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Reply from: pjhartman@gmail . com
Date: 24 Mar 2007, 22:58
pant attachment

Question: How does the integral 8" zipper found in many cycle jackets
attach to cycle pants? It's apparent that the bottom of the zipper
comes off the jacket and is sewn to the pants, but in what
configuation?

This applies to Joe Rocket, AlpineStars, Fieldsheer, etc., jackets/
pants.

Thanks in advance.


Reply from: Dan Wright
Date: 24 Mar 2007, 23:24
Re: pant attachment


<pjhartman@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:1174773491.573085.59940@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
> Question: How does the integral 8" zipper found in many cycle jackets
> attach to cycle pants? It's apparent that the bottom of the zipper
> comes off the jacket and is sewn to the pants, but in what
> configuation?
>
> This applies to Joe Rocket, AlpineStars, Fieldsheer, etc., jackets/
> pants.

Matching piece on the jacket. At least one pair of pants I bought came with
an matching piece that could be sewn in to a jacket too. While having it
zip together is cool and probably safer too, it makes going to the bathroom
a real PITA



Reply from: BryanUT
Date: 24 Mar 2007, 23:27
Re: pant attachment


<pjhartman@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:1174773491.573085.59940@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
> Question: How does the integral 8" zipper found in many cycle jackets
> attach to cycle pants? It's apparent that the bottom of the zipper
> comes off the jacket and is sewn to the pants, but in what
> configuation?
>
> This applies to Joe Rocket, AlpineStars, Fieldsheer, etc., jackets/
> pants.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Hmmm, I have Joe Rockets. but I am too lazy to figure it out right now and
describe the procedure. One zipper goes on the top, the other on the
bottom. It either zips left or right. A freakin' puzzle it is.

I'll figure it out May 2nd when I get to the track and test ride a Buell.



Reply from: Stupendous Man
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 00:14
Re: pant attachment

>> Question: How does the integral 8" zipper found in many cycle jackets
>> attach to cycle pants?

My Rocket set just zips together, I tried it once and didn't like it. I
guess it makes up for the lack of belt loops?
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Reply from: Steve Mackay
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 01:37
Re: pant attachment

BryanUT wrote:
> <pjhartman@gmail . com > wrote in message
> news:1174773491.573085.59940@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
>> Question: How does the integral 8" zipper found in many cycle jackets
>> attach to cycle pants? It's apparent that the bottom of the zipper
>> comes off the jacket and is sewn to the pants, but in what
>> configuation?
>>
>> This applies to Joe Rocket, AlpineStars, Fieldsheer, etc., jackets/
>> pants.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> Hmmm, I have Joe Rockets. but I am too lazy to figure it out right now and
> describe the procedure. One zipper goes on the top, the other on the
> bottom. It either zips left or right. A freakin' puzzle it is.
>
> I'll figure it out May 2nd when I get to the track and test ride a Buell.
>
>
Joe Rocket & first gear are one way, and can zip to each other. Teknic
and Tourmast/Cortech go the other way and can zip together. But most
first gear has 10" zippers, but will still work with Joe Rocket's 8".


Reply from: Jamin
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 01:47
Re: pant attachment

on 3/24/07 3:27 PM, BryanUT wrote:

> Hmmm, I have Joe Rockets. but I am too lazy to figure it out right now and
> describe the procedure. One zipper goes on the top, the other on the
> bottom. It either zips left or right. A freakin' puzzle it is.

Yep. Zippers can be tricky. Wait until you try shoe laces! Talk about a
headache. ;)

Like anything, if you get do it often enough you get used to it and it's not
a big deal. It takes an extra couple seconds to work the zipper, but I'd
hardly call it pain in the ass.


on 3/24/07 4:14 PM, Stupendous Man wrote:

> My Rocket set just zips together, I tried it once and didn't like it. I
> guess it makes up for the lack of belt loops?

The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from separating
when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If you're
not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.

--
Jamin
"I don't want a pickle..."



Reply from: BryanUT
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 01:57
Re: pant attachment


"Jamin" <notme@notmymail . com > wrote in message
news:C22B149B.47641%notme@notmymail . com ...
> on 3/24/07 3:27 PM, BryanUT wrote:
>
> The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from separating
> when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If
> you're
> not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.
>
> --
> Jamin
> "I don't want a pickle..."
>
>

Good job, throwing FACTS into the discussion. :)

What is weird, I have discovered that my 15+ year old Nordstroms leather
jacket keeps me warmer and more comtfortable than Joe Rocket. But on the
track, I am going to zip everything.



Reply from: Jamin
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 03:57
Re: pant attachment

on 3/24/07 5:57 PM, BryanUT wrote:

> Good job, throwing FACTS into the discussion. :)
>
I know, I know... it's a habit of mine. ;)

> What is weird, I have discovered that my 15+ year old Nordstroms leather
> jacket keeps me warmer and more comtfortable than Joe Rocket. But on the
> track, I am going to zip everything.

The only Joe Rocket stuff I've had have been gloves, and they worked OK.
I've never worn a JR jacket to know what they're like. Once I got serious
about wearing leathers while riding, I bought Vansons and have been
extremely happy with them.

At track days it's often required to have jacket and pants zip together
unless you have a one-piece suit.

--
Jamin
"I don't want a pickle..."



Reply from: P.Roehling
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 03:59
Re: pant attachment


"Jamin" <notme@notmymail . com > wrote

> The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from separating
> when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If
> you're
> not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.

Depends. I've attended track days where they won't let you out there unless
the jacket and pants are zipped together.

No gaps in coverage allowed.



Reply from: Saddlebag
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 17:24
Re: pant attachment

On Mar 24, 8:59 pm, "P.Roehling" <Pete.Roehl...@CUTOUTeee.org> wrote:
> "Jamin" <n...@notmymail . com > wrote
>
> > The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from separating
> > when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If
> > you're
> > not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.
>
> Depends. I've attended track days where they won't let you out there unless
> the jacket and pants are zipped together.
>
> No gaps in coverage allowed.

Yeah, and this really pisses me off. The nice thing about Pridmore
days was that he was very reasonable with the attire. I wear
suspenders on my textile britches that I'm willing to bet will hold up
every bit as well (if not a heck of alot better) than the silly
zippers sewn into the flimsy liners of most leather jackets. In this
part of the country it's just too time and money intensive to get to a
track day more than a few times a year even if you're a hardcore nut
about it. It just isn't worth it to me to invest in the whole leather
suit thing, back protector etc for something I might want to do once
or twice a year. And I find leather far too hot, inflexible, and
heavy for everyday use. So now that Pridmore has retired I reckon the
only time I'll be visiting a track is to watch someone else ride on
it. Oh well...


Reply from: Beav
Date: 25 Mar 2007, 22:43
Re: pant attachment


"Saddlebag" <saddlebag@aol . com > wrote in message
news:1174836295.127523.91100@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
> On Mar 24, 8:59 pm, "P.Roehling" <Pete.Roehl...@CUTOUTeee.org> wrote:
>> "Jamin" <n...@notmymail . com > wrote
>>
>> > The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from
>> > separating
>> > when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If
>> > you're
>> > not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.
>>
>> Depends. I've attended track days where they won't let you out there
>> unless
>> the jacket and pants are zipped together.
>>
>> No gaps in coverage allowed.
>
> Yeah, and this really pisses me off. The nice thing about Pridmore
> days was that he was very reasonable with the attire. I wear
> suspenders on my textile britches that I'm willing to bet will hold up
> every bit as well (if not a heck of alot better) than the silly
> zippers sewn into the flimsy liners of most leather jackets. In this
> part of the country it's just too time and money intensive to get to a
> track day more than a few times a year even if you're a hardcore nut
> about it. It just isn't worth it to me to invest in the whole leather
> suit thing, back protector etc for something I might want to do once
> or twice a year. And I find leather far too hot, inflexible, and
> heavy for everyday use. So now that Pridmore has retired I reckon the
> only time I'll be visiting a track is to watch someone else ride on
> it.

Speaking of which....did you get to see the MotoGp today?

>Oh well...

That's exactly what I thought too:)


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19


>



Reply from: Bruce Hartweg
Date: 26 Mar 2007, 04:21
Re: pant attachment

Saddlebag wrote:
> On Mar 24, 8:59 pm, "P.Roehling" <Pete.Roehl...@CUTOUTeee.org> wrote:
>> "Jamin" <n...@notmymail . com > wrote
>>
>>> The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from separating
>>> when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If
>>> you're
>>> not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.
>> Depends. I've attended track days where they won't let you out there unless
>> the jacket and pants are zipped together.
>>
>> No gaps in coverage allowed.
>
> Yeah, and this really pisses me off. The nice thing about Pridmore
> days was that he was very reasonable with the attire. I wear
> suspenders on my textile britches that I'm willing to bet will hold up
> every bit as well (if not a heck of alot better) than the silly
> zippers sewn into the flimsy liners of most leather jackets. In this
> part of the country it's just too time and money intensive to get to a
> track day more than a few times a year even if you're a hardcore nut
> about it. It just isn't worth it to me to invest in the whole leather
> suit thing, back protector etc for something I might want to do once
> or twice a year. And I find leather far too hot, inflexible, and
> heavy for everyday use. So now that Pridmore has retired I reckon the
> only time I'll be visiting a track is to watch someone else ride on
> it. Oh well...
>

Generally I agree that it's nice for a "track day" (vs. racing) to not
require too much extra expenses, I have to ask how the hell suspenders
keep you jacket from around your head when sliding feet first down the
tarmac?

bruce

Reply from: Outback Jon
Date: 26 Mar 2007, 04:57
Re: pant attachment

Bruce Hartweg wrote:
> Generally I agree that it's nice for a "track day" (vs. racing) to not
> require too much extra expenses, I have to ask how the hell suspenders
> keep you jacket from around your head when sliding feet first down the
> tarmac?

Clip them to the bottom of the jacket and loop them under your crotch.
Seems obvious to me...

--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outback jon@ver.no.sp.am.izon . net
AMD Opteron 146 (@2.8) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power...
* folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 48435

2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157
1980 CB750F SuperSport "CoolerKing"

Reply from: Beav
Date: 27 Mar 2007, 16:59
Re: pant attachment


"Bruce Hartweg" <bruce-news@hartweg.us> wrote in message
news:p6GNh.12533$un.7544@trnddc03...
> Saddlebag wrote:
>> On Mar 24, 8:59 pm, "P.Roehling" <Pete.Roehl...@CUTOUTeee.org> wrote:
>>> "Jamin" <n...@notmymail . com > wrote
>>>
>>>> The zipper's function is to prevent your jacket and pants from
>>>> separating
>>>> when you crash, to keep cow skin, not your skin, on the pavement. If
>>>> you're
>>>> not concerned about your skin, there's no need to use the zipper.
>>> Depends. I've attended track days where they won't let you out there
>>> unless
>>> the jacket and pants are zipped together.
>>>
>>> No gaps in coverage allowed.
>>
>> Yeah, and this really pisses me off. The nice thing about Pridmore
>> days was that he was very reasonable with the attire. I wear
>> suspenders on my textile britches that I'm willing to bet will hold up
>> every bit as well (if not a heck of alot better) than the silly
>> zippers sewn into the flimsy liners of most leather jackets. In this
>> part of the country it's just too time and money intensive to get to a
>> track day more than a few times a year even if you're a hardcore nut
>> about it. It just isn't worth it to me to invest in the whole leather
>> suit thing, back protector etc for something I might want to do once
>> or twice a year. And I find leather far too hot, inflexible, and
>> heavy for everyday use. So now that Pridmore has retired I reckon the
>> only time I'll be visiting a track is to watch someone else ride on
>> it. Oh well...
>>
>
> Generally I agree that it's nice for a "track day" (vs. racing) to not
> require too much extra expenses, I have to ask how the hell suspenders
> keep you jacket from around your head when sliding feet first down the
> tarmac?

They don't, which is why it's a general rule (over here) that pants MUST be
attached to the jacket. A one piece is best (naturally) but a full length
zip is a decent second best. I wouldn't use anything less anyway.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19



Reply from: ~kurt
Date: 26 Mar 2007, 05:35
Re: pant attachment

Saddlebag <saddlebag@aol . com > wrote:
>
> Yeah, and this really pisses me off. The nice thing about Pridmore
> days was that he was very reasonable with the attire. I wear

I did the CLASS thing two summers ago. Another nice thing was the minimal
bike prep. I don't know how they got away with making it so you didn't need
to take the antifreeze out of the radiators. But, at the same time, they
don't advertise themselves as being either a race school, or a performance
school. Instead, as a skills/riding school. They explained it helped out with
insurance to a great deal. We had all sorts of people there, with all sorts of
bikes, in all sorts of attire.

- Kurt


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