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mac and fireface

Reply from: eliransegev@yahoo . com
Date: 04 May, 17:55
i have a fireface400 and that's a long time i want to buy myself a
macbook so i can record and work outdoors.
the problem is that i noticed (in apple and rme forum) that the latest
macs has a firewire issue interfacing with rme fireface series.
does anyone can tell what he knows about it?
is there a solution cmming up?
any workaround?

is it the end between rme fireface users to macbooks?




Reply from: Scott Dorsey
Date: 05 May, 15:47
<eliransegev@yahoo . com > wrote:
>i have a fireface400 and that's a long time i want to buy myself a
>macbook so i can record and work outdoors.
>the problem is that i noticed (in apple and rme forum) that the latest
>macs has a firewire issue interfacing with rme fireface series.
>does anyone can tell what he knows about it?
>is there a solution cmming up?
>any workaround?

There is probably not a solution coming up soon, because Apple is not
really considering it critical.

>is it the end between rme fireface users to macbooks?

It's not just the RME fireface... a lot of interfaces are having trouble
with the Mac firewire chipset. And it's a chipset that some PC motherboards
have used also.

Buy an older Mac and you'll be fine. They are rugged and last a good while.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Reply from: eliransegev@yahoo . com
Date: 07 May, 11:44
On 5 =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99, 16:47, klu...@panix . com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> =C2=A0<eliranse...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> >i have a fireface400 and that's a long time i want to buy myself a
> >macbook so i can record and work outdoors.
> >the problem is that i noticed (in apple and rme forum) that the latest
> >macs has a firewire issue interfacing with rme fireface series.
> >does anyone can tell what he knows about it?
> >is there a solution cmming up?
> >any workaround?
>
> There is probably not a solution coming up soon, because Apple is not
> really considering it critical.
>
> >is it the end between rme fireface users to macbooks?
>
> It's not just the RME fireface... a lot of interfaces are having trouble
> with the Mac firewire chipset. =C2=A0And it's a chipset that some PC mothe=
rboards
> have used also.
>
> Buy an older Mac and you'll be fine. =C2=A0They are rugged and last a good=
while.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. =C2=A0C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

i realy don't understand much in computers but i found that the
macbook is realy good for my needs, which are recording outdoors and
that i could run LIVE! on it.
but than this problem occour.

is there any alternative , even a PC laptop, for this applactions?

i know kraftwerk are preforming with sony vaio
is this laptop strong enough to handle with such things? ( recording
outside, and work with live!)?

i realy need to hear some experienced people

tnx


Reply from: David@liminal
Date: 07 May, 16:11
On May 7, 10:44=C2=A0am, eliranse...@yahoo . com wrote:
> On 5 =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99, 16:47, klu...@panix . com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
>
>
> > =C2=A0<eliranse...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> > >i have a fireface400 and that's a long time i want to buy myself a
> > >macbook so i can record and work outdoors.
> > >the problem is that i noticed (in apple and rme forum) that the latest
> > >macs has a firewire issue interfacing with rme fireface series.
> > >does anyone can tell what he knows about it?
> > >is there a solution cmming up?
> > >any workaround?
>
> > There is probably not a solution coming up soon, because Apple is not
> > really considering it critical.
>
> > >is it the end between rme fireface users to macbooks?
>
> > It's not just the RME fireface... a lot of interfaces are having trouble=

> > with the Mac firewire chipset. =C2=A0And it's a chipset that some PC mot=
herboards
> > have used also.
>
> > Buy an older Mac and you'll be fine. =C2=A0They are rugged and last a go=
od while.
> > --scott
> > --
> > "C'est un Nagra. =C2=A0C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
> i realy don't understand much in computers but =C2=A0i found that the
> macbook is realy good for my needs, which are recording outdoors and
> that i could run LIVE! on it.
> but than this problem occour.
>
> is there any alternative , even a PC laptop, for this applactions?
>
> i know kraftwerk are preforming with sony vaio
> is this laptop strong enough to handle with such things? ( recording
> outside, and work with live!)?
>
> i realy need to hear some experienced people
>
> tnx

If you are working outside, i can recommend the MOTU traveler. I must
confess I had to send the first one back but now the one i have is
working, I'm really happy with it. With the rack ears removed, it's
small enough to go in my backpack, the 4 pre-amps are good and it
works fine with my macbook pro.

David

Reply from: eliransegev@yahoo . com
Date: 08 May, 14:12
On 7 =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99, 17:11, "David@liminal" <da...@davidprior.org> wrote=
:
> On May 7, 10:44=C2=A0am, eliranse...@yahoo . com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99, 16:47, klu...@panix . com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
> > > =C2=A0<eliranse...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> > > >i have a fireface400 and that's a long time i want to buy myself a
> > > >macbook so i can record and work outdoors.
> > > >the problem is that i noticed (in apple and rme forum) that the lates=
t
> > > >macs has a firewire issue interfacing with rme fireface series.
> > > >does anyone can tell what he knows about it?
> > > >is there a solution cmming up?
> > > >any workaround?
>
> > > There is probably not a solution coming up soon, because Apple is not
> > > really considering it critical.
>
> > > >is it the end between rme fireface users to macbooks?
>
> > > It's not just the RME fireface... a lot of interfaces are having troub=
le
> > > with the Mac firewire chipset. =C2=A0And it's a chipset that some PC m=
otherboards
> > > have used also.
>
> > > Buy an older Mac and you'll be fine. =C2=A0They are rugged and last a =
good while.
> > > --scott
> > > --
> > > "C'est un Nagra. =C2=A0C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
> > i realy don't understand much in computers but =C2=A0i found that the
> > macbook is realy good for my needs, which are recording outdoors and
> > that i could run LIVE! on it.
> > but than this problem occour.
>
> > is there any alternative , even a PC laptop, for this applactions?
>
> > i know kraftwerk are preforming with sony vaio
> > is this laptop strong enough to handle with such things? ( recording
> > outside, and work with live!)?
>
> > i realy need to hear some experienced people
>
> > tnx
>
> If you are working outside, i can recommend the MOTU traveler. I must
> confess I had to send the first one back but now the one i have is
> working, I'm really happy with it. =C2=A0With the rack ears removed, it's
> small enough to go in my backpack, the 4 pre-amps are good and it
> works fine with my macbook pro.
>
> David-=D7=94=D7=A1=D7=AA=D7=A8 =D7=98=D7=A7=D7=A1=D7=98 =D7=9E=D7=A6=D7=95=
=D7=98=D7=98-
>
> -=D7=94=D7=A8=D7=90=D7=94 =D7=98=D7=A7=D7=A1=D7=98 =D7=9E=D7=A6=D7=95=D7=
=98=D7=98-

tnx for your comment but i dont want to replace my fireface400, i love
it acctualy, i ment an alterntavie laptop.
other laptops that you can recomend me which is suitable for audio
applcations

Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 09 May, 00:29

<eliransegev@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:b8100098-4691-4933-b93b-139c58a72cd6@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups . com ...
On 7 ???, 17:11, "David@liminal" <da...@davidprior.org> wrote:
> On May 7, 10:44 am, eliranse...@yahoo . com wrote:
[snip]
tnx for your comment but i dont want to replace my fireface400, i love
it acctualy, i ment an alterntavie laptop.
other laptops that you can recomend me which is suitable for audio
applcations

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Any laptop that uses the Centrino or later chipset will do. Just stay away
from some laptops that used Pentium Mobile processors. There was nothing
wrong with the CPU, but the chipsets could cause problems.

To give an example of the power of a Centrino chipset, I can record 12
channels at 96/24 via the built-in Firewire port on an Asus S5NE, which uses
a 1gHz ULV Centrino CPU.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: Mogens V.
Date: 09 May, 00:50
eliransegev@yahoo . com wrote:
> tnx for your comment but i dont want to replace my fireface400, i love
> it acctualy, i ment an alterntavie laptop.
> other laptops that you can recomend me which is suitable for audio
> applcations


While working with IT and being a musician, I don't know enough about
studio applications to fully evaluate laptops for this, so YMMV..

I sometimes consider a laptop for my own home studio needs, since modern
laptops have gained so much performance in the latter years.

Most importantly, I would read tests about performance, heat issues and
search the net for reports about durability.
Resently, laptops are being build with lowpower multicore cpu's, so the
power might be there. The most resent ones can now take 8GB ram.
Modern 2½" laptop harddrives are getting quite fast and large.
I would consider using an external firewire drive for my audio files.

I haven't checked those claims about firewire problems in Mac laptops;
if it's trus, shame, as I'd prefer using a Mac with Logic Studio.


I'd like comments about using laptops for recording *and* processing.

--
Kind regards,
Mogens V.


Reply from: Soundhaspriority
Date: 09 May, 02:02

"Mogens V." <mogensv@NOYOUDONTvip.cybercity.dk> wrote in message
news:4823834b$0$312$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
> eliransegev@yahoo . com wrote:
>> tnx for your comment but i dont want to replace my fireface400, i love
>> it acctualy, i ment an alterntavie laptop.
>> other laptops that you can recomend me which is suitable for audio
>> applcations
>
>
> While working with IT and being a musician, I don't know enough about
> studio applications to fully evaluate laptops for this, so YMMV..
>
> I sometimes consider a laptop for my own home studio needs, since modern
> laptops have gained so much performance in the latter years.
>
> Most importantly, I would read tests about performance, heat issues and
> search the net for reports about durability.
> Resently, laptops are being build with lowpower multicore cpu's, so the
> power might be there. The most resent ones can now take 8GB ram. Modern
> 2½" laptop harddrives are getting quite fast and large.
> I would consider using an external firewire drive for my audio files.
>
> I haven't checked those claims about firewire problems in Mac laptops; if
> it's trus, shame, as I'd prefer using a Mac with Logic Studio.
>
>
> I'd like comments about using laptops for recording *and* processing.
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Mogens V.
>
The power requirements for recording are minimal. See my other post for an
example. If realtime processing is not required, and there is seldom a need
for it, the requirements are minimal also.

Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511



Reply from: eliransegev@yahoo . com
Date: 09 May, 09:20
On 9 =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99, 03:02, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@nowhere . com > wro=
te:
> "Mogens V." <moge...@NOYOUDONTvip.cybercity.dk> wrote in message
>
> news:4823834b$0$312$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
>
>
>
> > eliranse...@yahoo . com wrote:
> >> tnx for your comment but i dont want to replace my fireface400, i love
> >> it acctualy, i ment an alterntavie laptop.
> >> other laptops that you can recomend me which is suitable for audio
> >> applcations
>
> > While working with IT and being a musician, I don't know enough about
> > studio applications to fully evaluate laptops for this, so YMMV..
>
> > I sometimes consider a laptop for my own home studio needs, since modern=

> > laptops have gained so much performance in the latter years.
>
> > Most importantly, I would read tests about performance, heat issues and
> > search the net for reports about durability.
> > Resently, laptops are being build with lowpower multicore cpu's, so the
> > power might be there. =C2=A0The most resent ones can now take 8GB ram. M=
odern
> > 2=C2=BD" laptop harddrives are getting quite fast and large.
> > I would consider using an external firewire drive for my audio files.
>
> > I haven't checked those claims about firewire problems in Mac laptops; i=
f
> > it's trus, shame, as I'd prefer using a Mac with Logic Studio.
>
> > I'd like comments about using laptops for recording *and* processing.
>
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Mogens V.
>
> The power requirements for recording are minimal. See my other post for an=

> example. If realtime processing is not required, and there is seldom a nee=
d
> for it, the requirements are minimal also.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511-=D7=94=D7=A1=D7=AA=D7=A8 =D7=98=D7=A7=D7=A1=D7=98 =D7=9E=D7=
=A6=D7=95=D7=98=D7=98-
>
> -=D7=94=D7=A8=D7=90=D7=94 =D7=98=D7=A7=D7=A1=D7=98 =D7=9E=D7=A6=D7=95=D7=
=98=D7=98-

well ' the battary can supply between 2-5 hours of outdoors uses, it
depends on the company and this feature is specify in every laptop .
i'm so dissapointed that mac dont take the firface issue as they
should .
mogens you can visit RME furom ad you'll see everthing you need to
know.

Reply from: Mogens V.
Date: 09 May, 19:49
Soundhaspriority wrote:
> "Mogens V." <mogensv@NOYOUDONTvip.cybercity.dk> wrote in message
> news:4823834b$0$312$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
>
>>eliransegev@yahoo . com wrote:
>>
>>>tnx for your comment but i dont want to replace my fireface400, i love
>>>it acctualy, i ment an alterntavie laptop.
>>>other laptops that you can recomend me which is suitable for audio
>>>applcations
>>
>>
>>While working with IT and being a musician, I don't know enough about
>>studio applications to fully evaluate laptops for this, so YMMV..
>>
>>I sometimes consider a laptop for my own home studio needs, since modern
>>laptops have gained so much performance in the latter years.
>>
>>Most importantly, I would read tests about performance, heat issues and
>>search the net for reports about durability.
>>Resently, laptops are being build with lowpower multicore cpu's, so the
>>power might be there. The most resent ones can now take 8GB ram. Modern
>>2½" laptop harddrives are getting quite fast and large.
>>I would consider using an external firewire drive for my audio files.
>>
>>I haven't checked those claims about firewire problems in Mac laptops; if
>>it's trus, shame, as I'd prefer using a Mac with Logic Studio.
>>
>>
>>I'd like comments about using laptops for recording *and* processing.
>>
>>--
>>Kind regards,
>>Mogens V.
>>
>
> The power requirements for recording are minimal. See my other post for an
> example. If realtime processing is not required, and there is seldom a need
> for it, the requirements are minimal also.
>
> Bob Morein

Sorry, wrong thread to ask about laptops for studio processing.
I'll make another one..

--
Kind regards,
Mogens V.





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