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Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 04:31
Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

If so, please elaborate.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: Clyde Slick
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 05:25
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

On 23 Apr, 22:31, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wrote:
> If so, please elaborate.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511

yeah, A laptop is my digital music server.
i rip using EAC compressed in Flac format.
the whole library is stored on a 500Gb external drive
but I can shuffe about a third of my total files in and out of my pc
hard drive.
It is filled les than 1/3, to 134 Gb of music.

i am temporarily using a cheap DAC (Konnect8) connected by firewire.
I have a new DAC on order, a Brigatta tube DAC form
PAcific Valve and Electric.
Its a modified Lite Audio 60 DAC.
One mod is that it is a USB DAC, but, it also accepts optical

I plan to go direct from my pc to the DAC by USB, despite USB
shortcomings.
But, at some time, I will also try going firewire from my pc into
some typer of adapter/interface that has optical out (such as by
Hagerman).

THe PC is a last years model TOSHIBA Pentium Dual Core SAtellite 183
mHz.
It was only $476 ON uBid as a factory repack.

It is dedicated to nothing else but playingmusic , so there is not
relatively much background activity going on.
I do my ripping on my other laptop, swapping an external drive between
the two

Reply from: MINe109
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 05:48
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

On Apr 23, 9:31 pm, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wrote:
> If so, please elaborate.

No, but my PC has its own sound system: Yamaha CAVIT USB preamp/NHT
Pro A-10 monitors.

Stephen


Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 06:48
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?


"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:QOSdnfEysdFgbZLVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews . com ...
> If so, please elaborate.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511
Thanks, Art and Steve, for your replies. I built a "PVR", (personal video
recorder) with one of the new motherboards that has HDMI video output and
specialized circuitry for decoding high definition video. It was built
according to principles described on * w w w .silentpcreview . com / . It is
very near the threshold of audibility.

I am a devotee of synthesized surround. Since the motherboard has 5.1 audio
of alleged hiqh quality, I have been wondering if there is any software that
would replace the stack of HT processors which I keep in order to listen to
the sound fields encoded in rom. Thus far, I have found nothing at the level
of what Yamaha or Sony provide, consisting of sophisticated hall ambience
measurement/simulation.

Art, I couldn't bear to do all that ripping without a redundant storage
media, such as a RAID, or at least a backup disk.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: MINe109
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 15:13
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

On Apr 23, 11:48 pm, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wrote:
> "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>
> news:QOSdnfEysdFgbZLVnZ2dnUVZ vCdnZ2d@giganews . com ...> If so, please elaborate.
>
> > Bob Morein
> > (310) 237-6511
>
> Thanks, Art and Steve, for your replies. I built a "PVR", (personal video
> recorder) with one of the new motherboards that has HDMI video output and
> specialized circuitry for decoding high definition video. It was built
> according to principles described on * w w w .silentpcreview . com /. It is
> very near the threshold of audibility.
>
> I am a devotee of synthesized surround. Since the motherboard has 5.1 audio
> of alleged hiqh quality, I have been wondering if there is any software that
> would replace the stack of HT processors which I keep in order to listen to
> the sound fields encoded in rom. Thus far, I have found nothing at the level
> of what Yamaha or Sony provide, consisting of sophisticated hall ambience
> measurement/simulation.

Not my area of expertise, but google shows this:

* w w w .holistiks . com /amphiotik/modules.php?name= hes Documents&file= demos

Stereo, and not all successful.

Don't many soundcards have DD and DTS built-in?

<snip>

Stephen

Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 15:39
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?


"MINe109" <smcelroy2@austin.rr . com > wrote in message
news:d2083df0-5204-4007-b128-7b40249567db@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
> On Apr 23, 11:48 pm, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wrote:
>> "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:QOSdnfEysdFgbZLVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews . com ...> If so, please
>> elaborate.
>>
>> > Bob Morein
>> > (310) 237-6511
>>
>> Thanks, Art and Steve, for your replies. I built a "PVR", (personal video
>> recorder) with one of the new motherboards that has HDMI video output and
>> specialized circuitry for decoding high definition video. It was built
>> according to principles described on * w w w .silentpcreview . com /. It is
>> very near the threshold of audibility.
>>
>> I am a devotee of synthesized surround. Since the motherboard has 5.1
>> audio
>> of alleged hiqh quality, I have been wondering if there is any software
>> that
>> would replace the stack of HT processors which I keep in order to listen
>> to
>> the sound fields encoded in rom. Thus far, I have found nothing at the
>> level
>> of what Yamaha or Sony provide, consisting of sophisticated hall ambience
>> measurement/simulation.
>
> Not my area of expertise, but google shows this:
>
> * w w w .holistiks . com /amphiotik/modules.php?name=_hes_Documents&file=_demos
>
> Stereo, and not all successful.

I'll take your word for it. I've heard "virtual surround" from dedicated
boxes, and been unimpressed.

>
> Don't many soundcards have DD and DTS built-in?

There are no particular hardware requirements for DD and DTS. On a computer,
DD and DTS decoding are implemented as software. See * ac3filter . net /.
AC3filter is a necessary component of a GB-PVR based Tivo-like device:
* w w w .gbpvr . com / My HT computer can play DTS disks, but my particular
interest is in synthesized surround, because it enhances my large, old
library. I feel it's a pity that sound field synthesis never gained
traction with hifi enthusiasts.

>
> <snip>
>
> Stephen

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: George M. Middius
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 15:30
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?



Soundhaspriority said:

>I am a devotee of synthesized surround.

Your time is at hand.

* w w w .sciencedaily . com /releases/2005/03/050325235818.htm



Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 15:47
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?


"George M. Middius" <cmndr_george@comcast . net > wrote in message
news:jr2114lcph3rsam6ua1ltflfirl1curt9l@4ax . com ...
>
>
> Soundhaspriority said:
>
>>I am a devotee of synthesized surround.
>
> Your time is at hand.
>
> * w w w .sciencedaily . com /releases/2005/03/050325235818.htm
>
I love that stuff, but, as you know, "my time" has passed. I'm one of the
last guys standing with a hifi system that requires three racks and a dual
core tower. Back in the early 90's, the hifi community was in a "gee whiz"
mode, willing, if only for a moment, to try anything. Now hifi's future
reads like the "death of story" in Hollywood.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: Walt
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 16:20
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

Soundhaspriority wrote:
> If so, please elaborate.

Sure. I run the output of the PC into an aux input of my stereo so that
I can listen to internet radio anywhere in the house, mosty w w w .pandora . com

It's mid-fi at best (128 bps MP3), but it allows me to discover new
artists or just put on background music that plays endlessly without me
having to get up to change the CD or LP.

Since most PC's are noisy I won't have one in the listening room(s) -
what's the point of 90db S/N when you're listening at 85 dbSPL and the
computer fan is whirring away at 50 dbSPL?

//Walt


Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 17:29
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?


"Walt" <walt_askier@SHOESyahoo . com > wrote in message
news:ZG0Qj.122456$fB7.30729@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews . com ...
> Soundhaspriority wrote:
>> If so, please elaborate.
>
> Sure. I run the output of the PC into an aux input of my stereo so that I
> can listen to internet radio anywhere in the house, mosty w w w .pandora . com
>
> It's mid-fi at best (128 bps MP3), but it allows me to discover new
> artists or just put on background music that plays endlessly without me
> having to get up to change the CD or LP.
>
> Since most PC's are noisy I won't have one in the listening room(s) -
> what's the point of 90db S/N when you're listening at 85 dbSPL and the
> computer fan is whirring away at 50 dbSPL?
>
> //Walt
>
You're right, but it is possible to construct a silent PC. With Zalman,
Scythe, Silenx, and Antec components engineered for quietness, I have a PC
which is at the threshold of audibility. It is inaudible in the presence of
any kind of recorded music, played at any listenable level.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: Arny Krueger
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 04:22
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:xuSdnTBii9bpOo3VnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@giganews . com

> You're right, but it is possible to construct a silent PC.

Very unlikely. Even if you eliminated all of the fans, you'd still be stuck
with any number of incidental noses, particularly in the power supply and
hard drives.

> With Zalman, Scythe, Silenx, and Antec components
> engineered for quietness, I have a PC which is at the
> threshold of audibility.

I seriously doubt that this PC has noise at 1 meter that is 0 dB or below.
If it is as good as 10 dB, I'd be very surprised.

> It is inaudible in the presence
> of any kind of recorded music, played at any listenable
> level.

Whatever that means. Basically, you're depending on the music to mask the
non-trival amounts of noise that your PC creates.



Reply from: George M. Middius
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 04:30
Two days 'til chruch, Arnii ;-)




The Krooborg tries some of that old BorgSmugSnot on Usenet. It works so
well against the gullible parishioners who buy up his el-crappo
kompyooturds.

>> With Zalman, Scythe, Silenx, and Antec components
>> engineered for quietness, I have a PC [that] is at the
>> threshold of audibility.
>
>I seriously doubt that this PC has noise at 1 meter that is 0 dB or below.
>If it is as good as 10 dB, I'd be very surprised.

Not to belittle your expertiese™, Turdball, but you don't have to
posture on RAO in order to cover your real-world lies. None of those
pea-brained sheep who buy your turd-boxes for $399 is smart enough to
figure out Usenet. Whatever is or isn't possible in the hands of Smart
Guys is completely irrelavant™ to your kompyooturd-flogging "business".
The certain knowledge of your incompetence is never going to leak out
from Usenet into the closed circle of you victims -- er, customers -- so
don't even waste your keystrokes on strawborgs.




Reply from: Lionel
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 20:12
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

Walt a écrit :
> Soundhaspriority wrote:
>> If so, please elaborate.
>
> Sure. I run the output of the PC into an aux input of my stereo so that
> I can listen to internet radio anywhere in the house, mosty w w w .pandora . com
>
> It's mid-fi at best (128 bps MP3), but it allows me to discover new
> artists or just put on background music that plays endlessly without me
> having to get up to change the CD or LP.
>
> Since most PC's are noisy I won't have one in the listening room(s) -
> what's the point of 90db S/N when you're listening at 85 dbSPL and the
> computer fan is whirring away at 50 dbSPL?


This is a problem that I have solved with this gadget :
* w w w .metronic . com /index2.php?p=produits&lang=FR&idcat=5&page=3
It works correctly and it's not really expensive.

Reply from: AZ Nomad
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 21:08
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:20:42 -0400, Walt <walt_askier@SHOESyahoo . com > wrote:
>Soundhaspriority wrote:
>> If so, please elaborate.

>Sure. I run the output of the PC into an aux input of my stereo so that
>I can listen to internet radio anywhere in the house, mosty w w w .pandora . com

>It's mid-fi at best (128 bps MP3), but it allows me to discover new
>artists or just put on background music that plays endlessly without me
>having to get up to change the CD or LP.

>Since most PC's are noisy I won't have one in the listening room(s) -
>what's the point of 90db S/N when you're listening at 85 dbSPL and the
>computer fan is whirring away at 50 dbSPL?

It is a simple matter to replace the fans with quiet units. The PC in my HT
setup is inaudible at distances greater than about 4'.

In my BR, I went one step further: the system's case and cpu fans run below
900rpm and it doesn't have a hard drive. It boots off the network. It is
inaudible beyond 2'.


Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 21:09
Re: Anybody have a PC in their sound system?


"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX . com > wrote in message
news:slrng11mki.9ct.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox . net ...
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:20:42 -0400, Walt <walt_askier@SHOESyahoo . com >
> wrote:
>>Soundhaspriority wrote:
>>> If so, please elaborate.
>
>>Sure. I run the output of the PC into an aux input of my stereo so that
>>I can listen to internet radio anywhere in the house, mosty
>>w w w .pandora . com
>
>>It's mid-fi at best (128 bps MP3), but it allows me to discover new
>>artists or just put on background music that plays endlessly without me
>>having to get up to change the CD or LP.
>
>>Since most PC's are noisy I won't have one in the listening room(s) -
>>what's the point of 90db S/N when you're listening at 85 dbSPL and the
>>computer fan is whirring away at 50 dbSPL?
>
> It is a simple matter to replace the fans with quiet units. The PC in my
> HT
> setup is inaudible at distances greater than about 4'.
>
> In my BR, I went one step further: the system's case and cpu fans run
> below
> 900rpm and it doesn't have a hard drive. It boots off the network. It is
> inaudible beyond 2'.
>
And there is one maker of inaudible hard drives, although they do have to be
shockmounted: Samsung.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511




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