New Telefunken mics

New Telefunken mics

Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:

* w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics

* w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics

By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.

Re: New Telefunken mics


"Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com ...
> Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
>
> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.

Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine the
procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

Re: New Telefunken mics


"soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote in message
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>
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com ...
>> Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
>> everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
>> but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
>> trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
>> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
>> great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
>
> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
> the procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511
On special at Walmart? :-)) (Sorry Jenn, couldn't resist a little humour)

Cheers TT

Re: New Telefunken mics

In article <W7adnUgGforz7ZvVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@westnet . com .au>,
"TT" <TTencerNoSpAm@westnet . com .au> wrote:

> "soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> news:85adndpvJbXc9ZvVnZ2dnUVZ_sqinZ2d@giganews . com ...
> >
> > "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> > news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.c
> > om...
> >> Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> >> everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
> >>
> >> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >>
> >> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >>
> >> By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> >> but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> >> trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> >> on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> >> great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
> >
> > Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> > proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
> > the procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> > extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
> > there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
> >
> > Bob Morein
> > (310) 237-6511
> On special at Walmart? :-)) (Sorry Jenn, couldn't resist a little humour)
>
> Cheers TT

The mics were a "flashing light special" at KMart.

;-)

Re: New Telefunken mics

In article <85adndpvJbXc9ZvVnZ2dnUVZ_sqinZ2d@giganews . com >,
"soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote:

> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
> ...
> > Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> > everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
> >
> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >
> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >
> > By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> > but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> > trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> > on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> > great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
>
> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine the
> procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or is
> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?

We do receive some earmarked gifts. Our building was built largely from
gifts, and our new theater, to be completed in about a year, wouldn't be
possible without about a $1 million in gifts. But the studio upgrade,
taking place over the past year, is from categorical state funds we get
for job training programs. These are the same funds that help the
nursing and automotive programs, for example. We place a very high
percentage of students into jobs in the profession in L.A. and S.F.
This money has paid for upgrades to the studio this year, including
moving to the Digidesign D-Command, better mic preamps, a wider variety
of mics, etc. Our students get to work with great, current gear, which
makes them more employable. The studio also generates income, as they
hire our during holiday breaks and summer to area musicians to record
their things. There is a Platinum Record hanging in the studio, because
Rod Stewart's first CD of standards was mastered there. Ensembles from
other schools from S.F., L.A., Fresno, etc. also pay to come and record
their CDs. So like UCLA's basketball team supports the lacrosse team,
our recording program helps to support the smaller but very important
parts of our music program. For example, we are one of the few CA
community colleges who offer a full private lesson program and a new
chamber music program, both of which are expensive (because of the
student/teacher ratio), and both of which I run.

Re: New Telefunken mics


"Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-EBF3E5.08064217042008@newsclstr03.news.prodigy . net ...
> In article <85adndpvJbXc9ZvVnZ2dnUVZ_sqinZ2d@giganews . com >,
> "soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
>> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
>> ...
>> > Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
>> > everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
>> >
>> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>> >
>> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>> >
>> > By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
>> > but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
>> > trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
>> > on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
>> > great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
>>
>> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
>> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
>> the
>> procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
>> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or
>> is
>> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
>
> We do receive some earmarked gifts. Our building was built largely from
> gifts, and our new theater, to be completed in about a year, wouldn't be
> possible without about a $1 million in gifts. But the studio upgrade,
> taking place over the past year, is from categorical state funds we get
> for job training programs. These are the same funds that help the
> nursing and automotive programs, for example. We place a very high
> percentage of students into jobs in the profession in L.A. and S.F.
> This money has paid for upgrades to the studio this year, including
> moving to the Digidesign D-Command, better mic preamps, a wider variety
> of mics, etc. Our students get to work with great, current gear, which
> makes them more employable. The studio also generates income, as they
> hire our during holiday breaks and summer to area musicians to record
> their things. There is a Platinum Record hanging in the studio, because
> Rod Stewart's first CD of standards was mastered there. Ensembles from
> other schools from S.F., L.A., Fresno, etc. also pay to come and record
> their CDs. So like UCLA's basketball team supports the lacrosse team,
> our recording program helps to support the smaller but very important
> parts of our music program. For example, we are one of the few CA
> community colleges who offer a full private lesson program and a new
> chamber music program, both of which are expensive (because of the
> student/teacher ratio), and both of which I run.

Thanks for the info. It makes perfect sense, in terms of furthering
students' professional goals. But I am still curious. Were the Telefunkens
basically one faculty member's choice, or did you have a "mike committee"?

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

Re: New Telefunken mics

In article <Wb2dnVBzioECfZrVnZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@giganews . com >,
"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote:

> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-EBF3E5.08064217042008@newsclstr03.news.prodigy . net
> ...
> > In article <85adndpvJbXc9ZvVnZ2dnUVZ_sqinZ2d@giganews . com >,
> > "soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> >> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.
> >> com
> >> ...
> >> > Our recording program at the college just received two new mics and
> >> > everyone is very excited. The new mics are great Telefunkens:
> >> >
> >> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
> >> >
> >> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
> >> >
> >> > By the way, we have a teaching opening in the program. It's part time,
> >> > but it's a great program and a wonderful opportunity for someone. The
> >> > trick is living in this beautiful but expensive area (CA Central Coast)
> >> > on about $30,000/yr, but if you can supplement that, it should be a
> >> > great gig. Contact me offgroup if interested.
> >>
> >> Hi, Jenn. I'm just curious. How does your department's decision process
> >> proceed to buy expensive equipment that is so subjective? I can imagine
> >> the
> >> procurement procedure for utilitarian equipment, but these are so
> >> extraordinarily expensive. Does the college receive earmarked gifts? Or
> >> is
> >> there a senior faculty member whose judgement is so respected?
> >
> > We do receive some earmarked gifts. Our building was built largely from
> > gifts, and our new theater, to be completed in about a year, wouldn't be
> > possible without about a $1 million in gifts. But the studio upgrade,
> > taking place over the past year, is from categorical state funds we get
> > for job training programs. These are the same funds that help the
> > nursing and automotive programs, for example. We place a very high
> > percentage of students into jobs in the profession in L.A. and S.F.
> > This money has paid for upgrades to the studio this year, including
> > moving to the Digidesign D-Command, better mic preamps, a wider variety
> > of mics, etc. Our students get to work with great, current gear, which
> > makes them more employable. The studio also generates income, as they
> > hire our during holiday breaks and summer to area musicians to record
> > their things. There is a Platinum Record hanging in the studio, because
> > Rod Stewart's first CD of standards was mastered there. Ensembles from
> > other schools from S.F., L.A., Fresno, etc. also pay to come and record
> > their CDs. So like UCLA's basketball team supports the lacrosse team,
> > our recording program helps to support the smaller but very important
> > parts of our music program. For example, we are one of the few CA
> > community colleges who offer a full private lesson program and a new
> > chamber music program, both of which are expensive (because of the
> > student/teacher ratio), and both of which I run.
>
> Thanks for the info. It makes perfect sense, in terms of furthering
> students' professional goals. But I am still curious. Were the Telefunkens
> basically one faculty member's choice, or did you have a "mike committee"?

One faculty member's choice. We have only one full time faculty in the
recording program. He is also the Chair of the Division, until this
summer when I assume that position.

Re: New Telefunken mics

"Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
> Our recording program at the college just received two
> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> great Telefunkens:
>
> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>
> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics

Boutique items, for sure.

Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
students about performing, recording and producing music in the real world.

But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!

Re: New Telefunken mics


"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message
news:eqydneGNUa4S0ZrVnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast . com ...
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.
>
> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> world.
>
> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!

Can you imagine arriving at your recording venue with your new Telefunken
mikes and finding out that the guy who knows the combination of the suitcase
lock is out of town--or perhaps couldn't remember the combination?

Norm Strong

Re: New Telefunken mics

On Apr 17, 8:11 am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop . com > wrote:
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac . com > wrote in message
>
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy=
. com
>
> > Our recording program at the college just received two
> > new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> > great Telefunkens:
>
> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show product.php?item=3&cat=mic=
s
>
> > * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show product.php?item=7&cat=mic=
s
>
> Boutique items, for sure.

Telefunken microphones are not generally considered "boutique" items
any more than Neumann microphones are.

> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real world=
.

Maybe you should apply to teach at Jenn's school. I'm sure the kids
would love you.

And you no doubt have all the experience that they're looking for.
Say, why not apply? You don't have to accept the position if it is
offered to you and we could all use a good laugh.

> But hey, the new mics  have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and th=
at
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!

Poor GOIA, having to record with microphones taken from old portable
cassette recorders!

Tube microphones are frequently used at top recording studios, GOIA.
Perhaps you should visit one sometime. LOL!

Re: New Telefunken mics



"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message
news:eqydneGNUa4S0ZrVnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast . com ...
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.
>
> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> world.
>
> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>

Congratulations Jenn on a fine acquisition.

Iain

Re: New Telefunken mics

On 18 Apr, 03:22, "Iain Churches" <Iai...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop . com > wrote in message
>
> news:eqydneGNUa4S0ZrVnZ2dnUVZ rOqnZ2d@comcast . com ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac . com > wrote in message
> >news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodig=
y . com
> >> Our recording program at the college just received two
> >> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
> >> great Telefunkens:
>
> >> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show product.php?item=3&cat=mi=
cs
>
> >> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show product.php?item=7&cat=mi=
cs
>
> > Boutique items, for sure.
>
> > Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> > students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> > world.
>
> > But hey, the new mics  have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and =
that
> > must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>
> Congratulations Jenn on a fine acquisition.
>

How true, that was a highly polished Kroo-turd.

Re: New Telefunken mics


"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message
news:eqydneGNUa4S0ZrVnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast . com ...
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>> great Telefunkens:
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>
>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>
> Boutique items, for sure.
>
> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
> world.
>
> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and that
> must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>

Ah, envy raises it's head in Arny's life once again. We will now be
subjected to a month of off- and on- again posts about Behringer and Studio
Project mics being are just as good, and why all mics above $400 are evil
wastes of money.... . es pecially those using....*gasp*.....tubes.

Re: New Telefunken mics

"Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast . net > wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message
> news:eqydneGNUa4S0ZrVnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast . com ...
>> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
>> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>>> great Telefunkens:
>>>
>>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>>
>>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>> Boutique items, for sure.

>> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the
>> expense to teach students about performing, recording
>> and producing music in the real world.

>> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a
>> fancy name, and that must ring some deep-pocketed
>> dilettante's bell!

> Ah, envy raises it's head in Arny's life once again.

Interesting how Harry sees only vice in my comments.

> We will now be subjected to a month of off- and on- again
> posts about Behringer and Studio Project mics being are
> just as good,

Surely you jest.

> and why all mics above $400 are evil wastes of money.

Hmm, I just bought 4 mics with list prices of $488.50 each.

* w w w .countryman . com /store/product.asp?id=92&catid=10

>... . es pecially those using....*gasp*.....tubes.

In their way my new mics have tubes - but you'd have to see them to
understand. ;-)

Re: New Telefunken mics


"Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast . net > wrote in message
news:KZKdnRdxPcZpMJXVnZ2dnUVZ_qmlnZ2d@comcast . com ...
>
> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message
> news:eqydneGNUa4S0ZrVnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast . com ...
>> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@mac . com > wrote in message
>> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS-364211.09034716042008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy . com
>>> Our recording program at the college just received two
>>> new mics and everyone is very excited. The new mics are
>>> great Telefunkens:
>>>
>>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=3&cat=mics
>>>
>>> * w w w .telefunkenusa . com /products/show_product.php?item=7&cat=mics
>>
>> Boutique items, for sure.
>>
>> Equipment like this does little commensurate with the expense to teach
>> students about performing, recording and producing music in the real
>> world.
>>
>> But hey, the new mics have tubes, a high price and a fancy name, and
>> that must ring some deep-pocketed dilettante's bell!
>>
>
> Ah, envy raises it's head in Arny's life once again. We will now be
> subjected to a month of off- and on- again posts about Behringer and
> Studio Project mics being are just as good, and why all mics above $400
> are evil wastes of money.... . es pecially those using....*gasp*.....tubes.
I have several times considered buying a tube mike. I looked for web
experiences of all the candidates under $1K, and was chastened by the highly
mixed opinions. The Rode NT2000, which I'm very happy with, and which
received excellent reviews, is also available in a tube version, and is
notably one of the quietest tube mikes in existence. But sadly, the opinions
seem split between praise and damnation. Ditto for the rest of the
offerings, except that they are typically distinguished by excessive noise.

So the tube does something much more than subtle to the sound, as does the
transformer, if one is used (some tube mikes use bipolar direct coupled
outputs.) I suspect that the Telefunkens work for some very specific voices,
and perhaps, some instruments. High coloration is a way of life for pop
music recordists, and knowing when to use these tools could be a great
advantage. But I would expect that a cheap Behringer mike is more neutral.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511