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Time to dispense with Greenland?
Time to dispense with Greenland?
In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
Andre Jute
* members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
Andre Jute
* members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
Andre Jute wrote:
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
Well, IMHO man made global warming is much over rated and it has been
turned into another means for governments to persuade the people they
are 'caring' people whilst taxing them for it at the same time - much
like the Gulf wars.
We would be better off doing something about the serious pollution of
the seas with out trash.
Cheers
Ian
Andre Jute wrote:
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
Well, IMHO man made global warming is much over rated and it has been
turned into another means for governments to persuade the people they
are 'caring' people whilst taxing them for it at the same time - much
like the Gulf wars.
We would be better off doing something about the serious pollution of
the seas with out trash.
Cheers
Ian
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
Ian Thompson-Bell wrote:
>
> Andre Jute wrote:
> > In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> > ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> > with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> > certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> > again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> > doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> > the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> > loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> > Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
> >
>
> Well, IMHO man made global warming is much over rated and it has been
> turned into another means for governments to persuade the people they
> are 'caring' people whilst taxing them for it at the same time - much
> like the Gulf wars.
>
> We would be better off doing something about the serious pollution of
> the seas with out trash.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
Greenhouse is a symptom of a deficit in our species survival stratergy
for the longer term, say the next 10,000 years.
Carbon trading simply means "YOU WILL PAY MORE TO LIVE, YOU LITTLE
FUCKIN WORM"
This will become Government policy, but never stated like that, might
frighten the horses
at the polling booth. A select few will be allowed to be greedy as
usual.
Does anyone think present existing oil reserves are going to last 10,000
years
even if usage rates fall 90%?
Oceanic pollution won't be a problem because we are land and air
dwellers,
and when all the fish are gone, few will venture out into the seas
to leave a mess behind; there will already be a mess there with huge
numbers of plastic bags floating around
for huge timescales and we can't help fucking what we touch, now can we?
They'll still send boatloads of goods across the seas though.
Patrick Turner.
Ian Thompson-Bell wrote:
>
> Andre Jute wrote:
> > In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> > ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> > with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> > certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> > again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> > doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> > the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> > loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> > Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
> >
>
> Well, IMHO man made global warming is much over rated and it has been
> turned into another means for governments to persuade the people they
> are 'caring' people whilst taxing them for it at the same time - much
> like the Gulf wars.
>
> We would be better off doing something about the serious pollution of
> the seas with out trash.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
Greenhouse is a symptom of a deficit in our species survival stratergy
for the longer term, say the next 10,000 years.
Carbon trading simply means "YOU WILL PAY MORE TO LIVE, YOU LITTLE
FUCKIN WORM"
This will become Government policy, but never stated like that, might
frighten the horses
at the polling booth. A select few will be allowed to be greedy as
usual.
Does anyone think present existing oil reserves are going to last 10,000
years
even if usage rates fall 90%?
Oceanic pollution won't be a problem because we are land and air
dwellers,
and when all the fish are gone, few will venture out into the seas
to leave a mess behind; there will already be a mess there with huge
numbers of plastic bags floating around
for huge timescales and we can't help fucking what we touch, now can we?
They'll still send boatloads of goods across the seas though.
Patrick Turner.
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
"Andre Jute" <fiultra1@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:2141d512-d60b-44d9-9e8b-5fd3d51a4600@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
> Andre Jute
> * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
Didn't you know that one of the predicted effects of global warming is the
death of the gulf stream. You can look forward to some pretty steep heating
bills in the future.
Meanwhile in northern NSW it is a balmy 25 degrees C, although the storm
that just passed over was a beaut, 2" of rain in 20 minutes, 100Km wind and
hail.
Keith
"Andre Jute" <fiultra1@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:2141d512-d60b-44d9-9e8b-5fd3d51a4600@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
> Andre Jute
> * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
Didn't you know that one of the predicted effects of global warming is the
death of the gulf stream. You can look forward to some pretty steep heating
bills in the future.
Meanwhile in northern NSW it is a balmy 25 degrees C, although the storm
that just passed over was a beaut, 2" of rain in 20 minutes, 100Km wind and
hail.
Keith
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
keithr wrote:
>
> "Andre Jute" <fiultra1@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:2141d512-d60b-44d9-9e8b-5fd3d51a4600@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
> > In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> > ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> > with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> > certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> > again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> > doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> > the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> > loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> > Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
> >
> > PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> > feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> > fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> > and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> > has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> > eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> > out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
>
> Didn't you know that one of the predicted effects of global warming is the
> death of the gulf stream. You can look forward to some pretty steep heating
> bills in the future.
>
> Meanwhile in northern NSW it is a balmy 25 degrees C, although the storm
> that just passed over was a beaut, 2" of rain in 20 minutes, 100Km wind and
> hail.
>
> Keith
Northern NSW on the coastal east side is sub-tropical, and such rain and
wind
isn't unusual.
24 years ago in Toowoomba in SE Queensland they had a severe hail storm
which broke records. I was there just after, and not a tree had any
leaves.
Big deal, its what you get there every 50 years.
We get bush fire storms about every 30 years, 2003 was a corker,
and 500 houses burnt down.
Stupid people build suburbs right in the down wind path of such
fire storms with 100kph winds. They spent 50 years growing pine
plantations
in the path as well, and then neglected to mainatin low levels of forest
litter
and cut out enough wood and make enough breaks.
When the fire came, it fried everything so well that nature was ever so
slow
to recover....
Too much human stoopidity.
But Oz is slowly getting dryer.
Farming in marginal areas is getting more difficult.
I am not sure if the Goyder line across SA is moving, but maybe it is
moving a bit southwards.
The Murray River is dying.
Too many ppl taking water out of the river before it runs anywhere.
They gonna spend 10 billion to fix the problem,
but nothing will fix it if more water is removed and it don't rain.
Deakin once said let's fill Oz with 150 million people, back in 1904.
People then had BIG families, no worries, ( no Pill, or women's
liberation either ).
Hmm, I can't see 150 million able to get a drink....
or flush their toilets.
Stoopid, plain stooooopid.
Patrick Turner.
keithr wrote:
>
> "Andre Jute" <fiultra1@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:2141d512-d60b-44d9-9e8b-5fd3d51a4600@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
> > In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> > ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> > with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> > certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> > again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> > doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> > the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> > loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> > Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
> >
> > PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> > feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> > fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> > and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> > has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> > eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> > out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
>
> Didn't you know that one of the predicted effects of global warming is the
> death of the gulf stream. You can look forward to some pretty steep heating
> bills in the future.
>
> Meanwhile in northern NSW it is a balmy 25 degrees C, although the storm
> that just passed over was a beaut, 2" of rain in 20 minutes, 100Km wind and
> hail.
>
> Keith
Northern NSW on the coastal east side is sub-tropical, and such rain and
wind
isn't unusual.
24 years ago in Toowoomba in SE Queensland they had a severe hail storm
which broke records. I was there just after, and not a tree had any
leaves.
Big deal, its what you get there every 50 years.
We get bush fire storms about every 30 years, 2003 was a corker,
and 500 houses burnt down.
Stupid people build suburbs right in the down wind path of such
fire storms with 100kph winds. They spent 50 years growing pine
plantations
in the path as well, and then neglected to mainatin low levels of forest
litter
and cut out enough wood and make enough breaks.
When the fire came, it fried everything so well that nature was ever so
slow
to recover....
Too much human stoopidity.
But Oz is slowly getting dryer.
Farming in marginal areas is getting more difficult.
I am not sure if the Goyder line across SA is moving, but maybe it is
moving a bit southwards.
The Murray River is dying.
Too many ppl taking water out of the river before it runs anywhere.
They gonna spend 10 billion to fix the problem,
but nothing will fix it if more water is removed and it don't rain.
Deakin once said let's fill Oz with 150 million people, back in 1904.
People then had BIG families, no worries, ( no Pill, or women's
liberation either ).
Hmm, I can't see 150 million able to get a drink....
or flush their toilets.
Stoopid, plain stooooopid.
Patrick Turner.
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
Andre Jute wrote:
>
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
There's a recent report of data from a US satelite launched in 2002
which shows a trend that can only disspoint the pro-greenhouse lobby.
We are have had a nice coolish summer and slightly more rain for
an El-Nina year which occurs after an El-Nino pattern that
brings drought, and 2002 to 2007 was a terrible drought.
I hav a feeling this El-Nina year is a very weak, and perhaps
we'll swing back to drought sooner rather than later, because of
total greenhouse warming.
Experts are only ever 81% right when they say they are 90% right,
and all their peers agree.
But when they are only 60% right, their predictions for the future
are no better than a chimpanzee with 3 options, it'll be better, the
same, or worse.
Last week drmatic photos came from Antarctica showing the initial
breakup
of sea ice with 14,000 sq km in area.
Its been there maybe 20,000 years and now is melting.
Another vast area that'd been there for yonks only took a few years to
dissappear.
My electricity bills are the rising because the arsoles supplying
say they want more money all the time, and at a rate faster than the
inflation rate. Banks put up interest rates here to about 9% now
and that's inflating things even more while its been done to reduce it.
When the yet to be invented Department of Greenhouse Policing and Energy
Regulation, GPER,
gets started the price of electricty is set to sky rocket +12dB,
and my standard of living will plummet -6dB.
Our AUD is up near the USD, and our oil prices are linked to the USD.
If the $ drops again to 60c like so often before, we will see a huge oil
price hike.
Meanwhile people keep paying me wages I can't stop sneering at.
Average wages in Oz are now AUD $44,000 pa, and enough to bribe anyone
who is actually sensible into never complaining about anything, really.
There is only 10 people in Oz who are really sensible, and they are
ridiculed as being
Loony Frugals. How dare they live so cheaply!! its real bad for the
economy.
But demand for 10 bedroom houses is blossoming; people only want more
after getting it all.
We spent maybe a million years trying to get enough to get by on,
to prevent stravation and to breed just enough ppl.
That problem has been solved.
But now we head like lemmings ove the cliff, utterly undriven, without
aim, and unable to
change priorities to having just enough and no more, because as the
ancient greeks
realised, too much is just as bad as too little.
One thing is absolutely certain. We as a species WILL become extinct.
Just how soon is debatable, but probably you and your children have time
for a few martinis
before its all over. Like most you can serenly take the Egyptian
solution
and be In De Nile.
But over it will be for many species now living, including us.
The fossil record reveals many species that only lasted so long, then
poof, they are gone forever,
perhaps leaving some mutants behind. If there is a God, and he is
Willing,
and with the 10,000 random chances Nature hurls at us so callously,
maybe these critters develop into something else quite different.
>
> Andre Jute
> * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
My environment gets worse and fuckin worse each fuckin year.
Its all caused by too many humans ruining fine landscapes,
and seas and rivers.....
I spend my time making amps, and being on the bike,
and definately never in a state of denial about something I see
happening
so plainly.
But it may reverse, and things might turn to a little ice age.
I just cannot agree we will get away with putting a huge amount of
carbon into the air
in a few hundred years that took Nature millions of years to bury.
There are too many problems to face that cannot be easily solved.
Oil and water and povety et all.
Way too many people around.
Just imagine, in 1,000 years, do ya think they'll be oil left in
the ME?
How about clean water supplies in China?
Rain forest? lions and tigers? Maybe we'll be gone...
If ever the Aids virus became as catchable as the common cold, and
more virulent, watch out.
Patrick Turner.
Andre Jute wrote:
>
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
There's a recent report of data from a US satelite launched in 2002
which shows a trend that can only disspoint the pro-greenhouse lobby.
We are have had a nice coolish summer and slightly more rain for
an El-Nina year which occurs after an El-Nino pattern that
brings drought, and 2002 to 2007 was a terrible drought.
I hav a feeling this El-Nina year is a very weak, and perhaps
we'll swing back to drought sooner rather than later, because of
total greenhouse warming.
Experts are only ever 81% right when they say they are 90% right,
and all their peers agree.
But when they are only 60% right, their predictions for the future
are no better than a chimpanzee with 3 options, it'll be better, the
same, or worse.
Last week drmatic photos came from Antarctica showing the initial
breakup
of sea ice with 14,000 sq km in area.
Its been there maybe 20,000 years and now is melting.
Another vast area that'd been there for yonks only took a few years to
dissappear.
My electricity bills are the rising because the arsoles supplying
say they want more money all the time, and at a rate faster than the
inflation rate. Banks put up interest rates here to about 9% now
and that's inflating things even more while its been done to reduce it.
When the yet to be invented Department of Greenhouse Policing and Energy
Regulation, GPER,
gets started the price of electricty is set to sky rocket +12dB,
and my standard of living will plummet -6dB.
Our AUD is up near the USD, and our oil prices are linked to the USD.
If the $ drops again to 60c like so often before, we will see a huge oil
price hike.
Meanwhile people keep paying me wages I can't stop sneering at.
Average wages in Oz are now AUD $44,000 pa, and enough to bribe anyone
who is actually sensible into never complaining about anything, really.
There is only 10 people in Oz who are really sensible, and they are
ridiculed as being
Loony Frugals. How dare they live so cheaply!! its real bad for the
economy.
But demand for 10 bedroom houses is blossoming; people only want more
after getting it all.
We spent maybe a million years trying to get enough to get by on,
to prevent stravation and to breed just enough ppl.
That problem has been solved.
But now we head like lemmings ove the cliff, utterly undriven, without
aim, and unable to
change priorities to having just enough and no more, because as the
ancient greeks
realised, too much is just as bad as too little.
One thing is absolutely certain. We as a species WILL become extinct.
Just how soon is debatable, but probably you and your children have time
for a few martinis
before its all over. Like most you can serenly take the Egyptian
solution
and be In De Nile.
But over it will be for many species now living, including us.
The fossil record reveals many species that only lasted so long, then
poof, they are gone forever,
perhaps leaving some mutants behind. If there is a God, and he is
Willing,
and with the 10,000 random chances Nature hurls at us so callously,
maybe these critters develop into something else quite different.
>
> Andre Jute
> * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
My environment gets worse and fuckin worse each fuckin year.
Its all caused by too many humans ruining fine landscapes,
and seas and rivers.....
I spend my time making amps, and being on the bike,
and definately never in a state of denial about something I see
happening
so plainly.
But it may reverse, and things might turn to a little ice age.
I just cannot agree we will get away with putting a huge amount of
carbon into the air
in a few hundred years that took Nature millions of years to bury.
There are too many problems to face that cannot be easily solved.
Oil and water and povety et all.
Way too many people around.
Just imagine, in 1,000 years, do ya think they'll be oil left in
the ME?
How about clean water supplies in China?
Rain forest? lions and tigers? Maybe we'll be gone...
If ever the Aids virus became as catchable as the common cold, and
more virulent, watch out.
Patrick Turner.
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
On 3=D4=C228=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E77=CA=B108=B7=D6, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.=
com> wrote:
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
> Andre Jute * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
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On 3=D4=C228=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E77=CA=B108=B7=D6, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.=
com> wrote:
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
> Andre Jute * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
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Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
In article
<2141d512-d60b-44d9-9e8b-5fd3d51a4600@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com >,
fiultra1@yahoo . com says...
I say, bring on global warming,
>the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
>loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
>Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
>Andre Jute
If global warming causes the Gulf Stream to cease warming Europe, you may be
rather chilled, Andre. Without the Gulf Stream, Ireland's average January
temperature would be around 15ºC cooler than today - between -10ºC and -15ºC.
Alarm over dramatic weakening of Gulf StreamInteractive guide to the Gulf
Stream
Ian Sample, science correspondent The Guardian, Thursday December 1 2005
This article appeared in the Guardian on Thursday December 01 2005 on p3 of
the Top section. It was last updated at 13:32 on December 05 2005.
The powerful ocean current that bathes Britain and northern Europe in warm
waters from the tropics has weakened dramatically in recent years, a
consequence of global warming that could trigger more severe winters and
cooler summers across the region, scientists warn today.
Researchers on a scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean measured the
strength of the current between Africa and the east coast of America and found
that the circulation has slowed by 30% since a previous expedition 12 years
ago.
The current, which drives the Gulf Stream, delivers the equivalent of 1m power
stations-worth of energy to northern Europe, propping up temperatures by 10C
in some regions. The researchers found that the circulation has weakened by 6m
tonnes of water a second. Previous expeditions to check the current flow in
1957, 1981 and 1992 found only minor changes in its strength, although a
slowing was picked up in a further expedition in 1998. The decline prompted
the scientists to set up a £4.8m network of moored instruments in the Atlantic
to monitor changes in the current continuously.
In article
<2141d512-d60b-44d9-9e8b-5fd3d51a4600@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com >,
fiultra1@yahoo . com says...
I say, bring on global warming,
>the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
>loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
>Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
>Andre Jute
If global warming causes the Gulf Stream to cease warming Europe, you may be
rather chilled, Andre. Without the Gulf Stream, Ireland's average January
temperature would be around 15ºC cooler than today - between -10ºC and -15ºC.
Alarm over dramatic weakening of Gulf StreamInteractive guide to the Gulf
Stream
Ian Sample, science correspondent The Guardian, Thursday December 1 2005
This article appeared in the Guardian on Thursday December 01 2005 on p3 of
the Top section. It was last updated at 13:32 on December 05 2005.
The powerful ocean current that bathes Britain and northern Europe in warm
waters from the tropics has weakened dramatically in recent years, a
consequence of global warming that could trigger more severe winters and
cooler summers across the region, scientists warn today.
Researchers on a scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean measured the
strength of the current between Africa and the east coast of America and found
that the circulation has slowed by 30% since a previous expedition 12 years
ago.
The current, which drives the Gulf Stream, delivers the equivalent of 1m power
stations-worth of energy to northern Europe, propping up temperatures by 10C
in some regions. The researchers found that the circulation has weakened by 6m
tonnes of water a second. Previous expeditions to check the current flow in
1957, 1981 and 1992 found only minor changes in its strength, although a
slowing was picked up in a further expedition in 1998. The decline prompted
the scientists to set up a £4.8m network of moored instruments in the Atlantic
to monitor changes in the current continuously.
Re: Time to dispense with Greenland?
On 3=D4=C228=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E77=CA=B108=B7=D6, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.=
com> wrote:
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
> Andre Jute * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
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On 3=D4=C228=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E77=CA=B108=B7=D6, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.=
com> wrote:
> In the last fortnight on most days my ride was either prevented or
> ruined by a cold wind from the North. And this has been a grim winter,
> with my central heating oil bill twice what it was last year. I
> certainly hope that after a particularly tough winter we shall not
> again soon hear from the instant short-series "experts" that we're all
> doomed because global warming is here. I say, bring on global warming,
> the sooner the better. And I've been to the Arctic. If it melts, no
> loss. Not to mention that the cold wind ruining my rides starts around
> Greenland. Time to dispense with Greenland too, don't you think?
>
> Andre Jute * members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
>
> PS Of course, next week the cycling weather will start in earnest... I
> feel it in my bones. So don't expect me to hang around arguing
> fruitlessly with the environmentalists about their religion of doom
> and gloom. I'm a Simonite: my environment is better every year, and
> has been better every year of my life, as anyone can see who keeps his
> eyes open and his brain in gear. Those of us who know better will be
> out cycling while you waste your time talking to no one. Ciao.
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manufacturers... but lack the time to contact suppliers, negotiate
contracts, arrange shipping or monitor product quality? Don't worry -
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*Check out the huge range of Gadgets, MP3 / MP4 Players, Car DVD /
Audio, and Computer Accessories now by visiting the online wholesale
catalog at seriouswholesale. com You'll have peace of mind thanks to
the seriouswholesale Quality Control, 12-month Warranty on all
products, and easy secure payment by credit card through Paypal.
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service. You can profit by selling hundreds of different products,
without holding any of your own inventory! Any questions you have will
be answered by the seriouswholesale English-speaking customer support
team... Their aim is to make your China electronics importing business
easier to run than ever before.
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