's stored his entire music collection on
the computer? I believe he said something like 'listening system of
choice' or words to that effect.

Unless he's partially deaf or something, that sounds like a requirement
for reasonably high fidelity.

jak

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <v3yfj.61724$K27.11777@bignews6.bellsouth,net >,
jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth,net > wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > In article <1ia6nbd.1ht0ty41w7nfksN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com >,
> > mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> >
> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> And the OP didn't state hi fi as a requirement.
> >> No, but perhaps you haven't noticed that this thread is crossposted to
> >> comp.sys.mac.misc, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.misc. In the audio
> >> groups, it's reasonable to speak from an audiophile perspective.
> >
> > I noticed, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not looking for a hi
> > fi system. ; )
> >
> I wonder if you noticed that *all* he will be doing with them is
> listening to music...and further, he will not be listening to music on
> much of anything else, since he's stored his entire music collection on
> the computer? I believe he said something like 'listening system of
> choice' or words to that effect.
>
> Unless he's partially deaf or something, that sounds like a requirement
> for reasonably high fidelity.

That may be your interpretation, but it's not mine, and since he didn't
clearly state it either way, I guess we'll just have to wait until we
hear it from the horse's mouth.

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?



Jolly Roger wrote:

> jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth,net > wrote:
> > Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > In article <1ia6nbd.1ht0ty41w7nfksN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com >,
> > > mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> > >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> And the OP didn't state hi fi as a requirement.
> > >> No, but perhaps you haven't noticed that this thread is crossposted to
> > >> comp.sys.mac.misc, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.misc. In the audio
> > >> groups, it's reasonable to speak from an audiophile perspective.
> > >
> > > I noticed, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not looking for a hi
> > > fi system. ; )
> > >
> > I wonder if you noticed that *all* he will be doing with them is
> > listening to music...and further, he will not be listening to music on
> > much of anything else, since he's stored his entire music collection on
> > the computer? I believe he said something like 'listening system of
> > choice' or words to that effect.
> >
> > Unless he's partially deaf or something, that sounds like a requirement
> > for reasonably high fidelity.
>
> That may be your interpretation, but it's not mine, and since he didn't
> clearly state it either way, I guess we'll just have to wait until we
> hear it from the horse's mouth.

From the OP's very first post.

" [I] ....would like to begin using it as the playback-system-of-choice so I can
begin
selling off these little silver coasters. Everything's been encoded as
AAC (128 kbps, 44.100 kHz), so the quality should be pretty decent. "

So a boom-tizz box is clearly NOT a suitable choice.

Just noticed another point. Technically, if he's going to sell off the CDs then
he's using the music files that were on them illegally (copyright).

Graham

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <477F1B2E.8493F165@hotmail,com >,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:

> From the OP's very first post.
>
> " [I] ....would like to begin using it as the playback-system-of-choice so I
> can
> begin
> selling off these little silver coasters. Everything's been encoded as
> AAC (128 kbps, 44.100 kHz), so the quality should be pretty decent. "
>
> So a boom-tizz box is clearly NOT a suitable choice.

I guess we'll have to let *him* be the judge of that, huh?

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <477F1B2E.8493F165@hotmail,com >,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail,com > wrote:

> Technically,

Add "morally" and "ethically" while you're at it.

> if he's going to sell off the CDs then he's using the music files
> that were on them illegally (copyright).

Agreed.

I keep my original discs as part of my backup strategy. Doing so paid off
once: Some years ago something crashed (me, I recall) and I nuked my iTunes
Library. I re-ripped all my CDs, the second time at higher resolution.

I always shunned SOFTWARE piracy and now try to do the same with music. I
feel better about it. Of course, there is a real CO$T for such feeling better.

Just because one can now fit a reasonably good copy of their ENTIRE collection
in their pocket is no excuse for stealing music.
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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <v3yfj.61724$K27.11777@bignews6.bellsouth,net >, jakdedert
<jakdedert@bellsouth,net > wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > In article <1ia6nbd.1ht0ty41w7nfksN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com >,
> > mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult,com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> >
> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> And the OP didn't state hi fi as a requirement.
> >> No, but perhaps you haven't noticed that this thread is crossposted to
> >> comp.sys.mac.misc, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.misc. In the audio
> >> groups, it's reasonable to speak from an audiophile perspective.
> >
> > I noticed, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not looking for a hi
> > fi system. ; )
> >
> I wonder if you noticed that *all* he will be doing with them is
> listening to music...and further, he will not be listening to music on
> much of anything else, since he's stored his entire music collection on
> the computer? I believe he said something like 'listening system of
> choice' or words to that effect.
>
> Unless he's partially deaf or something, that sounds like a requirement
> for reasonably high fidelity.

OP here. No, I'm not partially deaf, and I still have some very capable
speakers downstairs (Spica TC-50 w/powered sub and a pair of Vandersteen
2Cs in the basement), but I've been doing most of my listening up in the
loft these days since it's just so much more convenient to use iTunes to
choose what I want to hear. At the same time, I am advancing in age and
I know that my ears aren't what they used to be, so I'm happy to give in
and choose a system that will meet my needs without necessarily being an
ultra-hi-fi solution. I was pretty happy with that Cambridge SoundWorks
system I had been using, and the Klipsch ProAudio 2.1 system I've chosen
to replace looks like a big improvement. The reviews I've read have are
very complementary to the midrange which is always the forgotten portion
of music on a three-way system, so I'm very anxious to hear whether it's
true.

I expect reasonably high fidelity from the system. If I'm disappointed,
you will hear about it.

Stay tuned . . .

Cheers!

Mudge

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <040120081711027381%leave@me.alone>,
Curmudgeon <leave@me.alone> wrote:

> I expect reasonably high fidelity from the system. If I'm disappointed,
> you will hear about it.

Definitely report back your findings. While I don't consider myself
much of an audiophile, I do appreciate good sounding speakers, so I'm
interested to know what you think of them.

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Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

And here I thought when you said you were looking for computer speakers
it meant you wanted people to some and give a talk at your computer
club...

Re: Recommendations for Computer Speakers?

In article <jollyroger-28B65E.00135704012008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns,net >,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox,com > wrote:

> Get over yourself...

You said it. I grew up with an audiomaniac (not merely an audiophile). We
are still friends to this day. The poor man cannot enjoy music because all he
hears - and continuously analyzes - is SOUND.

The elitist/snob audiophile is to be pitied. There's SO much good music "out
there" but, unless it is an elitist-labeled, analog recording, played-back on
their own vacuum tube-powered Magneplanars, it's trash. Sad...
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