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Buell Ulysiees
Any thughts on this bike?
I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all the
bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
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2006 BMW K1200GT
2004 H-D Road King Classic
1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville
1975 Triumph T160 Trident
1974 Norton Commando Interstate
1969 BSA R75 Red Rocket III
1962 Triumph T20 Tiger Cub
1958 BSA Super Bantam COCK
1954 Velocette MAC
Any thughts on this bike?
I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all the
bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
--
By it's very nature, my sig. makes this posting 100% on topic.
"Of course, you'll have the good taste not to mention that I posted this."
Thumper
"I don't want a pickle..."
* w w w .thumpers-roadhouse.ws
2007 H-D FXSTD Deuce
2006 BMW K1200GT
2004 H-D Road King Classic
1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville
1975 Triumph T160 Trident
1974 Norton Commando Interstate
1969 BSA R75 Red Rocket III
1962 Triumph T20 Tiger Cub
1958 BSA Super Bantam COCK
1954 Velocette MAC
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Mar 26, 10:11 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> Wouldn't it be great if I could spell?
>
> "Buell Ulysses"
>
> T.
Over on a.m.s there are a few Buell fans. You might want to ping
Steve or Mike overthere.
I'm doing a trackday put on by Buell in early May. They are supposed
to have a fleet of Buells to run around the track. I hope I test ride
a Uly.
Bryan
On Mar 26, 10:11 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> Wouldn't it be great if I could spell?
>
> "Buell Ulysses"
>
> T.
Over on a.m.s there are a few Buell fans. You might want to ping
Steve or Mike overthere.
I'm doing a trackday put on by Buell in early May. They are supposed
to have a fleet of Buells to run around the track. I hope I test ride
a Uly.
Bryan
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> Any thughts on this bike?
>
> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all the
> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
difference between cylinders ?"
On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> Any thughts on this bike?
>
> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all the
> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
difference between cylinders ?"
Re: Buell Ulysiees
"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote in message
news:1174929415.333827.152520@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
> On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>
>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>> the
>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>
> I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>
> The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
> somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
> of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
> cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
> "what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
> difference between cylinders ?"
>
And, if there's a heat problem, why didn't they mount an oil cooler on it,
like BMW does?
--
By it's very nature, my sig. makes this posting 100% on topic.
"Of course, you'll have the good taste not to mention that I posted this."
Thumper
"I don't want a pickle..."
* w w w .thumpers-roadhouse.ws
2007 H-D FXSTD Deuce
2006 BMW K1200GT
2004 H-D Road King Classic
1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville
1975 Triumph T160 Trident
1974 Norton Commando Interstate
1969 BSA R75 Red Rocket III
1962 Triumph T20 Tiger Cub
1958 BSA Super Bantam COCK
1954 Velocette MAC
>
>
>
"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote in message
news:1174929415.333827.152520@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
> On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>
>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>> the
>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>
> I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>
> The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
> somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
> of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
> cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
> "what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
> difference between cylinders ?"
>
And, if there's a heat problem, why didn't they mount an oil cooler on it,
like BMW does?
--
By it's very nature, my sig. makes this posting 100% on topic.
"Of course, you'll have the good taste not to mention that I posted this."
Thumper
"I don't want a pickle..."
* w w w .thumpers-roadhouse.ws
2007 H-D FXSTD Deuce
2006 BMW K1200GT
2004 H-D Road King Classic
1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville
1975 Triumph T160 Trident
1974 Norton Commando Interstate
1969 BSA R75 Red Rocket III
1962 Triumph T20 Tiger Cub
1958 BSA Super Bantam COCK
1954 Velocette MAC
>
>
>
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Mar 26, 10:00 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol . com > wrote in message
>
> news:1174929415.333827.152520@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> >> Any thughts on this bike?
>
> >> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
> >> the
> >> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>
> > I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>
> > The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
> > somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
> > of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
> > cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
> > "what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
> > difference between cylinders ?"
>
> And, if there's a heat problem, why didn't they mount an oil cooler on it,
> like BMW does?
One cylinder has a heat problem, one cylinder apparantly
doesn't. Probably more of a problem on fire roads than at
highway speeds.
One trick I've seen in the past on competition HDs is to
use two front cylinders, putting the rear exhaust valve
at the front of the cylinder where it gets better cooling.
Also requires two separate carbs.
Nothing really wrong with a fan I suppose. Just bothers
my sense of esthetics. You could also mount some heat
sensors. There's a kind that mounts under the spark
plug that would give you a pretty good idea how your
engine's doing.
On Mar 26, 10:00 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol . com > wrote in message
>
> news:1174929415.333827.152520@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
> >> Any thughts on this bike?
>
> >> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
> >> the
> >> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>
> > I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>
> > The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
> > somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
> > of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
> > cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
> > "what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
> > difference between cylinders ?"
>
> And, if there's a heat problem, why didn't they mount an oil cooler on it,
> like BMW does?
One cylinder has a heat problem, one cylinder apparantly
doesn't. Probably more of a problem on fire roads than at
highway speeds.
One trick I've seen in the past on competition HDs is to
use two front cylinders, putting the rear exhaust valve
at the front of the cylinder where it gets better cooling.
Also requires two separate carbs.
Nothing really wrong with a fan I suppose. Just bothers
my sense of esthetics. You could also mount some heat
sensors. There's a kind that mounts under the spark
plug that would give you a pretty good idea how your
engine's doing.
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
<Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>
>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all the
>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>
>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>
>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>difference between cylinders ?"
>
>
>
IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
motor.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
<Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>
>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all the
>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>
>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>
>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>difference between cylinders ?"
>
>
>
IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
motor.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
Re: Buell Ulysiees
"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>
>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>
>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>> the
>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>
>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>
>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>
>>
>>
> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
> motor.
I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
seriously about using the motor.
Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it was
a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
substantiate it.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>
>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>
>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>> the
>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>
>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>
>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>
>>
>>
> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
> motor.
I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
seriously about using the motor.
Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it was
a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
substantiate it.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>>> the
>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>
>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>
>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>> motor.
>
>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>seriously about using the motor.
>
>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it was
>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>substantiate it.
It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>>> the
>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>
>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>
>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>> motor.
>
>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>seriously about using the motor.
>
>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it was
>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>substantiate it.
It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
Re: Buell Ulysiees
"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>>>> the
>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>
>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>
>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>> motor.
>>
>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>seriously about using the motor.
>>
>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>was
>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>substantiate it.
>
> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in MCN
yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side in
the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped to
180 within the next few weeks.
Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>>>> the
>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>
>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>
>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>> motor.
>>
>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>seriously about using the motor.
>>
>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>was
>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>substantiate it.
>
> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in MCN
yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side in
the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped to
180 within the next few weeks.
Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:41:11 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>>
>>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>>> motor.
>>>
>>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
>>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>>seriously about using the motor.
>>>
>>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
>>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>>was
>>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>>substantiate it.
>>
>> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
>> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
>
>Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in MCN
>yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side in
>the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
>197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped to
>180 within the next few weeks.
>
>Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
>and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
Good.
You would think a designer would be able to come up with something. I
haven't looked at them enough to tell.
I'd prefer something more sport touring or adventure touring than
sport myself though.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:41:11 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>>
>>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>>> motor.
>>>
>>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be too
>>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>>seriously about using the motor.
>>>
>>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was instrumental
>>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>>was
>>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>>substantiate it.
>>
>> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
>> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
>
>Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in MCN
>yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side in
>the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
>197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped to
>180 within the next few weeks.
>
>Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
>and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
Good.
You would think a designer would be able to come up with something. I
haven't looked at them enough to tell.
I'd prefer something more sport touring or adventure touring than
sport myself though.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
Re: Buell Ulysiees
"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:ubin03tbao6dtjmbutf1c44m9m7tmcio72@4ax . com ...
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:41:11 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
>>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>>>> motor.
>>>>
>>>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be
>>>>too
>>>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>>>seriously about using the motor.
>>>>
>>>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was
>>>>instrumental
>>>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>>>was
>>>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>>>substantiate it.
>>>
>>> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
>>> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
>>
>>Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in
>>MCN
>>yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side
>>in
>>the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
>>197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped
>>to
>>180 within the next few weeks.
>>
>>Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
>>and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
>
> Good.
> You would think a designer would be able to come up with something. I
> haven't looked at them enough to tell.
> I'd prefer something more sport touring or adventure touring than
> sport myself though.
Well Bob, if someone can make a REAL sportsbike (and it certainly looks like
it) and someone has already made a cruiser using the same motor, I can't see
why your choices couldn't be made either. The V-Rod motor has a lot going
for it and it's only at the beginning of its development.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
news:ubin03tbao6dtjmbutf1c44m9m7tmcio72@4ax . com ...
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:41:11 GMT, "Beav"
> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
>>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>>>> motor.
>>>>
>>>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be
>>>>too
>>>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>>>seriously about using the motor.
>>>>
>>>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was
>>>>instrumental
>>>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>>>was
>>>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>>>substantiate it.
>>>
>>> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
>>> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
>>
>>Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in
>>MCN
>>yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side
>>in
>>the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
>>197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped
>>to
>>180 within the next few weeks.
>>
>>Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
>>and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
>
> Good.
> You would think a designer would be able to come up with something. I
> haven't looked at them enough to tell.
> I'd prefer something more sport touring or adventure touring than
> sport myself though.
Well Bob, if someone can make a REAL sportsbike (and it certainly looks like
it) and someone has already made a cruiser using the same motor, I can't see
why your choices couldn't be made either. The V-Rod motor has a lot going
for it and it's only at the beginning of its development.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:05:58 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>news:ubin03tbao6dtjmbutf1c44m9m7tmcio72@4ax . com ...
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:41:11 GMT, "Beav"
>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
>>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
>>>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>>>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>>>>> motor.
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be
>>>>>too
>>>>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>>>>seriously about using the motor.
>>>>>
>>>>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was
>>>>>instrumental
>>>>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>>>>was
>>>>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>>>>substantiate it.
>>>>
>>>> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
>>>> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
>>>
>>>Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in
>>>MCN
>>>yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side
>>>in
>>>the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
>>>197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped
>>>to
>>>180 within the next few weeks.
>>>
>>>Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
>>>and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
>>
>> Good.
>> You would think a designer would be able to come up with something. I
>> haven't looked at them enough to tell.
>> I'd prefer something more sport touring or adventure touring than
>> sport myself though.
>
>Well Bob, if someone can make a REAL sportsbike (and it certainly looks like
>it) and someone has already made a cruiser using the same motor, I can't see
>why your choices couldn't be made either. The V-Rod motor has a lot going
>for it and it's only at the beginning of its development.
You would think so wouldn't you.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:05:58 GMT, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>news:ubin03tbao6dtjmbutf1c44m9m7tmcio72@4ax . com ...
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:41:11 GMT, "Beav"
>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>news:c9hi03pk7a01lv4f4qj7ap5mtkldvinb0u@4ax . com ...
>>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 GMT, "Beav"
>>>> <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld . com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>>>news:go6g03d7dle2b2uh2vv4ageiu5ik2fdevv@4ax . com ...
>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2007 10:16:55 -0700, "Rob Kleinschmidt"
>>>>>> <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mar 26, 7:59 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@bigfoot . com > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any thughts on this bike?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was looking at a 2006, with under 1000 miles. I can get it, with
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bags and other goodies, like braided cables, for about 9.5K.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I like that general format. There's also the Vstrom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
>>>>>>>somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
>>>>>>>of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
>>>>>>>cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
>>>>>>>"what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
>>>>>>>difference between cylinders ?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO, they should build one, or a series of bikes, with the V-Rod
>>>>>> motor.
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that was Buell's intention, but the engine turned out to be
>>>>>too
>>>>>big and too heavy. I heard recently though that they're still thinking
>>>>>seriously about using the motor.
>>>>>
>>>>>Something else I heard too was that Buell was the one who was
>>>>>instrumental
>>>>>in getting Porche involved with the design of the V-Rod motor BEFORE it
>>>>>was
>>>>>a V-Rod motor, but that could've been bollocks as I've heard nothing to
>>>>>substantiate it.
>>>>
>>>> It would have to be a larger bike but I am sure it can be done.
>>>> Just need a longer wheelbase à la FJ1300 etc.
>>>
>>>Saw a one-off sportsbike (claim is it WILL be in production shortly) in
>>>MCN
>>>yesterday with the V-Rod engine for power. Radiators mounted on the side
>>>in
>>>the VFR style with a wheelbase shorter than a Fireblade and weighing in at
>>>197kg. Still with only 120 bhp, but the story also says that'll be upped
>>>to
>>>180 within the next few weeks.
>>>
>>>Seems like a V-Rod motor can be fitted into something substantialy smaller
>>>and lighter that the FJ series if there's enough will.
>>
>> Good.
>> You would think a designer would be able to come up with something. I
>> haven't looked at them enough to tell.
>> I'd prefer something more sport touring or adventure touring than
>> sport myself though.
>
>Well Bob, if someone can make a REAL sportsbike (and it certainly looks like
>it) and someone has already made a cruiser using the same motor, I can't see
>why your choices couldn't be made either. The V-Rod motor has a lot going
>for it and it's only at the beginning of its development.
You would think so wouldn't you.
--
Bob Mann
85 K100RS (traded for...)
04 FXD Stage 1(traded for...)
04 FLHTCUI 95" Stage 3
Re: Buell Ulysiees
"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote in
news:1174929415.333827.152520@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups . com :
> The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
> somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
> of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
> cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
> "what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
> difference between cylinders ?"
But, to be fair, water cooled bikes also have a fan, so adding a fan
to aid cooling of the rear cyhinder of an air cooled twin shouldn't
make it unreliable; if the fan on a water cooled bike fails, you've
got problems, too.
An oil cooler would certainly make sense on this bike, though; can't
figure out why Buell didn't put one on it.
-Keith
"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol . com > wrote in
news:1174929415.333827.152520@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups . com :
> The Buell has a fan for rear cylinder cooling and
> somehow I find that bothersome. Stuff along the lines
> of "if it needs the fan, maybe it ought to be water
> cooled ?", "what happens if the fan craps out ?" and
> "what kind of a design is it if there's a big heat
> difference between cylinders ?"
But, to be fair, water cooled bikes also have a fan, so adding a fan
to aid cooling of the rear cyhinder of an air cooled twin shouldn't
make it unreliable; if the fan on a water cooled bike fails, you've
got problems, too.
An oil cooler would certainly make sense on this bike, though; can't
figure out why Buell didn't put one on it.
-Keith
Re: Buell Ulysiees
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:02:55 -0500, Keith wrote:
> An oil cooler would certainly make sense on this bike, though; can't
> figure out why Buell didn't put one on it.
Perhaps they figured circulating the oil through the swingarm was good
enough.
- Nate >>
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
the pessimist fears this is true."
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:02:55 -0500, Keith wrote:
> An oil cooler would certainly make sense on this bike, though; can't
> figure out why Buell didn't put one on it.
Perhaps they figured circulating the oil through the swingarm was good
enough.
- Nate >>
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
the pessimist fears this is true."
