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Niche or segment?

Reply from: MiNe 109
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 15:11
Niche or segment?

New York Times
April 18, 2008
Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
By BEN SISARIO

...

Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and zeros - vinyl
records, for instance, which have a habit of turning casual fans into
collectors - have proved a salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the
owner of Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of Record
Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of his music sales.

"That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin said, "but it'll
be a giant niche you can make a lot of money on."

Reply from: Vinylanach
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 18:28
Re: Niche or segment?

On Apr 18, 6:11=EF=BF=BDam, MiNe 109 <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
> New York Times
> April 18, 2008
> Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
> By BEN SISARIO
>
> ...
>
> Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and zeros - vinyl
> records, for instance, which have a habit of turning casual fans into
> collectors - have proved a salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the
> owner of Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of Record
> Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of his music sales.
>
> "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin said, "but it'll
> be a giant niche you can make a lot of money on."

I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a homeless
dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks to LPs, he lives in a
big house on the top of a hill overlooking the same town.

Boon

Reply from: Arny Krueger
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 19:09
Re: Niche or segment?

"Vinylanach" <vinylanach@aol . com > wrote in message
news:06bc7152-1c46-4497-bc51-50a31ef39673@t12g2000prg.googlegroups . com
> On Apr 18, 6:11?am, MiNe 109
> <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
>> New York Times
>> April 18, 2008
>> Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
>> By BEN SISARIO
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and
>> zeros - vinyl records, for instance, which have a habit
>> of turning casual fans into collectors - have proved a
>> salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the owner of
>> Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of
>> Record Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of
>> his music sales.
>>
>> "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin
>> said, "but it'll be a giant niche you can make a lot of
>> money on."
>
> I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a
> homeless dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks
> to LPs, he lives in a big house on the top of a hill
> overlooking the same town.

I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and record companies that
we never hear of that closed their doors because they pinned their hopes on
vinyl.



Reply from: WindsorFox<SS>
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:40
Re: Niche or segment?

Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Vinylanach" <vinylanach@aol . com > wrote in message
> news:06bc7152-1c46-4497-bc51-50a31ef39673@t12g2000prg.googlegroups . com
>> On Apr 18, 6:11?am, MiNe 109
>> <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
>>> New York Times
>>> April 18, 2008
>>> Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
>>> By BEN SISARIO
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and
>>> zeros - vinyl records, for instance, which have a habit
>>> of turning casual fans into collectors - have proved a
>>> salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the owner of
>>> Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of
>>> Record Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of
>>> his music sales.
>>>
>>> "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin
>>> said, "but it'll be a giant niche you can make a lot of
>>> money on."
>> I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a
>> homeless dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks
>> to LPs, he lives in a big house on the top of a hill
>> overlooking the same town.
>
> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and record companies that
> we never hear of that closed their doors because they pinned their hopes on
> vinyl.
>
>

But that goes for *any* small business. If you don't do it
correctly, you lose.

--




"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous
mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it
is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."


Reply from: Arny Krueger
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 23:31
Re: Niche or segment?

"WindsorFox<SS>" <darkshado666@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:fuatgd$3kl$2@posting2.glorb . com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "Vinylanach" <vinylanach@aol . com > wrote in message
>> news:06bc7152-1c46-4497-bc51-50a31ef39673@t12g2000prg.googlegroups . com
>>> On Apr 18, 6:11?am, MiNe 109
>>> <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
>>>> New York Times
>>>> April 18, 2008
>>>> Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
>>>> By BEN SISARIO
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and
>>>> zeros - vinyl records, for instance, which have a habit
>>>> of turning casual fans into collectors - have proved a
>>>> salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the owner of
>>>> Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers
>>>> of Record Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a
>>>> quarter of his music sales.
>>>>
>>>> "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin
>>>> said, "but it'll be a giant niche you can make a lot of
>>>> money on."
>>> I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a
>>> homeless dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks
>>> to LPs, he lives in a big house on the top of a hill
>>> overlooking the same town.

>> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and
>> record companies that we never hear of that closed their
>> doors because they pinned their hopes on vinyl.

> But that goes for *any* small business. If you don't
> do it correctly, you lose.

As does success. I would go so far as to say that Chad Kassem owes the LP
little or nothing. He owes his success to good business practices.




Reply from: Clyde Slick
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:48
Re: Niche or segment?

On 18 Apr, 13:09, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop . com > wrote:


>
> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and record companies that
> we never hear of that closed their doors because they pinned their hopes on
> vinyl.-

Speaking of you thinking of things you never heard of,
you must be thinking of good sounding music.

Reply from: MINe109
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 17:04
Re: Niche or segment?

On Apr 18, 12:09 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop . com > wrote:
> "Vinylanach" <vinylan...@aol . com > wrote in message
>
> news:06bc7152-1c46-4497-bc51-50a31ef39673@t12g2000prg.googlegroups . com
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 6:11?am, MiNe 109
> > <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
> >> New York Times
> >> April 18, 2008
> >> Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
> >> By BEN SISARIO
>
> >> ...
>
> >> Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and
> >> zeros - vinyl records, for instance, which have a habit
> >> of turning casual fans into collectors - have proved a
> >> salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the owner of
> >> Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of
> >> Record Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of
> >> his music sales.
>
> >> "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin
> >> said, "but it'll be a giant niche you can make a lot of
> >> money on."
>
> > I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a
> > homeless dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks
> > to LPs, he lives in a big house on the top of a hill
> > overlooking the same town.
>
> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and record companies that
> we never hear of that closed their doors because they pinned their hopes on
> vinyl.

They're mentioned at the top of the article. Besides, we're more
likely to hear about famous big retailers that went belly-up after
abandoning vinyl.

Stephen

Reply from: Arny Krueger
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 17:32
Re: Niche or segment?

"MINe109" <smcelroy2@austin.rr . com > wrote in message
news:f531ece1-515d-4f92-8cc2-9594b9d59956@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups . com
> On Apr 18, 12:09 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop . com >
> wrote:
>> "Vinylanach" <vinylan...@aol . com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:06bc7152-1c46-4497-bc51-50a31ef39673@t12g2000prg.googlegroups . com
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 18, 6:11?am, MiNe 109
>>> <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
>>>> New York Times
>>>> April 18, 2008
>>>> Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
>>>> By BEN SISARIO
>>
>>>> ...
>>
>>>> Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and
>>>> zeros - vinyl records, for instance, which have a habit
>>>> of turning casual fans into collectors - have proved a
>>>> salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the owner of
>>>> Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers
>>>> of Record Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a
>>>> quarter of his music sales.
>>
>>>> "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin
>>>> said, "but it'll be a giant niche you can make a lot of
>>>> money on."
>>
>>> I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a
>>> homeless dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks
>>> to LPs, he lives in a big house on the top of a hill
>>> overlooking the same town.
>>
>> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and
>> record companies that we never hear of that closed their
>> doors because they pinned their hopes on vinyl.
>
> They're mentioned at the top of the article. Besides,
> we're more likely to hear about famous big retailers that
> went belly-up after abandoning vinyl.

No doubt they were well on their way to go belly-up, anyway.

Pumping vinyl could be called "Any port in a storm".



Reply from: Eeyore
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 17:21
Re: Niche or segment?



Arny Krueger wrote:

> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and record companies that
> we never hear of that closed their doors because they pinned their hopes on
> vinyl.

I was going to link to an example of same but it seems even the website has
gone now.
* w w w .goyamusic . com /

Maybe someone else will have better luck ?

Graham



Reply from: Arny Krueger
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 17:36
Re: Niche or segment?

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail . com > wrote in
message news:480A0E17.E06E0280@hotmail . com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking of all the nameless small retailers and
>> record companies that we never hear of that closed their
>> doors because they pinned their hopes on vinyl.
>
> I was going to link to an example of same but it seems
> even the website has gone now.
> * w w w .goyamusic . com /
>
> Maybe someone else will have better luck ?

Yes, and the goya music home page at that URL says in part:

"It is with great sadness that we have to announce that Goya Music
Distribution is no more.
Unfortunately, we have not been able to survive the demise of vinyl sales
and the onslaught of the digital age."

Also:

* w w w .dance-industries . com /view_interview.php?ID=3

"With regards the music industry as a whole, what with the recent events of
mp3's & the demise of vinyl sales & music in general..."

and

* a.hatena.ne.jp/OhioKnox/

"Unfortunately, we have not been able to survive the demise of vinyl sales
and the onslaught of the digital age" (quoting the goyamusic site).





Reply from: MiNe 109
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:28
Re: Niche or segment?

In article
<06bc7152-1c46-4497-bc51-50a31ef39673@t12g2000prg.googlegroups . com >,
Vinylanach <vinylanach@aol . com > wrote:

> On Apr 18, 6:11?am, MiNe 109 <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > wrote:
> > New York Times
> > April 18, 2008
> > Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
> > By BEN SISARIO
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and zeros - vinyl
> > records, for instance, which have a habit of turning casual fans into
> > collectors - have proved a salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the
> > owner of Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of Record
> > Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of his music sales.
> >
> > "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin said, "but it'll
> > be a giant niche you can make a lot of money on."
>
> I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a homeless
> dishwasher in a small Kansas city. Now, thanks to LPs, he lives in a
> big house on the top of a hill overlooking the same town.

For brick-and-mortar types, Saturday is National Record Store Day:

* w w w .news8austin . com /content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=206025

Stephen

Reply from: George M. Middius
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:39
Re: Niche or segment?



MiNe 109 said:

>For brick-and-mortar types, Saturday is National Record Store Day:

Some scholarly type might consider researching why the Krooborg has a
pathological fear of record stores.



Reply from: Clyde Slick
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:52
Re: Niche or segment?

On 18 Apr, 15:39, George M. Middius <cmndr geo...@comcast . net > wrote:
> MiNe 109 said:
>
> >For brick-and-mortar types, Saturday is National Record Store Day:
>
> Some scholarly type might consider researching why the Krooborg has a
> pathological fear of record stores.

this was the lp that traumatized him for life:


* w w w .eaglezen . com /images/gallerypics/color/monsters.jpg

Reply from: Clyde Slick
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:47
Re: Niche or segment?

On 18 Apr, 12:28, Vinylanach <vinylan...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 18, 6:11=EF=BF=BDam, MiNe 109 =C2=A0 <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com > w=
rote:
>
> > New York Times
> > April 18, 2008
> > Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
> > By BEN SISARIO
>
> > ...
>
> > Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and zeros - vinyl
> > records, for instance, which have a habit of turning casual fans into
> > collectors - have proved a salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, the=

> > owner of Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of Record=

> > Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of his music sales.
>
> > "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin said, "but it'll
> > be a giant niche you can make a lot of money on."
>
> I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a homeless
> dishwasher in a small Kansas city. =C2=A0Now, thanks to LPs, he lives in a=

> big house on the top of a hill overlooking the same town.
>
> Boon

Arny is looking for professional audio work.
Maybe Mr Kassem needs his own dishwasher


Reply from: Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 13:14
Re: Niche or segment?

On Apr 18, 2:47=C2=A0pm, Clyde Slick <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> On 18 Apr, 12:28, Vinylanach <vinylan...@aol . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 6:11=EF=BF=BDam, MiNe 109 =C2=A0 <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr . com >=
wrote:
>
> > > New York Times
> > > April 18, 2008
> > > Record Stores Fight to Be Long-Playing
> > > By BEN SISARIO
>
> > > ...
>
> > > Products that aren't fundamentally made up of ones and zeros - vinyl
> > > records, for instance, which have a habit of turning casual fans into
> > > collectors - have proved a salvation for many retailers. Eric Levin, t=
he
> > > owner of Criminal Records in Atlanta and one of the organizers of Reco=
rd
> > > Store Day, said vinyl accounted for a quarter of his music sales.
>
> > > "That may only be a niche as we go forward," Mr. Levin said, "but it'l=
l
> > > be a giant niche you can make a lot of money on."
>
> > I keep thinking of Chad Kassem, and how he was once a homeless
> > dishwasher in a small Kansas city. =C2=A0Now, thanks to LPs, he lives in=
a
> > big house on the top of a hill overlooking the same town.
>
> > Boon
>
> Arny is looking for professional audio work.

He is a highly-paid recording professional.

Just ask him. LOL!


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