Sound quality of "Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC" music.....

Sound quality of "Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC" music.....

Just got a new CD and the following was printed on the cover: Copy
protected & pre-ripped for PC". So........because of the copy
protection, has the sound quality taken a dive on this CD, or exactly
what does that statement mean, audio wise?
TIA.

Re: Sound quality of "Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC" music.....



Kruse wrote:

> Just got a new CD and the following was printed on the cover: Copy
> protected & pre-ripped for PC". So........because of the copy
> protection, has the sound quality taken a dive on this CD, or exactly
> what does that statement mean, audio wise?

What it means amongst other things is that it's not a proper 'red book'
audio CD and can't carry the Philips licenced 'CD' logo. Does it ?

As for the tracks that you can copy to your CD they will be of lower than
CD quality and probably have a tag set in the file to stop them being
further copied. The actual files on the CD that you can play on a real CD
player *ought* to be of the normal quality but heaven knows what tricks
the 'record companies' are up to now.

Graham

Re: Sound quality of "Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC" music.....

On May 1, 2:19 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail . com >
wrote:

> What it means amongst other things is that it's not a proper 'red book'
> audio CD and can't carry the Philips licenced 'CD' logo. Does it ?
>

FWIW, it is a "Best of ZZ Top", pressed in Russia. I figured it was to
obviously stop the piracy
in a country known for just that. Thanks.

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"Kruse" <kruse@kansas . net > wrote in message
news:11cbb9a8-1dcf-4324-b7b2-76eab7503b68@m36g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
> On May 1, 2:19 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail . com >
> wrote:
>
>> What it means amongst other things is that it's not a proper 'red book'
>> audio CD and can't carry the Philips licenced 'CD' logo. Does it ?
>>
>
> FWIW, it is a "Best of ZZ Top", pressed in Russia. I figured it was to
> obviously stop the piracy
> in a country known for just that. Thanks.

At worst, it could contain a piece of software called a "rootkit":
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal

I'd leave it alone.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

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"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote

> At worst, it could contain a piece of software called a "rootkit":
> * en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal

Possibly, but I doubt it's of the XCP variety.

Still, it may be MediaMax related, in which case this is useful reading.
* w w w .cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/

Or if you wish to delve further into the subject, try...
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control

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"yellowmattercustard" <yellowmatter@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:2aSdnTkT4OvUgYfVnZ2dnUVZ_tWtnZ2d@giganews . com ...
>
> "Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere . com > wrote
>
>> At worst, it could contain a piece of software called a "rootkit":
>> * en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal
>
> Possibly, but I doubt it's of the XCP variety.
>
> Still, it may be MediaMax related, in which case this is useful reading.
> * w w w .cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/
>
> Or if you wish to delve further into the subject, try...
> * en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control
>
Kruse says it's Russian, which indicates extra caution. Malevolent hacking
is as available there as fissionable nuclear material.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

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"Kruse" <kruse@kansas . net > wrote in message
news:1db9daa0-becb-47fd-b867-fd66c9c05c58@24g2000hsh.googlegroups . com

> Just got a new CD and the following was printed on the
> cover: Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC".

I speculate that this is a dual-session CD with both an audio session and a
data session on the same disc.

The data session is set up to capture a typical PC CD ROM, ultimately
putting up a menu that allows you to do something with MP3 or WMA versions
of the audio tracks. On some PCs this could keep you from ripping the audio
tracks.

> So........because of the copy protection, has the sound
> quality taken a dive on this CD,

The audio tracks that a CD drive sees are probably OK. The stuff that the
data tracks try to force on you may not be so good.

It's not a red or orange book CD so it is arguably not a CD at all.

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Arny Krueger wrote:

> "Kruse" <kruse@kansas . net > wrote
>
> > Just got a new CD and the following was printed on the
> > cover: Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC".
>
> I speculate that this is a dual-session CD with both an audio session and a
> data session on the same disc.

That's how I read it too.


> The data session is set up to capture a typical PC CD ROM, ultimately
> putting up a menu that allows you to do something with MP3 or WMA versions
> of the audio tracks. On some PCs this could keep you from ripping the audio
> tracks.
>
> > So........because of the copy protection, has the sound
> > quality taken a dive on this CD,
>
> The audio tracks that a CD drive sees are probably OK. The stuff that the
> data tracks try to force on you may not be so good.
>
> It's not a red or orange book CD so it is arguably not a CD at all.

It would qualify as a CD-ROM but not an audio CD.

Graham

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Arnii "Shit for Dinner" Kroofeces battles with Donkey for supremacy at
the nerds' table.

>I speculate that this is a dual-session CD
>The audio tracks that a CD drive sees
>so it is arguably not a CD at all.

Note to OP: Arnii Krooborg is Usenet's leading expert on customizing
computers through fecal enhancement. Consider the source.

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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message
news:XpadnfW5k49aRITVnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast . com ...

Ah so you're back from your binge session eh? Want to mistake anyone else
here for me today? Are there any apologies forthcoming after the tirade of
unwarranted abuse you heaped on me recently?

So please explain? Were you inebriated, drugged or psychotic when you
abused someone else mistaking them for me?

So I take it we won't be seeing you at aus.hi-fi for a while then I gather
after the total fool you made of yourself the other day.

So please Arny get well soon and to help the healing process would you like
me to copy your post to this group? I'm sure your pals here would love to
see it ;-) I know George is very fond of seeing what a total idiot you can
be :-))

All the best TT (the real one, not Ruff)

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TT wrote:

> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop . com > wrote in message

< so what did Arny write ? Enquiring minds need to know ! >


> Ah so you're back from your binge session eh?

You're accusing Arny of alcoholism ?

Graham

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Poofie lurches toward the bar and apologizes for the Krooborg's
filthfulness.

>> Ah so you're back from your binge session eh?
>
>You're accusing Arny of alcoholism ?

There there, Poofie. Nobody's picking on poor Arnii Kroofeces. Go back
to your paddock and wait for Uncle Bizzum to get busy with you.

Re: Sound quality of "Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC" music.....


"Kruse" <kruse@kansas . net > wrote in message
news:1db9daa0-becb-47fd-b867-fd66c9c05c58@24g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
> Just got a new CD and the following was printed on the cover: Copy
> protected & pre-ripped for PC". So........because of the copy
> protection, has the sound quality taken a dive on this CD, or exactly
> what does that statement mean, audio wise?

Does it have a Ck logo on it?
Did it try to install a player app on your pc?

Re: Sound quality of "Copy protected & pre-ripped for PC" music.....

Kruse said:

> because of the copy
> protection, has the sound quality taken a dive on this CD,
>
How does it sound to you?
--
Ken

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On May 1, 4:10 pm, UnsteadyKen <unsteady...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> How does it sound to you?
> --
> Ken


I haven't had time to play it on a good stereo. Maybe this weekend.
All I've been able to do so far is to play it on a $20 CD player
through some cheap computer speakers at work.
(Spare me the hardships. If I brought in a better player/speakers,
somebody would rip them off!!!)

I collect Pilot tube audio and this weekend we'll try to see how it
sounds over that.
BTW, I don't see the CK logo and I'll scan it for any worms/spam/or
viruses when I got some time. Just for curiosity,
I might see how easy it is to copy on an old Windows 98 computer that
is no longer hooked to the internet.