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computer ? solid state hard drives

Reply from: john
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 17:38
computer ? solid state hard drives

in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
much of my time (so I can go riding more)
Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?

john



Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 18:11
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

On Apr 11, 12:38 pm, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
> in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
> much of my time (so I can go riding more)
> Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>
> john

As far as I know, solid state devices have limited writing
capabilities, I mean, you have a limited ammount of times that you can
write a particular sector before it goes bad.

* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash memory

what's wrong with SCSI and SATA?

I've heard about a laptop computer that has this kind of "disk"...
* w w w .informationweek . com /news/hardware/desktop/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=VIX2ORAK04S4WQSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID 2400049& requestid=104779

-- Tiago

Reply from: XR650L_Dave
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 18:44
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

On Apr 11, 11:38 am, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
> in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
> much of my time (so I can go riding more)
> Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>
> john


Close, but not yet, according to what I see on slashdot.


Dave

Reply from: FiftyPlus
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 19:16
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

On Apr 11, 11:38 am, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
> in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
> much of my time (so I can go riding more)
> Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>
> john

We've been using them for a couple of years as windows boot drive for
high altitude use. No trouble so far. Having said that I'm not
answering the phone the rest of the day. Tiago brings up the limited
number of writes issue but they also have onboard facilities that
'lock out' and move writes to worn out sectors. Some but not all
SSD's support SMART capabilities that allow for 'health' monitoring to
give advance warning about immenent failures. Large capacity SSD's
are pricey.

Reply from: john
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 19:38
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

limited writes? I thought they'd go 10 + years no worries, and by then
something better would be out.
searching....... 300k-500k instead of the claimed 1.5m hmm

re thinking the idea.. maybe SSD for the OS & separate one for
the database then do hot backups to normal hard drives...

"FiftyPlus" <aldavis@mich . com > wrote in message
news:37a8778b-3577-4d18-98f0-aaecb6adde9d@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
On Apr 11, 11:38 am, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
> in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
> much of my time (so I can go riding more)
> Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>
> john

We've been using them for a couple of years as windows boot drive for
high altitude use. No trouble so far. Having said that I'm not
answering the phone the rest of the day. Tiago brings up the limited
number of writes issue but they also have onboard facilities that
'lock out' and move writes to worn out sectors. Some but not all
SSD's support SMART capabilities that allow for 'health' monitoring to
give advance warning about immenent failures. Large capacity SSD's
are pricey.



Reply from: dsc-ky
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 21:16
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

On Apr 11, 11:38 am, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
> in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
> much of my time (so I can go riding more)
> Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>
> john

If a standard drive goes bad there are quite a few people equipped to
get the data back... are there people that can do that with solid
state and are those people accessible?

Reply from: scrape
Date: 12 Apr 2008, 01:55
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:16:49 -0700 (PDT), dsc-ky
<Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:

>On Apr 11, 11:38 am, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
>> in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
>> much of my time (so I can go riding more)
>> Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>>
>> john
>
>If a standard drive goes bad there are quite a few people equipped to
>get the data back... are there people that can do that with solid
>state and are those people accessible?

Good question. See if Ontrack will do it. If they won't, that's
a huge mark against them for today.



----
Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
----

Reply from: scrape
Date: 12 Apr 2008, 01:56
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:38:02 -0400, "john" <not@this.add> wrote:

>in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
>much of my time (so I can go riding more)
>Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?

RAID5

Drives are cheap.

You're welcome.


----
Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
----

Reply from: john
Date: 12 Apr 2008, 22:15
Re: computer ? solid state hard drives

got raid 5 on the Dell's... just like to
replace servers every ~3 years...
john

"scrape" <scrapeNOTHANKS@nc.rr . com > wrote in message
news:bkuvv3pr0eueu9354h8s8nr1n1goc1o70l@4ax . com ...
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:38:02 -0400, "john" <not@this.add> wrote:
>
> >in the interest of building a server that doesn't require
> >much of my time (so I can go riding more)
> >Has anyone setup a light data cruncher with SSD's ?
>
> RAID5
>
> Drives are cheap.
>
> You're welcome.
>
>
> ----
> Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
> ----





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