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Electro-Voice N/D767s Plosives Problem
Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
one. Any suggestions?
Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
Thanks.
never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
one. Any suggestions?
Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
Thanks.
On Sun, 04 May 2008 13:20:37 -0400, George Wirth
<geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
>never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
>vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
>filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
>wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
>the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
>one. Any suggestions?
>
>Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
>
>Thanks.
Just stick a separate pop shield in front of it. Of course there is
still the question of what has changed. I suspect the internal foam
has degenerated somehow.
d
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Pearce Consulting
* w w w .pearce.uk . com
<geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
>never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
>vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
>filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
>wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
>the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
>one. Any suggestions?
>
>Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
>
>Thanks.
Just stick a separate pop shield in front of it. Of course there is
still the question of what has changed. I suspect the internal foam
has degenerated somehow.
d
--
Pearce Consulting
* w w w .pearce.uk . com
George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
>never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
>vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
>filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
>wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
>the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
>one. Any suggestions?
What changed? Are you sure it's the mike? If something has broken in the
mike causing it to become sensitive to wind issues, send the mike to EV for
repair. But note that changing vocalists or changing speaker systems can
also have the effect of making plosive problems worse.
>Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
No, and the pattern is a lot wider too.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
>never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
>vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
>filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
>wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
>the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
>one. Any suggestions?
What changed? Are you sure it's the mike? If something has broken in the
mike causing it to become sensitive to wind issues, send the mike to EV for
repair. But note that changing vocalists or changing speaker systems can
also have the effect of making plosive problems worse.
>Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
No, and the pattern is a lot wider too.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix . com > wrote:
> George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
> >Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
> >never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
> >vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
> >filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
> >wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
> >the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
> >one. Any suggestions?
>
> What changed? Are you sure it's the mike? If something has broken in the
> mike causing it to become sensitive to wind issues, send the mike to EV for
> repair. But note that changing vocalists or changing speaker systems can
> also have the effect of making plosive problems worse.
I'm pretty sure it George's personal mic and that he has noticed the
change using his own voice as the test signal.
He said in a reply in rmmga:
George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>* The mic's not very old. I
>* DID wash out the internal filter once in running water so I guess it
>* may have deteriorated in some way. A foam wind screen works but I
>* never needed one before. I like the mic.. . it 's hot with some presence
>*(less with the wind screen) and doesn't pick up a lot beside the
>* vocal. I thought there might be some kind of thin foam I could use to
>* reline the head.
--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam
> George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
> >Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
> >never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
> >vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
> >filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
> >wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
> >the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
> >one. Any suggestions?
>
> What changed? Are you sure it's the mike? If something has broken in the
> mike causing it to become sensitive to wind issues, send the mike to EV for
> repair. But note that changing vocalists or changing speaker systems can
> also have the effect of making plosive problems worse.
I'm pretty sure it George's personal mic and that he has noticed the
change using his own voice as the test signal.
He said in a reply in rmmga:
George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>* The mic's not very old. I
>* DID wash out the internal filter once in running water so I guess it
>* may have deteriorated in some way. A foam wind screen works but I
>* never needed one before. I like the mic.. . it 's hot with some presence
>*(less with the wind screen) and doesn't pick up a lot beside the
>* vocal. I thought there might be some kind of thin foam I could use to
>* reline the head.
--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam
hank alrich <walkinay@nv . net > wrote:
>George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>
>>* The mic's not very old. I
>>* DID wash out the internal filter once in running water so I guess it
>>* may have deteriorated in some way. A foam wind screen works but I
>>* never needed one before. I like the mic.. . it 's hot with some presence
>>*(less with the wind screen) and doesn't pick up a lot beside the
>>* vocal. I thought there might be some kind of thin foam I could use to
>>* reline the head.
EV will charge you a buck or two for a replacement internal filter, but if
it happened suddenly it could be a capsule issue.
EV does not do the free repair work that they were famous for for many years,
but it's still worth just sending it back to them and having them fix it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>
>>* The mic's not very old. I
>>* DID wash out the internal filter once in running water so I guess it
>>* may have deteriorated in some way. A foam wind screen works but I
>>* never needed one before. I like the mic.. . it 's hot with some presence
>>*(less with the wind screen) and doesn't pick up a lot beside the
>>* vocal. I thought there might be some kind of thin foam I could use to
>>* reline the head.
EV will charge you a buck or two for a replacement internal filter, but if
it happened suddenly it could be a capsule issue.
EV does not do the free repair work that they were famous for for many years,
but it's still worth just sending it back to them and having them fix it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
On 5 May 2008 11:18:37 -0400, kludge@panix . com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>hank alrich <walkinay@nv . net > wrote:
>>George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>>
>>>* The mic's not very old. I
>>>* DID wash out the internal filter once in running water so I guess it
>>>* may have deteriorated in some way. A foam wind screen works but I
>>>* never needed one before. I like the mic.. . it 's hot with some presence
>>>*(less with the wind screen) and doesn't pick up a lot beside the
>>>* vocal. I thought there might be some kind of thin foam I could use to
>>>* reline the head.
>
>EV will charge you a buck or two for a replacement internal filter, but if
>it happened suddenly it could be a capsule issue.
>
>EV does not do the free repair work that they were famous for for many years,
>but it's still worth just sending it back to them and having them fix it.
>--scott
What Hank said...
A while back I cleaned the front screen by removing it and running
some water through it. The internal filter in the screen consists or
two pieces...a center piece of foam the size of a half dollar and a
piece of porous material covering the outer sides. The material has
eight 3/8 " slits cut into it so that when it's attached to the screen
it conforms to the right sphere shape. I don't recall what it looked
like originally but now slits in the material are all open about
3/32". I'm wondering if the material shrunk and those openings are
causing the problem. I emailed EV last night to see if I can get a
replacement fiter or even the whole screen.
Thanks for the help.
G.
>hank alrich <walkinay@nv . net > wrote:
>>George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>>
>>>* The mic's not very old. I
>>>* DID wash out the internal filter once in running water so I guess it
>>>* may have deteriorated in some way. A foam wind screen works but I
>>>* never needed one before. I like the mic.. . it 's hot with some presence
>>>*(less with the wind screen) and doesn't pick up a lot beside the
>>>* vocal. I thought there might be some kind of thin foam I could use to
>>>* reline the head.
>
>EV will charge you a buck or two for a replacement internal filter, but if
>it happened suddenly it could be a capsule issue.
>
>EV does not do the free repair work that they were famous for for many years,
>but it's still worth just sending it back to them and having them fix it.
>--scott
What Hank said...
A while back I cleaned the front screen by removing it and running
some water through it. The internal filter in the screen consists or
two pieces...a center piece of foam the size of a half dollar and a
piece of porous material covering the outer sides. The material has
eight 3/8 " slits cut into it so that when it's attached to the screen
it conforms to the right sphere shape. I don't recall what it looked
like originally but now slits in the material are all open about
3/32". I'm wondering if the material shrunk and those openings are
causing the problem. I emailed EV last night to see if I can get a
replacement fiter or even the whole screen.
Thanks for the help.
G.
We have several of the ND767's in our church. I can tell you from
experience that the have a plosive problem brand new out of the box. You
might have just now started to notice it, and washing the screens might have
increased it. I love the sound of the 767's except that one thing. The
SM58 is much better on plosives.
Max Arwood
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix . com > wrote in message
news:fvn39g$rs2$1@panix2.panix . com ...
> George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>>Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
>>never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
>>vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
>>filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
>>wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
>>the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
>>one. Any suggestions?
>
> What changed? Are you sure it's the mike? If something has broken in the
> mike causing it to become sensitive to wind issues, send the mike to EV
> for
> repair. But note that changing vocalists or changing speaker systems can
> also have the effect of making plosive problems worse.
>
>>Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
>
> No, and the pattern is a lot wider too.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
experience that the have a plosive problem brand new out of the box. You
might have just now started to notice it, and washing the screens might have
increased it. I love the sound of the 767's except that one thing. The
SM58 is much better on plosives.
Max Arwood
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix . com > wrote in message
news:fvn39g$rs2$1@panix2.panix . com ...
> George Wirth <geowirth@comcast . net > wrote:
>>Recently this mic has become very responsive to plosive sounds. I
>>never had the problem before but now it's almost impossible to use for
>>vocals without a foam wind filter. The lightweight built-in foam
>>filter looks ok (there are some open gaps along the side) but I'm
>>wondering if replacing it with something else would help. I'd replace
>>the whole front screw off screen/filter but haven't been able to find
>>one. Any suggestions?
>
> What changed? Are you sure it's the mike? If something has broken in the
> mike causing it to become sensitive to wind issues, send the mike to EV
> for
> repair. But note that changing vocalists or changing speaker systems can
> also have the effect of making plosive problems worse.
>
>>Along these lines is an SM58 better at handling plosives?
>
> No, and the pattern is a lot wider too.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
The 58 much better on plosives??? I don't think so. The 58 is one of
the worst, IMO, and it has the added disadvantage of excessive
sibilance, and just plain sounding lousy on most folks.
If you want to solve to solve your plosive problem without using an
external foam windscreen, buy an EV re16.
-glenn
On May 14, 3:55 am, "Max Arwood" <marwoodNOS...@hnb . com > wrote:
> We have several of the ND767's in our church. I can tell you from
> experience that the have a plosive problem brand new out of the box. Yo=
u
> might have just now started to notice it, and washing the screens might ha=
ve
> increased it. I love the sound of the 767's except that one thing. T=
he
> SM58 is much better on plosives.
> Max Arwood
>
the worst, IMO, and it has the added disadvantage of excessive
sibilance, and just plain sounding lousy on most folks.
If you want to solve to solve your plosive problem without using an
external foam windscreen, buy an EV re16.
-glenn
On May 14, 3:55 am, "Max Arwood" <marwoodNOS...@hnb . com > wrote:
> We have several of the ND767's in our church. I can tell you from
> experience that the have a plosive problem brand new out of the box. Yo=
u
> might have just now started to notice it, and washing the screens might ha=
ve
> increased it. I love the sound of the 767's except that one thing. T=
he
> SM58 is much better on plosives.
> Max Arwood
>
geezer <liveoak.nine@gmail . com > wrote:
>The 58 much better on plosives??? I don't think so. The 58 is one of
>the worst, IMO, and it has the added disadvantage of excessive
>sibilance, and just plain sounding lousy on most folks.
>
>If you want to solve to solve your plosive problem without using an
>external foam windscreen, buy an EV re16.
Mikes don't have plosive problems. Singers have plosive problems. Mikes
just make them worse.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>The 58 much better on plosives??? I don't think so. The 58 is one of
>the worst, IMO, and it has the added disadvantage of excessive
>sibilance, and just plain sounding lousy on most folks.
>
>If you want to solve to solve your plosive problem without using an
>external foam windscreen, buy an EV re16.
Mikes don't have plosive problems. Singers have plosive problems. Mikes
just make them worse.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
On May 14, 10:47 am, klu...@panix . com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> Mikes don't have plosive problems. Singers have plosive problems. Mi=
kes
> just make them worse.
Agreed. The sm58 will definitely make the plosive problems worse.
The RE-16 won't.
-glenn
> Mikes don't have plosive problems. Singers have plosive problems. Mi=
kes
> just make them worse.
Agreed. The sm58 will definitely make the plosive problems worse.
The RE-16 won't.
-glenn
