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Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
Those who are charged with DUI for wrecking their cars and injuring
people are punished very similarly to those who have 2 glasses of wine
and happen to get pulled over. Similar punishments, very different
outcomes. A very scary reality but it's true.
You will be treated as a menace to society so long as the DUI record
is linked to you. When you finally get your drivers license back your
auto insurance will be "high risk" and sky high draining your bank
account for years and years to come.
Not to mention that you will most likely be severely limited in your
employment opportunities due to the fact that 99.99% of companies will
see your DUI record during an employment background check and refuse
to hire you because of it.
To help people just like you who've somehow ended up in this
unfortunate situation move on with their lives so that this doesn't
become a roadblock limiting the rest of your life.
The worst part is that you're treated as if you are now 'different'
than anyone else who has not had a DUI related offense.
You're singled out at the DMV, at the Court House, on Pre-Employment
background checks, with insurance companies, peers, current and future
employers, and generally in society as a whole.
It flat out isn't fair.
You should be able to complete your punishments and then return to
being a "normal person" again just like you were before your DUI.
That's what the DUI Process Manual is committed to; helping you live
your life again like you did before this DUI ever happened.
The ability to clear your DUI record is available in most every state.
And for those state's that do not allow expungement or clearing of DUI
records there are still other remedies available that will allow you
to minimize the damage that the DUI record does to you.
* duiaidx.blogspot . com /#
Those who are charged with DUI for wrecking their cars and injuring
people are punished very similarly to those who have 2 glasses of wine
and happen to get pulled over. Similar punishments, very different
outcomes. A very scary reality but it's true.
You will be treated as a menace to society so long as the DUI record
is linked to you. When you finally get your drivers license back your
auto insurance will be "high risk" and sky high draining your bank
account for years and years to come.
Not to mention that you will most likely be severely limited in your
employment opportunities due to the fact that 99.99% of companies will
see your DUI record during an employment background check and refuse
to hire you because of it.
To help people just like you who've somehow ended up in this
unfortunate situation move on with their lives so that this doesn't
become a roadblock limiting the rest of your life.
The worst part is that you're treated as if you are now 'different'
than anyone else who has not had a DUI related offense.
You're singled out at the DMV, at the Court House, on Pre-Employment
background checks, with insurance companies, peers, current and future
employers, and generally in society as a whole.
It flat out isn't fair.
You should be able to complete your punishments and then return to
being a "normal person" again just like you were before your DUI.
That's what the DUI Process Manual is committed to; helping you live
your life again like you did before this DUI ever happened.
The ability to clear your DUI record is available in most every state.
And for those state's that do not allow expungement or clearing of DUI
records there are still other remedies available that will allow you
to minimize the damage that the DUI record does to you.
* duiaidx.blogspot . com /#
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
"terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com > wrote
(Snip self-serving tripe)
Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs on
their records, quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or
loaded also have a tendency to die young. On the other hand, *lots* of
perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk drivers every year, and in
memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to see the lives of those
convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for years afterwards.
The old saying goes: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". It says
nothing akin to, "Do the crime, get caught, and then spend years whining
about how unfairly life has treated you".
"terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com > wrote
(Snip self-serving tripe)
Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs on
their records, quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or
loaded also have a tendency to die young. On the other hand, *lots* of
perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk drivers every year, and in
memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to see the lives of those
convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for years afterwards.
The old saying goes: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". It says
nothing akin to, "Do the crime, get caught, and then spend years whining
about how unfairly life has treated you".
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
On Apr 9, 2:16 am, "P.Roehling" <Pete.Roehl...@CUTOUTeee.org> wrote:
> "terry hunter" <btoruwefe...@yahoo . com > wrote
>
> (Snip self-serving tripe)
>
> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs on
> their records, quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or
> loaded also have a tendency to die young. On the other hand, *lots* of
> perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk drivers every year, and in
> memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to see the lives of those
> convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for years afterwards.
Same here.
Plus, there are programs such as ASAP for first offenders who haven't
hurt or killed someone that give them a clean slate as far as a
conviction is concerned.
>
> The old saying goes: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". It says
> nothing akin to, "Do the crime, get caught, and then spend years whining
> about how unfairly life has treated you".
Greg
On Apr 9, 2:16 am, "P.Roehling" <Pete.Roehl...@CUTOUTeee.org> wrote:
> "terry hunter" <btoruwefe...@yahoo . com > wrote
>
> (Snip self-serving tripe)
>
> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs on
> their records, quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or
> loaded also have a tendency to die young. On the other hand, *lots* of
> perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk drivers every year, and in
> memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to see the lives of those
> convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for years afterwards.
Same here.
Plus, there are programs such as ASAP for first offenders who haven't
hurt or killed someone that give them a clean slate as far as a
conviction is concerned.
>
> The old saying goes: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". It says
> nothing akin to, "Do the crime, get caught, and then spend years whining
> about how unfairly life has treated you".
Greg
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
P.Roehling wrote:
> "terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com > wrote
>
> (Snip self-serving tripe)
>
> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs on
> their records,
?? Maybe where you come from. Things have changed for the better in the
last decade, but as a lad, drink driving was commonplace and if you
didn't want to get caught, you'd just party on until after 2am when the
cops went to bed..........
> quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or
> loaded also have a tendency to die young.
Or just fall off and bounce?
> On the other hand, *lots* of
> perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk drivers every year, and in
> memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to see the lives of those
> convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for years afterwards.
Why shouldn't the same hurdles be placed in front of anyone who injures
anyone on the roads? Why should the sober biker maimers/killers get off
light.
I was put into hospital for 6 months (and have ongoing leg problems) by
a sober driver who 'didn't see me'....his punishment for that was a $100
fine. I get done for drink driving and it cost me $1100 and a 6 month
disqualification.
One of those crimes 'put' someone (well 2 people actually, the chick on
the back got busted up as well!) in hospital and cost the taxpayer over
$200,000 in medical bills....the other crime 'could' have done the same.
Why should the 'could' get done for more than the 'did'?
>
> The old saying goes: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". It says
> nothing akin to, "Do the crime, get caught, and then spend years whining
> about how unfairly life has treated you".
>
Fair enough
P.Roehling wrote:
> "terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com > wrote
>
> (Snip self-serving tripe)
>
> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs on
> their records,
?? Maybe where you come from. Things have changed for the better in the
last decade, but as a lad, drink driving was commonplace and if you
didn't want to get caught, you'd just party on until after 2am when the
cops went to bed..........
> quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or
> loaded also have a tendency to die young.
Or just fall off and bounce?
> On the other hand, *lots* of
> perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk drivers every year, and in
> memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to see the lives of those
> convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for years afterwards.
Why shouldn't the same hurdles be placed in front of anyone who injures
anyone on the roads? Why should the sober biker maimers/killers get off
light.
I was put into hospital for 6 months (and have ongoing leg problems) by
a sober driver who 'didn't see me'....his punishment for that was a $100
fine. I get done for drink driving and it cost me $1100 and a 6 month
disqualification.
One of those crimes 'put' someone (well 2 people actually, the chick on
the back got busted up as well!) in hospital and cost the taxpayer over
$200,000 in medical bills....the other crime 'could' have done the same.
Why should the 'could' get done for more than the 'did'?
>
> The old saying goes: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". It says
> nothing akin to, "Do the crime, get caught, and then spend years whining
> about how unfairly life has treated you".
>
Fair enough
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
"BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote
>> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs
>> on their records,
>
> ?? Maybe where you come from.
It must be. I know lots of riders who drink, but very few who will admit to
riding drunk anymore. Used to be different, but this is 2007.
> Things have changed for the better in the last decade, but as a lad, drink
> driving was commonplace and if you didn't want to get caught, you'd just
> party on until after 2am when the cops went to bed..........
Over here, there are cops on duty 24/7 in most places, and while there are
fewer of them, they can see you from farther away at 3:00 AM because there's
less traffic around.
>> quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or loaded also
>> have a tendency to die young.
>
> Or just fall off and bounce?
I'm sure some just get injured, but a higher percentage of bikers are killed
in collisions than are cage drivers, and drunks have more collisions than
sober people. QED.
>> On the other hand, *lots* of perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk
>> drivers every year, and in memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to
>> see the lives of those convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for
>> years afterwards.
>
>
> Why shouldn't the same hurdles be placed in front of anyone who injures
> anyone on the roads? Why should the sober biker maimers/killers get off
> light.
It must be your time of the month. I didn't say anything like that, and you
know it.
> I was put into hospital for 6 months (and have ongoing leg problems) by a
> sober driver who 'didn't see me'....his punishment for that was a $100
> fine. I get done for drink driving and it cost me $1100 and a 6 month
> disqualification.
>
> One of those crimes 'put' someone (well 2 people actually, the chick on
> the back got busted up as well!) in hospital and cost the taxpayer over
> $200,000 in medical bills....the other crime 'could' have done the same.
> Why should the 'could' get done for more than the 'did'?
How should I know? Maybe they figure that drunk driving can be cured, but
stupidity is inherent? And in any case, why do you think that I'm
responsible for New Zealand's traffic laws?
"BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote
>> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs
>> on their records,
>
> ?? Maybe where you come from.
It must be. I know lots of riders who drink, but very few who will admit to
riding drunk anymore. Used to be different, but this is 2007.
> Things have changed for the better in the last decade, but as a lad, drink
> driving was commonplace and if you didn't want to get caught, you'd just
> party on until after 2am when the cops went to bed..........
Over here, there are cops on duty 24/7 in most places, and while there are
fewer of them, they can see you from farther away at 3:00 AM because there's
less traffic around.
>> quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or loaded also
>> have a tendency to die young.
>
> Or just fall off and bounce?
I'm sure some just get injured, but a higher percentage of bikers are killed
in collisions than are cage drivers, and drunks have more collisions than
sober people. QED.
>> On the other hand, *lots* of perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk
>> drivers every year, and in memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to
>> see the lives of those convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for
>> years afterwards.
>
>
> Why shouldn't the same hurdles be placed in front of anyone who injures
> anyone on the roads? Why should the sober biker maimers/killers get off
> light.
It must be your time of the month. I didn't say anything like that, and you
know it.
> I was put into hospital for 6 months (and have ongoing leg problems) by a
> sober driver who 'didn't see me'....his punishment for that was a $100
> fine. I get done for drink driving and it cost me $1100 and a 6 month
> disqualification.
>
> One of those crimes 'put' someone (well 2 people actually, the chick on
> the back got busted up as well!) in hospital and cost the taxpayer over
> $200,000 in medical bills....the other crime 'could' have done the same.
> Why should the 'could' get done for more than the 'did'?
How should I know? Maybe they figure that drunk driving can be cured, but
stupidity is inherent? And in any case, why do you think that I'm
responsible for New Zealand's traffic laws?
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
P.Roehling wrote:
> "BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote
>
>>> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs
>>> on their records,
>> ?? Maybe where you come from.
>
> It must be. I know lots of riders who drink, but very few who will admit to
> riding drunk anymore. Used to be different, but this is 2007.
>
Maybe there's just less admitting it as it's become less sociably
acceptable?.... . it 's a real fine line between a couple of drinks and
legally drunk.
>> Things have changed for the better in the last decade, but as a lad, drink
>> driving was commonplace and if you didn't want to get caught, you'd just
>> party on until after 2am when the cops went to bed..........
>
> Over here, there are cops on duty 24/7 in most places, and while there are
> fewer of them, they can see you from farther away at 3:00 AM because there's
> less traffic around.
>
Pretty much the same here now, with random checkpoints/booze buses
thrown in for good measure.
>>> quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or loaded also
>>> have a tendency to die young.
>> Or just fall off and bounce?
>
> I'm sure some just get injured, but a higher percentage of bikers are killed
> in collisions than are cage drivers, and drunks have more collisions than
> sober people. QED.
>
So the trick is not to have a collision, but fall off due to your own
stupidity......been there, done that, laughed about it in the morning.
>>> On the other hand, *lots* of perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk
>>> drivers every year, and in memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to
>>> see the lives of those convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for
>>> years afterwards.
>>
>> Why shouldn't the same hurdles be placed in front of anyone who injures
>> anyone on the roads? Why should the sober biker maimers/killers get off
>> light.
>
> It must be your time of the month. I didn't say anything like that, and you
> know it.
>
?? I know you didn't say that, I did ??
You are happy to have "the lives of those convicted of drunk driving
made very difficult for years afterwards." I'm just suggesting the same
for anyone who injures/kills someone on the roads. Drink driving is a
'what if' charge (what if you cause an accident) where people who
actually cause an accident, yet are sober, get off lighter.....even
though they do the damage that a drunk 'might' have done.
>> I was put into hospital for 6 months (and have ongoing leg problems) by a
>> sober driver who 'didn't see me'....his punishment for that was a $100
>> fine. I get done for drink driving and it cost me $1100 and a 6 month
>> disqualification.
>>
>> One of those crimes 'put' someone (well 2 people actually, the chick on
>> the back got busted up as well!) in hospital and cost the taxpayer over
>> $200,000 in medical bills....the other crime 'could' have done the same.
>> Why should the 'could' get done for more than the 'did'?
>
> How should I know?
Is there a 'rhetorical' icon I should have used?
Maybe they figure that drunk driving can be cured, but
> stupidity is inherent? And in any case, why do you think that I'm
> responsible for New Zealand's traffic laws?
>
So stupidity should be rewarded? I'm not holding you responsible for
anything....just pointing out the laws an ass in many respects. As long
as Joe citizen has a bogeyman (drink driver) to point the finger at for
the road toll, he has the attitude that as long as he is sober, he's a
good driver.
P.Roehling wrote:
> "BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote
>
>>> Funny thing, Terry; most motorcyclists don't tend to have a lot of DUIs
>>> on their records,
>> ?? Maybe where you come from.
>
> It must be. I know lots of riders who drink, but very few who will admit to
> riding drunk anymore. Used to be different, but this is 2007.
>
Maybe there's just less admitting it as it's become less sociably
acceptable?.... . it 's a real fine line between a couple of drinks and
legally drunk.
>> Things have changed for the better in the last decade, but as a lad, drink
>> driving was commonplace and if you didn't want to get caught, you'd just
>> party on until after 2am when the cops went to bed..........
>
> Over here, there are cops on duty 24/7 in most places, and while there are
> fewer of them, they can see you from farther away at 3:00 AM because there's
> less traffic around.
>
Pretty much the same here now, with random checkpoints/booze buses
thrown in for good measure.
>>> quite possibly because riders who *do* tend to ride drunk or loaded also
>>> have a tendency to die young.
>> Or just fall off and bounce?
>
> I'm sure some just get injured, but a higher percentage of bikers are killed
> in collisions than are cage drivers, and drunks have more collisions than
> sober people. QED.
>
So the trick is not to have a collision, but fall off due to your own
stupidity......been there, done that, laughed about it in the morning.
>>> On the other hand, *lots* of perfectly sober bikers get squashed by drunk
>>> drivers every year, and in memory of those riders I'm perfectly happy to
>>> see the lives of those convicted of drunk driving made very difficult for
>>> years afterwards.
>>
>> Why shouldn't the same hurdles be placed in front of anyone who injures
>> anyone on the roads? Why should the sober biker maimers/killers get off
>> light.
>
> It must be your time of the month. I didn't say anything like that, and you
> know it.
>
?? I know you didn't say that, I did ??
You are happy to have "the lives of those convicted of drunk driving
made very difficult for years afterwards." I'm just suggesting the same
for anyone who injures/kills someone on the roads. Drink driving is a
'what if' charge (what if you cause an accident) where people who
actually cause an accident, yet are sober, get off lighter.....even
though they do the damage that a drunk 'might' have done.
>> I was put into hospital for 6 months (and have ongoing leg problems) by a
>> sober driver who 'didn't see me'....his punishment for that was a $100
>> fine. I get done for drink driving and it cost me $1100 and a 6 month
>> disqualification.
>>
>> One of those crimes 'put' someone (well 2 people actually, the chick on
>> the back got busted up as well!) in hospital and cost the taxpayer over
>> $200,000 in medical bills....the other crime 'could' have done the same.
>> Why should the 'could' get done for more than the 'did'?
>
> How should I know?
Is there a 'rhetorical' icon I should have used?
Maybe they figure that drunk driving can be cured, but
> stupidity is inherent? And in any case, why do you think that I'm
> responsible for New Zealand's traffic laws?
>
So stupidity should be rewarded? I'm not holding you responsible for
anything....just pointing out the laws an ass in many respects. As long
as Joe citizen has a bogeyman (drink driver) to point the finger at for
the road toll, he has the attitude that as long as he is sober, he's a
good driver.
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
On 8 Apr 2007 21:47:26 -0700, "terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com >
wrote:
>Those who are charged with DUI...
>You will be treated as a menace to society...
Those who drive drunk *ARE* a menace to society.
*YOU* are a menace to society for working toward putting these menaces
back onto the road so they can have another chance at killing innocent
people. You are *worse* than a drunk driver -- you want to enable
*many* drunk drivers to get back onto the road so that they may kill
many more people than a single drunk does. IMHO you should face a
charge of conspiracy to commit murder if any person you aid kills
anyone.
On 8 Apr 2007 21:47:26 -0700, "terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com >
wrote:
>Those who are charged with DUI...
>You will be treated as a menace to society...
Those who drive drunk *ARE* a menace to society.
*YOU* are a menace to society for working toward putting these menaces
back onto the road so they can have another chance at killing innocent
people. You are *worse* than a drunk driver -- you want to enable
*many* drunk drivers to get back onto the road so that they may kill
many more people than a single drunk does. IMHO you should face a
charge of conspiracy to commit murder if any person you aid kills
anyone.
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
"terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com > writes:
> To help people just like you who've somehow ended up in this
> unfortunate situation move on with their lives so that this doesn't
> become a roadblock limiting the rest of your life.
This isn't even a sentence. Why can't spammers have the courtesy to
use correct grammar?
Proper paragraph breaks would also be nice.
--
This post uses 100% post consumer electrons and 100% virgin photons.
An ideal world is left as an excercise to the reader.
--- Paul Graham, On Lisp 8.1
At 2.6 miles per minute, you don't really have time to get bored.
--- Pete Roehling on rec.motorcycles
I bump into a lot of veteran riders in my travels.
--- David Hough: Proficient Motorcycling
"terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com > writes:
> To help people just like you who've somehow ended up in this
> unfortunate situation move on with their lives so that this doesn't
> become a roadblock limiting the rest of your life.
This isn't even a sentence. Why can't spammers have the courtesy to
use correct grammar?
Proper paragraph breaks would also be nice.
--
This post uses 100% post consumer electrons and 100% virgin photons.
An ideal world is left as an excercise to the reader.
--- Paul Graham, On Lisp 8.1
At 2.6 miles per minute, you don't really have time to get bored.
--- Pete Roehling on rec.motorcycles
I bump into a lot of veteran riders in my travels.
--- David Hough: Proficient Motorcycling
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
My guess is you'll get about zero sympathy from most
motorcyclists. Many of us either know or have heard about a fellow
motorcyclists who was either killed or maimed by a drunk driver.
Personally, I want to know if it is such a pain to have a DUI... why
bother getting one in the first place? The decision to drink and
drive is wholely voluntary. Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
"Oh, it's just a few glasses of wine"... doesn't cut it. If you are
going to operate a potentially lethal weapon at high speeds, lay off
the booze or stay home.
The reality is that in most states now days if you kill somebody
while driving drunk, you will be treated very differently than a guy
simply pulled over and blowing 0.08. In most states at a minimum you
are going to get prison time, whereas in most states a DUI will result
in fines, community service, etc, rarely prison. Sure, you'll have a
record... because you did something stupid. So don't do something
stupid, OK?
My guess is you'll get about zero sympathy from most
motorcyclists. Many of us either know or have heard about a fellow
motorcyclists who was either killed or maimed by a drunk driver.
Personally, I want to know if it is such a pain to have a DUI... why
bother getting one in the first place? The decision to drink and
drive is wholely voluntary. Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
"Oh, it's just a few glasses of wine"... doesn't cut it. If you are
going to operate a potentially lethal weapon at high speeds, lay off
the booze or stay home.
The reality is that in most states now days if you kill somebody
while driving drunk, you will be treated very differently than a guy
simply pulled over and blowing 0.08. In most states at a minimum you
are going to get prison time, whereas in most states a DUI will result
in fines, community service, etc, rarely prison. Sure, you'll have a
record... because you did something stupid. So don't do something
stupid, OK?
Re: Clear or Significatly Minimize Your DUI Record
On 8 Apr 2007 21:47:26 -0700, "terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com >
wrote:
>Those who are charged with DUI for wrecking their cars and injuring
>people are punished very similarly to those who have 2 glasses of wine
>and happen to get pulled over. Similar punishments, very different
>outcomes. A very scary reality but it's true.
That's because insofar as criminal matters are concerned, it's the
same crime. Civil penalties depend heavily on issues of amount of
damage, but criminal ones, for the most part, don't.
>You will be treated as a menace to society so long as the DUI record
>is linked to you.
Since you will be a menace to society so long as you have the attitude
that it's OK to drink and peform various actions that may effect the
public, of which driving is merely the most common, this seems
appropriate.
>When you finally get your drivers license back your
>auto insurance will be "high risk" and sky high draining your bank
>account for years and years to come.
You want that maybe the rest of us should shoulder the financial
burden of your bad habit?
>Not to mention that you will most likely be severely limited in your
>employment opportunities due to the fact that 99.99% of companies will
>see your DUI record during an employment background check and refuse
>to hire you because of it.
Hmm. There are some big ones that don't seem to care. My own employer,
for instance. Of course if I go to work drunk, that will get me fired,
but that's only appropriate as it would be a Federal offense, me
working in defense industry and all...
>To help people just like you who've somehow ended up in this
>unfortunate situation move on with their lives so that this doesn't
>become a roadblock limiting the rest of your life.
Would you care to make that into a complete sentence?
>The worst part is that you're treated as if you are now 'different'
>than anyone else who has not had a DUI related offense.
Well, since you are different from those who have not had such an
offense...
>You're singled out at the DMV, at the Court House, on Pre-Employment
>background checks, with insurance companies, peers, current and future
>employers, and generally in society as a whole.
And your point is?
>It flat out isn't fair.
I think I was four years old when I realized that the world in general
isn't fair. It became even more unfair to me later. It seems extremely
unfair to the innocent victims of drunken drivers, but hey, there you
are! The world just plain isn't fair.
>You should be able to complete your punishments and then return to
>being a "normal person" again just like you were before your DUI.
>That's what the DUI Process Manual is committed to; helping you live
>your life again like you did before this DUI ever happened.
Right: Drink, drive, get busted, follow the DUI Process Manual,
repeat.
>The ability to clear your DUI record is available in most every state.
>And for those state's that do not allow expungement or clearing of DUI
>records there are still other remedies available that will allow you
>to minimize the damage that the DUI record does to you.
Hmm. I'll have to give my Assemblycritter a call. Gotta fix that.
Al Moore
DoD 734
On 8 Apr 2007 21:47:26 -0700, "terry hunter" <btoruwefeitb@yahoo . com >
wrote:
>Those who are charged with DUI for wrecking their cars and injuring
>people are punished very similarly to those who have 2 glasses of wine
>and happen to get pulled over. Similar punishments, very different
>outcomes. A very scary reality but it's true.
That's because insofar as criminal matters are concerned, it's the
same crime. Civil penalties depend heavily on issues of amount of
damage, but criminal ones, for the most part, don't.
>You will be treated as a menace to society so long as the DUI record
>is linked to you.
Since you will be a menace to society so long as you have the attitude
that it's OK to drink and peform various actions that may effect the
public, of which driving is merely the most common, this seems
appropriate.
>When you finally get your drivers license back your
>auto insurance will be "high risk" and sky high draining your bank
>account for years and years to come.
You want that maybe the rest of us should shoulder the financial
burden of your bad habit?
>Not to mention that you will most likely be severely limited in your
>employment opportunities due to the fact that 99.99% of companies will
>see your DUI record during an employment background check and refuse
>to hire you because of it.
Hmm. There are some big ones that don't seem to care. My own employer,
for instance. Of course if I go to work drunk, that will get me fired,
but that's only appropriate as it would be a Federal offense, me
working in defense industry and all...
>To help people just like you who've somehow ended up in this
>unfortunate situation move on with their lives so that this doesn't
>become a roadblock limiting the rest of your life.
Would you care to make that into a complete sentence?
>The worst part is that you're treated as if you are now 'different'
>than anyone else who has not had a DUI related offense.
Well, since you are different from those who have not had such an
offense...
>You're singled out at the DMV, at the Court House, on Pre-Employment
>background checks, with insurance companies, peers, current and future
>employers, and generally in society as a whole.
And your point is?
>It flat out isn't fair.
I think I was four years old when I realized that the world in general
isn't fair. It became even more unfair to me later. It seems extremely
unfair to the innocent victims of drunken drivers, but hey, there you
are! The world just plain isn't fair.
>You should be able to complete your punishments and then return to
>being a "normal person" again just like you were before your DUI.
>That's what the DUI Process Manual is committed to; helping you live
>your life again like you did before this DUI ever happened.
Right: Drink, drive, get busted, follow the DUI Process Manual,
repeat.
>The ability to clear your DUI record is available in most every state.
>And for those state's that do not allow expungement or clearing of DUI
>records there are still other remedies available that will allow you
>to minimize the damage that the DUI record does to you.
Hmm. I'll have to give my Assemblycritter a call. Gotta fix that.
Al Moore
DoD 734
