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OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
"Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
I have seen clips of faith healing and similar types of beliefs on tv
for years and never really thought much of it. i certainly never
thought it could be dangerous. But this time, obviously it's created
tragic, unintended consequences.
But here's the thing... I also read that Wisconsin seems to have a
state law that allows parents to not seek medical treatment for their
children for religous reasons. Isn't the safety of a child partially
the resonsibility of the community (me and you, collectively
represented by the state and child protective services)? Should a
child be left for dead simply because their parents are religous
nutcases? I can understand an adult say "no, i won't accept
treatment", but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders? The whole removal
of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
bullshit' and do what's right?
... ps i took this thread from one my other forums. Discuss
"Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
I have seen clips of faith healing and similar types of beliefs on tv
for years and never really thought much of it. i certainly never
thought it could be dangerous. But this time, obviously it's created
tragic, unintended consequences.
But here's the thing... I also read that Wisconsin seems to have a
state law that allows parents to not seek medical treatment for their
children for religous reasons. Isn't the safety of a child partially
the resonsibility of the community (me and you, collectively
represented by the state and child protective services)? Should a
child be left for dead simply because their parents are religous
nutcases? I can understand an adult say "no, i won't accept
treatment", but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders? The whole removal
of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
bullshit' and do what's right?
... ps i took this thread from one my other forums. Discuss
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
In article
<3dfe3868-4d55-470f-ae8b-fefd665114f9@s19g2000prg.googlegroups,com >,
HardWorkingPuppy <crazy80sm13@astound,net > wrote:
> "Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
> 11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
> diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
> religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
>
> http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
>
> I have seen clips of faith healing and similar types of beliefs on tv
> for years and never really thought much of it. i certainly never
> thought it could be dangerous. But this time, obviously it's created
> tragic, unintended consequences.
>
> But here's the thing... I also read that Wisconsin seems to have a
> state law that allows parents to not seek medical treatment for their
> children for religous reasons. Isn't the safety of a child partially
> the resonsibility of the community (me and you, collectively
> represented by the state and child protective services)? Should a
> child be left for dead simply because their parents are religous
> nutcases? I can understand an adult say "no, i won't accept
> treatment", but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
> the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders? The whole removal
> of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
> exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
> a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
> bullshit' and do what's right?
>
>
> ... ps i took this thread from one my other forums. Discuss
Be sure and thank your parents. It's not always easy to do the right
thing.
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
In article
<3dfe3868-4d55-470f-ae8b-fefd665114f9@s19g2000prg.googlegroups,com >,
HardWorkingPuppy <crazy80sm13@astound,net > wrote:
> "Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
> 11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
> diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
> religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
>
> http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
>
> I have seen clips of faith healing and similar types of beliefs on tv
> for years and never really thought much of it. i certainly never
> thought it could be dangerous. But this time, obviously it's created
> tragic, unintended consequences.
>
> But here's the thing... I also read that Wisconsin seems to have a
> state law that allows parents to not seek medical treatment for their
> children for religous reasons. Isn't the safety of a child partially
> the resonsibility of the community (me and you, collectively
> represented by the state and child protective services)? Should a
> child be left for dead simply because their parents are religous
> nutcases? I can understand an adult say "no, i won't accept
> treatment", but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
> the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders? The whole removal
> of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
> exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
> a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
> bullshit' and do what's right?
>
>
> ... ps i took this thread from one my other forums. Discuss
Be sure and thank your parents. It's not always easy to do the right
thing.
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Mar 31, 9:27 pm, HardWorkingDog <har...@mush.man> wrote:
> In article
> <3dfe3868-4d55-470f-ae8b-fefd66511...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups,com >,
>
>
>
> HardWorkingPuppy <crazy80s...@astound,net > wrote:
> > "Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
> > 11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
> > diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
> > religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
>
> > http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
>
> > I have seen clips of faith healing and similar types of beliefs on tv
> > for years and never really thought much of it. i certainly never
> > thought it could be dangerous. But this time, obviously it's created
> > tragic, unintended consequences.
>
> > But here's the thing... I also read that Wisconsin seems to have a
> > state law that allows parents to not seek medical treatment for their
> > children for religous reasons. Isn't the safety of a child partially
> > the resonsibility of the community (me and you, collectively
> > represented by the state and child protective services)? Should a
> > child be left for dead simply because their parents are religous
> > nutcases? I can understand an adult say "no, i won't accept
> > treatment", but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
> > the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders? The whole removal
> > of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
> > exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
> > a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
> > bullshit' and do what's right?
>
> > ... ps i took this thread from one my other forums. Discuss
>
> Be sure and thank your parents. It's not always easy to do the right
> thing.
>
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250
huh?
On Mar 31, 9:27 pm, HardWorkingDog <har...@mush.man> wrote:
> In article
> <3dfe3868-4d55-470f-ae8b-fefd66511...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups,com >,
>
>
>
> HardWorkingPuppy <crazy80s...@astound,net > wrote:
> > "Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
> > 11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
> > diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
> > religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
>
> > http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
>
> > I have seen clips of faith healing and similar types of beliefs on tv
> > for years and never really thought much of it. i certainly never
> > thought it could be dangerous. But this time, obviously it's created
> > tragic, unintended consequences.
>
> > But here's the thing... I also read that Wisconsin seems to have a
> > state law that allows parents to not seek medical treatment for their
> > children for religous reasons. Isn't the safety of a child partially
> > the resonsibility of the community (me and you, collectively
> > represented by the state and child protective services)? Should a
> > child be left for dead simply because their parents are religous
> > nutcases? I can understand an adult say "no, i won't accept
> > treatment", but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
> > the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders? The whole removal
> > of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
> > exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
> > a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
> > bullshit' and do what's right?
>
> > ... ps i took this thread from one my other forums. Discuss
>
> Be sure and thank your parents. It's not always easy to do the right
> thing.
>
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250
huh?
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT), HardWorkingPuppy
<crazy80sm13@astound,net > wrote:
>"Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
>11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
>diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
>religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
>
> http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
The link doesn't work for me, but since you're determined to draw
me into your web...
>Isn't the safety of a child partially the responsibility of the community...
Normally, no. I mean, it's not up to my neighbor to ensure that my
kid's not over here ODing on baby aspirin or something. I don't
subscribe to the "It Takes a Village" crap. It does, however, take
loving parents who give a shit and aren't so ignorant or stubborn as
to intentionally risk their children's welfare (like putting them on a
qwad with no helmet and rudimentary instruction).
I *would*, however, expect that same neighbor to offer assistance
to my kid if my kid was, say, about to get run over and the neighbor
had a chance to save him. But it's not his *responsibility* to watch
my kid playing in the street while I sit on my ass watching Geraldo.
>...but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
>the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders?
He (or she) sure does. Negligence is seldom excused in cases like
this, no matter the supposed justification. Hopefully this'll be no
different. Did the article mention whether these morons had any other
children? It's too late for the girl, but maybe they can protect any
other children they may have.
> The whole removal
>of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
>exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
>a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
>bullshit' and do what's right?
What were they, Scientologists? Wasn't there some celebrity
Scientologist controversy like this a few years ago? Or was that the
Amish?
I watched a History Channel special recently about venomous snakes
being used in religious ceremony. They went back to the origins and
followed the practice up to our current time. Apparently there's only
one state where the practice has yet to be banned, West Virginia, I
believe. And despite the belief that the Almighty will protect these
idiots when they handle the snakes, several have died over the years.
That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
between my religious beliefs and my common sense... the two peacefully
co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
But it's amazing what gets included under the "religion" umbrella.
To Satanists, *that's* a religion. In Waco, Koresh was a religion.
Back in '68 Manson viewed Helter Skelter as a religion. Hitler was a
Roman Catholic, but certainly unlike the Roman Catholics that I know
today. Radical Islam is a religion. And so on...
I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr,com
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT), HardWorkingPuppy
<crazy80sm13@astound,net > wrote:
>"Wisconsin authorities will consider filing charges in the case of an
>11-year-old girl who died on Easter Sunday of complications from
>diabetes that went untreated because police say her parents' obscure
>religious beliefs do not allow medical intervention."
>
> http :// abcnews.go,com /Health/Diabete...4536593&page=1
The link doesn't work for me, but since you're determined to draw
me into your web...
>Isn't the safety of a child partially the responsibility of the community...
Normally, no. I mean, it's not up to my neighbor to ensure that my
kid's not over here ODing on baby aspirin or something. I don't
subscribe to the "It Takes a Village" crap. It does, however, take
loving parents who give a shit and aren't so ignorant or stubborn as
to intentionally risk their children's welfare (like putting them on a
qwad with no helmet and rudimentary instruction).
I *would*, however, expect that same neighbor to offer assistance
to my kid if my kid was, say, about to get run over and the neighbor
had a chance to save him. But it's not his *responsibility* to watch
my kid playing in the street while I sit on my ass watching Geraldo.
>...but doesn't a child deserve the community to step in if
>the custody is irresponsible, and punish offenders?
He (or she) sure does. Negligence is seldom excused in cases like
this, no matter the supposed justification. Hopefully this'll be no
different. Did the article mention whether these morons had any other
children? It's too late for the girl, but maybe they can protect any
other children they may have.
> The whole removal
>of responsibility from these people due to some kind of religous
>exemption just seems like a total joke to me. At what point do we have
>a greater moral responsibility to say 'look, your religion is
>bullshit' and do what's right?
What were they, Scientologists? Wasn't there some celebrity
Scientologist controversy like this a few years ago? Or was that the
Amish?
I watched a History Channel special recently about venomous snakes
being used in religious ceremony. They went back to the origins and
followed the practice up to our current time. Apparently there's only
one state where the practice has yet to be banned, West Virginia, I
believe. And despite the belief that the Almighty will protect these
idiots when they handle the snakes, several have died over the years.
That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
between my religious beliefs and my common sense... the two peacefully
co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
But it's amazing what gets included under the "religion" umbrella.
To Satanists, *that's* a religion. In Waco, Koresh was a religion.
Back in '68 Manson viewed Helter Skelter as a religion. Hitler was a
Roman Catholic, but certainly unlike the Roman Catholics that I know
today. Radical Islam is a religion. And so on...
I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr,com
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
Dummy:
> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
Well... who does?
> the two peacefully
> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
Oops. You picked the right word there.
> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
Religion is all bullshit.
Dummy:
> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
Well... who does?
> the two peacefully
> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
Oops. You picked the right word there.
> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
Religion is all bullshit.
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl
<flyingterrapin@chillybits.org> wrote:
>Dummy:
>
>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>
>Well... who does?
Yeah, I figured somebody would pick apart whatever I wrote on this
issue. My mistake for assuming "my" common sense is "universal" common
sense, I guess. Anal retentive often trumps the best intended writing.
I blame Charles.
>> the two peacefully
>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>
>Oops. You picked the right word there.
Thanks, it's not to be commended.
>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>
>Religion is all bullshit.
That's one opinion.
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr,com
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl
<flyingterrapin@chillybits.org> wrote:
>Dummy:
>
>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>
>Well... who does?
Yeah, I figured somebody would pick apart whatever I wrote on this
issue. My mistake for assuming "my" common sense is "universal" common
sense, I guess. Anal retentive often trumps the best intended writing.
I blame Charles.
>> the two peacefully
>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>
>Oops. You picked the right word there.
Thanks, it's not to be commended.
>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>
>Religion is all bullshit.
That's one opinion.
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr,com
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
Mike W. wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dummy:
>>
>>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>> Well... who does?
>>
>>> the two peacefully
>>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>> Oops. You picked the right word there.
>>
>>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>> Religion is all bullshit.
>
> A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so many
> of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
> obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
>
> I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
> reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper something
> appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing your
> great ideas.
Thanks bunches. I pared my reply waaaay down to arrive at that final
version.
Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
compliment. He didn't catch on.
Mike W. wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dummy:
>>
>>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>> Well... who does?
>>
>>> the two peacefully
>>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>> Oops. You picked the right word there.
>>
>>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>> Religion is all bullshit.
>
> A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so many
> of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
> obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
>
> I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
> reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper something
> appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing your
> great ideas.
Thanks bunches. I pared my reply waaaay down to arrive at that final
version.
Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
compliment. He didn't catch on.
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:50 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
wrote:
>Mike W. wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dummy:
>>>
>>>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>>>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>>> Well... who does?
>>>
>>>> the two peacefully
>>>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>>> Oops. You picked the right word there.
>>>
>>>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>>>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>>> Religion is all bullshit.
>>
>> A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so many
>> of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
>> obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
>>
>> I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
>> reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper something
>> appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing your
>> great ideas.
>
>Thanks bunches. I pared my reply waaaay down to arrive at that final
>version.
>
>Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
>compliment. He didn't catch on.
I don't crap on my teachers.
I don't hold casual on-line communications up to a Strunk and White level
of rigor that I might expect in other venues, and have no good reason to do
anything other than give the benefit of the doubt to flea shit like
close-in spelling errors... Looks more like a hasty selection with the
spell checker to me. Baboons and balloons and all.
I do, as some others may, tend to form conclusions about the depth of
someone's ability to contribute credibly by their seeming reliance on 5th
grade/internet style.
I'm just curious, but you wouldn't resonate with the term "insider", would
you?
--
Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P (training)
99 KZ1000P (rider)
00 Beta Rev-3
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:50 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
wrote:
>Mike W. wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dummy:
>>>
>>>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>>>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>>> Well... who does?
>>>
>>>> the two peacefully
>>>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>>> Oops. You picked the right word there.
>>>
>>>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>>>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>>> Religion is all bullshit.
>>
>> A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so many
>> of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
>> obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
>>
>> I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
>> reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper something
>> appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing your
>> great ideas.
>
>Thanks bunches. I pared my reply waaaay down to arrive at that final
>version.
>
>Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
>compliment. He didn't catch on.
I don't crap on my teachers.
I don't hold casual on-line communications up to a Strunk and White level
of rigor that I might expect in other venues, and have no good reason to do
anything other than give the benefit of the doubt to flea shit like
close-in spelling errors... Looks more like a hasty selection with the
spell checker to me. Baboons and balloons and all.
I do, as some others may, tend to form conclusions about the depth of
someone's ability to contribute credibly by their seeming reliance on 5th
grade/internet style.
I'm just curious, but you wouldn't resonate with the term "insider", would
you?
--
Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P (training)
99 KZ1000P (rider)
00 Beta Rev-3
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:11:34 -0400, Mike W. <outofthe@emailbiz,com >
wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:50 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>wrote:
>
>>Mike W. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
>>compliment. He didn't catch on.
>
> Looks more like a hasty selection with the
>spell checker to me. Baboons and balloons and all.
No, he caught me. It was late and I was in a hurry. Contrary to
his supposition though, I caught on just fine (hence the
self-deprecating "commended" reply.) I dare say Mr. Beryl knew what I
meant though. I guess I just made it too easy for him to be an ass. My
bad.
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr,com
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:11:34 -0400, Mike W. <outofthe@emailbiz,com >
wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:39:50 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>wrote:
>
>>Mike W. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
>>compliment. He didn't catch on.
>
> Looks more like a hasty selection with the
>spell checker to me. Baboons and balloons and all.
No, he caught me. It was late and I was in a hurry. Contrary to
his supposition though, I caught on just fine (hence the
self-deprecating "commended" reply.) I dare say Mr. Beryl knew what I
meant though. I guess I just made it too easy for him to be an ass. My
bad.
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr,com
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
"Beryl" <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org> wrote in message
news:NOGdnUMMhMR9hm7anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@toastnet...
> Mike W. wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl
<flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dummy:
> >>
> >>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
> >>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
> >> Well... who does?
> >>
> >>> the two peacefully
> >>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
> >> Oops. You picked the right word there.
> >>
> >>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
> >>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
> >> Religion is all bullshit.
> >
> > A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so
many
> > of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
> > obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
> >
> > I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
> > reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper
something
> > appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing
your
> > great ideas.
>
> Thanks bunches. I pared my reply waaaay down to arrive at that final
> version.
>
> Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
> compliment. He didn't catch on.
Beryl,
Please don't cross swords (or pens) with this hubris riddled carcass that
rolls up on the shores from time to time. By the way, shaking these bozos
like Brain, Snoot, and ChChCharles, out of their puffery, boutique, and
amply padded comfort zones is my job.
What's your ride?
Joe XL600R
"Beryl" <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org> wrote in message
news:NOGdnUMMhMR9hm7anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@toastnet...
> Mike W. wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl
<flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dummy:
> >>
> >>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
> >>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
> >> Well... who does?
> >>
> >>> the two peacefully
> >>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
> >> Oops. You picked the right word there.
> >>
> >>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
> >>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
> >> Religion is all bullshit.
> >
> > A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so
many
> > of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
> > obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
> >
> > I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
> > reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper
something
> > appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing
your
> > great ideas.
>
> Thanks bunches. I pared my reply waaaay down to arrive at that final
> version.
>
> Maybe you'll explain to Dummy the difference between complement and
> compliment. He didn't catch on.
Beryl,
Please don't cross swords (or pens) with this hubris riddled carcass that
rolls up on the shores from time to time. By the way, shaking these bozos
like Brain, Snoot, and ChChCharles, out of their puffery, boutique, and
amply padded comfort zones is my job.
What's your ride?
Joe XL600R
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
Joseph Rooney wrote:
...
> Beryl,
>
> Please don't cross swords (or pens) with this hubris riddled carcass that
> rolls up on the shores from time to time. By the way, shaking these bozos
> like Brain, Snoot, and ChChCharles, out of their puffery, boutique, and
> amply padded comfort zones is my job.
>
> What's your ride?
<mumble> XL80S
>
> Joe XL600R
Joseph Rooney wrote:
...
> Beryl,
>
> Please don't cross swords (or pens) with this hubris riddled carcass that
> rolls up on the shores from time to time. By the way, shaking these bozos
> like Brain, Snoot, and ChChCharles, out of their puffery, boutique, and
> amply padded comfort zones is my job.
>
> What's your ride?
<mumble> XL80S
>
> Joe XL600R
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:25:55 -0400, Mike W.
<outofthe@emailbiz,com > wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>wrote:
>
>>Dummy:
>>
>>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>>
>>Well... who does?
>>
>>> the two peacefully
>>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>>
>>Oops. You picked the right word there.
>>
>>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>>
>>Religion is all bullshit.
>
>A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so many
>of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
>obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
>
>I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
>reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper something
>appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing your
>great ideas.
Well crafted.
I don't grade.
----
Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
----
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:25:55 -0400, Mike W.
<outofthe@emailbiz,com > wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:08:25 -0700, Beryl <flyingterrapin@chillybits.org>
>wrote:
>
>>Dummy:
>>
>>> That said, I'm proud to be a Christian. But then, I have no quarrel
>>> between my religious beliefs and my common sense...
>>
>>Well... who does?
>>
>>> the two peacefully
>>> co-exist and, I like to believe, compliment one another.
>>
>>Oops. You picked the right word there.
>>
>>> I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I'm also a big fan
>>> of respect, common sense and decency. But what do I know.
>>
>>Religion is all bullshit.
>
>A rare and incredibly persuasive style of point making employed by so many
>of the greatest thinkers throughout history. Your method betrays your
>obvious association with The Institute for Advanced Study!
>
>I only pray that no one is hurt in the rush in RMD to line up and
>reverently lay their pens before you on your table, and whisper something
>appreciative, inspiring.. but still terribly inadequate in recognizing your
>great ideas.
Well crafted.
I don't grade.
----
Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
----
Re: OT Faith Healing- fun and games until children die?
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:24:17 -0500, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS@nc.rr,com >
wrote:
>I don't grade.
I've given up on ever seeing His recognition expressed fairly in this life.
I'm not sure if you knew this but *I* wrote the CG post....
--
Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P (training)
99 KZ1000P (rider)
00 Beta Rev-3
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:24:17 -0500, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS@nc.rr,com >
wrote:
>I don't grade.
I've given up on ever seeing His recognition expressed fairly in this life.
I'm not sure if you knew this but *I* wrote the CG post....
--
Mike W.
96 XR400
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
99 KZ1000P (training)
99 KZ1000P (rider)
00 Beta Rev-3
