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The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 17:00
The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

Went riding yesterday. It was a great ride.

It all started last monday, when I got an email inviting me to go to a
new bike shop in town. - This guy will start renting DR400 bikes if
anyone is listening <g> - and for the inauguration party, Dimas Matos,
a pro rally rider, who have raced Dakar rally among others will be
there trying to teach some techniques... Since I have friends who are
starting to ride and don't object paying the entry fee (pricey R$50,
or something around 20~25 USD), I forwarded the mail to him. He
replied asking when I'd go riding...

Then, I called other riding buddies. We were supposed to met at the
gas station at 8, but... A friend snapped his gear lever 6am...
Sunday... he had no doubt. He drove right to the nearest bike shop
owner *house*, woke him up and made him open the shop... :-) Ended up
we leaving for the ride almost 10am. It rained all night until early
in the morning... One friend had those horrible metzeler enduro3 as
"tires"...

The group was big: I (XR250), Robson (XTZ250), Gabriel (XLX350R),
Eduardo (NX"R"350), Charles (XR250, street tires), Eugenio (XR250),
Paulista (XTZ125), whatshisnameagain (XR250). Right when we crossed
the railroad bridge over Jaboatao river, four guys on two bikes. Blood
froze, we immediately thought them as thieves, but thanks, wasn't. Was
four wackos, riding two up on XR250s.

We took the old dutch road up to the jar trail. I was one of the last,
behind Robson and one wacko. Robson passed the wacko and crashed. It
was ugly. He skidded on a mud puddle and went over the bars, really
ugly. Lucky he wasn't hurt...

We kept on riding, went through the worst part of the jar trail... The
sand is turning into quicksand and things will be very amusing in the
next few months, but for now, just mud, mud, mud... We rode through
the hotel ruins over Itapuama beach to climb a hill, where Charles
alleged street tires and took the detour. One of the wackos crashed -
twice - I laughed so much. Everybody made it up no problem...

Up to a little trail that remains nameless (why? We ride this section
for years and nobody has a name for it - nobody!!). First fallen tree
of the ride, made us go around through thick mud... I was first, of
course... Wackos turned around, thanks, I could not stand seeing those
guys asking for an accident to happen, besides, I don't quite like to
ride with complete strangers, even more when they are of the insane
type.

Gabriel had his first headache with his bike, which refused to ride
even going downhill. I helped with a little push and it fired up.
After that, we took more woods, more single track and went straight to
the zombie woods... No antenna trail this time, it would be near
impossible to go down, since it was drizzling again.

The XTZ250 is a fuel injected Yamaha four stroke. Right before
entering the zombie woods, there is a little creek to cross. Mid
summer, this creek is dry, but now, it is half full, about 3/4 of
front wheel height, and his bike stalled - and refused to start. We
pushed him back so I could bump start him, which I did and his bike
fired up right away, crossing the creek with no trouble this time.
Robson actually is now starting to think that a FI bike is not *that*
good of an idea..

I love to ride really fast on this trail. It is a one way trail by
convention of all trail users, it is unlikely someone riding
backwards, so I am not afraid to *go*! Because of this, I dodged
everyone after the regroup after Robson did cross the creek and got
lead. Well, until a very thick tree that had fallen not long ago
blocked the trail. Group rejoined, we decided to go around and I lost
the lead. While there, an old man, alone on a XR250 arrived, said
excuse-me a couple times after hitting his handlebars on other's bikes
and kept going solo... Weird people seems to be everywhere this day -
and it only would get worse...

Well, I got behind Paulista. He rides ok, but has a 125 and not much
riding time... I wish I could pass him, but it's difficult on twisty
the single track...

On top of zombie woods, we took the difficult way and Paulista managed
to go over a cliff and whoever said 125 bikes are light is because
they never had to pull a 125 from a steep downhill.

Bottom of the hill, a plant of pitangas (surinam cherry in english,
weird name. I wonder if this thing is indeed from Surinam), small,
sour... The summer did not treat this plant well, it got water
starvation... Let's see if the winter treat that great plant better.

To the grass hill there are two ways. Shorter, going on the bottom of
a hill, but this is a twisty ride, or, easier, longer, on top of the
hill. I took the bottom way and could pass everyone, lol!

We arrived grass hill. Friends climbed it ok, I wheelied and stalled
bike in the middle of the second section, Paulista crashed, Charles
crashed... In the meantime, another group came. People riding all
kinds of bikes, from a really young and arrogant XR200 rider to an old
guy on a ratty XLX350R, and that guy with that really old Yamaha DT180
entirely painted in yellow - including rims and spokes. He did ok on
the first section, but had to push his bike - walking beside it - on
the second section. These DT180s are screamy bikes with little torque
down low and if the rider miss the momentum is wheelie-fest on hill
climbs.

whatshisnameagain was having trouble with his gearbox and got stuck.
Some other guys helped him...

Up there, we went straigth to the bar do doido, watch that ugly (face)
but beautiful (from neck down) waitress... And of course, eat
macaxeira, chicken, beans, clams and crabs. Lots of food.

After that, we took a trail that used to be a race track, now it is
covered with new plants and rather difficult to go through, but fun
anyway. From there to the Paraiso beach trail, where I waited for ages
for Gabriel and his bike that only starts when the bike wants, not the
owner... There's a nice jump up there...

And then, the mango woods trail. No mangoes anymore, the season ended,
but it is nice to ride among so many mango trees.

It was drizzling and we decided to ride down Gaibu beach rock.
Everybody did nice, except well, Charles locked his brakes on a very
steep hill, skidded and almost crashed. I and three more hit a
submerged rock and hit the balls in the tank - it hurts! On the very
bottom of the rock there is a very tiny creek, that was, as always,
tiny and narrow, but was deep! After our little "problem", the others
took a slightly variation of the way down path and avoided much
pain... :-)

riding, riding, riding, easy, large roads up the place we call "shit
hill". Got down and had to cross a deep creek, when Robson's bike
stalled again. Now I am starting to think that FI on dirt bikes aren't
really a good idea... Deep, beach sand, because the hill leads right
to the beach, I had to tie a rope on his bike and pull hard... It
started.

From there, we took some rock riding over Pedra Preta beach, easy, no
problem, fun too...

Then, Itapuama and again, the Jar Trail. We stopped in the beggining
of the difficult muddy section and saw the group before mentioned and
the strangest of all: two DT180s and a CG125 (this is a STREET BIKE!).
One DT180 was being towed by the street bike... Oh well... More
lunatics than I can handle.

We passed these guys... Gabriel even advised them to go back... And we
met the other group, the XLX350R rider could not start his bike and
Gabriel did his best to push him, but the guy was not a rider, stupid,
doesn't even know how to be towed and gets on the mud with a shitty
bike. Amazing, really. Well, not our business, let his friends help
him, his group was larger then ours.

I got home by 6:30pm, tired... But it worth it. :-) I enjoy riding in
winter, even though it is an expensive ride: Two bikes with rear disk
brakes and new pads returned home with no rear pads anymore (I and
Robson). My fronts are shot, so thin that I wonder if they would last
a ride in dry trails. Eduardo hit a rock and it snapped his left
footpeg and his gear lever. He stuck it on third and rode most of the
way home stuck in third. Robson, on his crash, destroyed the
headlight... Now, I have to buy a new set of pads and go riding again!

-- Tiago

Reply from: Craig
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 18:30
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

On Apr 14, 11:00 am, Tiago Rocha <diariodastril...@gmail,com > wrote:
> Went riding yesterday. It was a great ride.

Yesterday was lunatic day... why else would I have gone riding?

I always enjoy your RRs. I'm not a big fan of mud, but you manage to
make it sound fun.

Craig

Reply from: XR650L_Dave
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 19:22
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

On Apr 14, 11:00 am, Tiago Rocha <diariodastril...@gmail,com > wrote:
> Went riding yesterday. It was a great ride.
>
> It all started last monday, when I got an email inviting me to go to a
> new bike shop in town. - This guy will start renting DR400 bikes if
> anyone is listening <g> - and for the inauguration party, Dimas Matos,
> a pro rally rider, who have raced Dakar rally among others will be
> there trying to teach some techniques... Since I have friends who are
> starting to ride and don't object paying the entry fee (pricey R$50,
> or something around 20~25 USD), I forwarded the mail to him. He
> replied asking when I'd go riding...
>
> Then, I called other riding buddies. We were supposed to met at the
> gas station at 8, but... A friend snapped his gear lever 6am...
> Sunday... he had no doubt. He drove right to the nearest bike shop
> owner *house*, woke him up and made him open the shop... :-) Ended up
> we leaving for the ride almost 10am. It rained all night until early
> in the morning... One friend had those horrible metzeler enduro3 as
> "tires"...
>
> The group was big: I (XR250), Robson (XTZ250), Gabriel (XLX350R),
> Eduardo (NX"R"350), Charles (XR250, street tires), Eugenio (XR250),
> Paulista (XTZ125), whatshisnameagain (XR250). Right when we crossed
> the railroad bridge over Jaboatao river, four guys on two bikes. Blood
> froze, we immediately thought them as thieves, but thanks, wasn't. Was
> four wackos, riding two up on XR250s.
>
> We took the old dutch road up to the jar trail. I was one of the last,
> behind Robson and one wacko. Robson passed the wacko and crashed. It
> was ugly. He skidded on a mud puddle and went over the bars, really
> ugly. Lucky he wasn't hurt...
>
> We kept on riding, went through the worst part of the jar trail... The
> sand is turning into quicksand and things will be very amusing in the
> next few months, but for now, just mud, mud, mud... We rode through
> the hotel ruins over Itapuama beach to climb a hill, where Charles
> alleged street tires and took the detour. One of the wackos crashed -
> twice - I laughed so much. Everybody made it up no problem...
>
> Up to a little trail that remains nameless (why? We ride this section
> for years and nobody has a name for it - nobody!!). First fallen tree
> of the ride, made us go around through thick mud... I was first, of
> course... Wackos turned around, thanks, I could not stand seeing those
> guys asking for an accident to happen, besides, I don't quite like to
> ride with complete strangers, even more when they are of the insane
> type.
>
> Gabriel had his first headache with his bike, which refused to ride
> even going downhill. I helped with a little push and it fired up.
> After that, we took more woods, more single track and went straight to
> the zombie woods... No antenna trail this time, it would be near
> impossible to go down, since it was drizzling again.
>
> The XTZ250 is a fuel injected Yamaha four stroke. Right before
> entering the zombie woods, there is a little creek to cross. Mid
> summer, this creek is dry, but now, it is half full, about 3/4 of
> front wheel height, and his bike stalled - and refused to start. We
> pushed him back so I could bump start him, which I did and his bike
> fired up right away, crossing the creek with no trouble this time.
> Robson actually is now starting to think that a FI bike is not *that*
> good of an idea..
>
> I love to ride really fast on this trail. It is a one way trail by
> convention of all trail users, it is unlikely someone riding
> backwards, so I am not afraid to *go*! Because of this, I dodged
> everyone after the regroup after Robson did cross the creek and got
> lead. Well, until a very thick tree that had fallen not long ago
> blocked the trail. Group rejoined, we decided to go around and I lost
> the lead. While there, an old man, alone on a XR250 arrived, said
> excuse-me a couple times after hitting his handlebars on other's bikes
> and kept going solo... Weird people seems to be everywhere this day -
> and it only would get worse...
>
> Well, I got behind Paulista. He rides ok, but has a 125 and not much
> riding time... I wish I could pass him, but it's difficult on twisty
> the single track...
>
> On top of zombie woods, we took the difficult way and Paulista managed
> to go over a cliff and whoever said 125 bikes are light is because
> they never had to pull a 125 from a steep downhill.
>
> Bottom of the hill, a plant of pitangas (surinam cherry in english,
> weird name. I wonder if this thing is indeed from Surinam), small,
> sour... The summer did not treat this plant well, it got water
> starvation... Let's see if the winter treat that great plant better.
>
> To the grass hill there are two ways. Shorter, going on the bottom of
> a hill, but this is a twisty ride, or, easier, longer, on top of the
> hill. I took the bottom way and could pass everyone, lol!
>
> We arrived grass hill. Friends climbed it ok, I wheelied and stalled
> bike in the middle of the second section, Paulista crashed, Charles
> crashed... In the meantime, another group came. People riding all
> kinds of bikes, from a really young and arrogant XR200 rider to an old
> guy on a ratty XLX350R, and that guy with that really old Yamaha DT180
> entirely painted in yellow - including rims and spokes. He did ok on
> the first section, but had to push his bike - walking beside it - on
> the second section. These DT180s are screamy bikes with little torque
> down low and if the rider miss the momentum is wheelie-fest on hill
> climbs.
>
> whatshisnameagain was having trouble with his gearbox and got stuck.
> Some other guys helped him...
>
> Up there, we went straigth to the bar do doido, watch that ugly (face)
> but beautiful (from neck down) waitress... And of course, eat
> macaxeira, chicken, beans, clams and crabs. Lots of food.
>
> After that, we took a trail that used to be a race track, now it is
> covered with new plants and rather difficult to go through, but fun
> anyway. From there to the Paraiso beach trail, where I waited for ages
> for Gabriel and his bike that only starts when the bike wants, not the
> owner... There's a nice jump up there...
>
> And then, the mango woods trail. No mangoes anymore, the season ended,
> but it is nice to ride among so many mango trees.
>
> It was drizzling and we decided to ride down Gaibu beach rock.
> Everybody did nice, except well, Charles locked his brakes on a very
> steep hill, skidded and almost crashed. I and three more hit a
> submerged rock and hit the balls in the tank - it hurts! On the very
> bottom of the rock there is a very tiny creek, that was, as always,
> tiny and narrow, but was deep! After our little "problem", the others
> took a slightly variation of the way down path and avoided much
> pain... :-)
>
> riding, riding, riding, easy, large roads up the place we call "shit
> hill". Got down and had to cross a deep creek, when Robson's bike
> stalled again. Now I am starting to think that FI on dirt bikes aren't
> really a good idea... Deep, beach sand, because the hill leads right
> to the beach, I had to tie a rope on his bike and pull hard... It
> started.
>
> From there, we took some rock riding over Pedra Preta beach, easy, no
> problem, fun too...
>
> Then, Itapuama and again, the Jar Trail. We stopped in the beggining
> of the difficult muddy section and saw the group before mentioned and
> the strangest of all: two DT180s and a CG125 (this is a STREET BIKE!).
> One DT180 was being towed by the street bike... Oh well... More
> lunatics than I can handle.
>
> We passed these guys... Gabriel even advised them to go back... And we
> met the other group, the XLX350R rider could not start his bike and
> Gabriel did his best to push him, but the guy was not a rider, stupid,
> doesn't even know how to be towed and gets on the mud with a shitty
> bike. Amazing, really. Well, not our business, let his friends help
> him, his group was larger then ours.
>
> I got home by 6:30pm, tired... But it worth it. :-) I enjoy riding in
> winter, even though it is an expensive ride: Two bikes with rear disk
> brakes and new pads returned home with no rear pads anymore (I and
> Robson). My fronts are shot, so thin that I wonder if they would last
> a ride in dry trails. Eduardo hit a rock and it snapped his left
> footpeg and his gear lever. He stuck it on third and rode most of the
> way home stuck in third. Robson, on his crash, destroyed the
> headlight... Now, I have to buy a new set of pads and go riding again!
>
> -- Tiago



Damn hooligans!

Dave

Reply from: Wudsracer
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 21:17
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

*******************************8
>On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:00:33 -0700 (PDT), Tiago Rocha <diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote:

>Went riding yesterday. It was a great ride.
>
>It all started last monday, when I got an email inviting me to go to a
>new bike shop in town. - This guy will start renting DR400 bikes if
>anyone is listening <g> - and for the inauguration party, Dimas Matos,
>a pro rally rider, who have raced Dakar rally among others will be
>there trying to teach some techniques... Since I have friends who are
>starting to ride and don't object paying the entry fee (pricey R$50,
>or something around 20~25 USD), I forwarded the mail to him. He
>replied asking when I'd go riding...
>
>Then, I called other riding buddies. We were supposed to met at the
>gas station at 8, but... A friend snapped his gear lever 6am...
>Sunday... he had no doubt. He drove right to the nearest bike shop
>owner *house*, woke him up and made him open the shop... :-) Ended up
>we leaving for the ride almost 10am. It rained all night until early
>in the morning... One friend had those horrible metzeler enduro3 as
>"tires"...
>
>The group was big: I (XR250), Robson (XTZ250), Gabriel (XLX350R),
>Eduardo (NX"R"350), Charles (XR250, street tires), Eugenio (XR250),
>Paulista (XTZ125), whatshisnameagain (XR250). Right when we crossed
>the railroad bridge over Jaboatao river, four guys on two bikes. Blood
>froze, we immediately thought them as thieves, but thanks, wasn't. Was
>four wackos, riding two up on XR250s.
>
>We took the old dutch road up to the jar trail. I was one of the last,
>behind Robson and one wacko. Robson passed the wacko and crashed. It
>was ugly. He skidded on a mud puddle and went over the bars, really
>ugly. Lucky he wasn't hurt...
>
>We kept on riding, went through the worst part of the jar trail... The
>sand is turning into quicksand and things will be very amusing in the
>next few months, but for now, just mud, mud, mud... We rode through
>the hotel ruins over Itapuama beach to climb a hill, where Charles
>alleged street tires and took the detour. One of the wackos crashed -
>twice - I laughed so much. Everybody made it up no problem...
>
>Up to a little trail that remains nameless (why? We ride this section
>for years and nobody has a name for it - nobody!!). First fallen tree
>of the ride, made us go around through thick mud... I was first, of
>course... Wackos turned around, thanks, I could not stand seeing those
>guys asking for an accident to happen, besides, I don't quite like to
>ride with complete strangers, even more when they are of the insane
>type.
>
>Gabriel had his first headache with his bike, which refused to ride
>even going downhill. I helped with a little push and it fired up.
>After that, we took more woods, more single track and went straight to
>the zombie woods... No antenna trail this time, it would be near
>impossible to go down, since it was drizzling again.
>
>The XTZ250 is a fuel injected Yamaha four stroke. Right before
>entering the zombie woods, there is a little creek to cross. Mid
>summer, this creek is dry, but now, it is half full, about 3/4 of
>front wheel height, and his bike stalled - and refused to start. We
>pushed him back so I could bump start him, which I did and his bike
>fired up right away, crossing the creek with no trouble this time.
>Robson actually is now starting to think that a FI bike is not *that*
>good of an idea..
>
>I love to ride really fast on this trail. It is a one way trail by
>convention of all trail users, it is unlikely someone riding
>backwards, so I am not afraid to *go*! Because of this, I dodged
>everyone after the regroup after Robson did cross the creek and got
>lead. Well, until a very thick tree that had fallen not long ago
>blocked the trail. Group rejoined, we decided to go around and I lost
>the lead. While there, an old man, alone on a XR250 arrived, said
>excuse-me a couple times after hitting his handlebars on other's bikes
>and kept going solo... Weird people seems to be everywhere this day -
>and it only would get worse...
>
>Well, I got behind Paulista. He rides ok, but has a 125 and not much
>riding time... I wish I could pass him, but it's difficult on twisty
>the single track...
>
>On top of zombie woods, we took the difficult way and Paulista managed
>to go over a cliff and whoever said 125 bikes are light is because
>they never had to pull a 125 from a steep downhill.
>
>Bottom of the hill, a plant of pitangas (surinam cherry in english,
>weird name. I wonder if this thing is indeed from Surinam), small,
>sour... The summer did not treat this plant well, it got water
>starvation... Let's see if the winter treat that great plant better.
>
>To the grass hill there are two ways. Shorter, going on the bottom of
>a hill, but this is a twisty ride, or, easier, longer, on top of the
>hill. I took the bottom way and could pass everyone, lol!
>
>We arrived grass hill. Friends climbed it ok, I wheelied and stalled
>bike in the middle of the second section, Paulista crashed, Charles
>crashed... In the meantime, another group came. People riding all
>kinds of bikes, from a really young and arrogant XR200 rider to an old
>guy on a ratty XLX350R, and that guy with that really old Yamaha DT180
>entirely painted in yellow - including rims and spokes. He did ok on
>the first section, but had to push his bike - walking beside it - on
>the second section. These DT180s are screamy bikes with little torque
>down low and if the rider miss the momentum is wheelie-fest on hill
>climbs.
>
>whatshisnameagain was having trouble with his gearbox and got stuck.
>Some other guys helped him...
>
>Up there, we went straigth to the bar do doido, watch that ugly (face)
>but beautiful (from neck down) waitress... And of course, eat
>macaxeira, chicken, beans, clams and crabs. Lots of food.
>
>After that, we took a trail that used to be a race track, now it is
>covered with new plants and rather difficult to go through, but fun
>anyway. From there to the Paraiso beach trail, where I waited for ages
>for Gabriel and his bike that only starts when the bike wants, not the
>owner... There's a nice jump up there...
>
>And then, the mango woods trail. No mangoes anymore, the season ended,
>but it is nice to ride among so many mango trees.
>
>It was drizzling and we decided to ride down Gaibu beach rock.
>Everybody did nice, except well, Charles locked his brakes on a very
>steep hill, skidded and almost crashed. I and three more hit a
>submerged rock and hit the balls in the tank - it hurts! On the very
>bottom of the rock there is a very tiny creek, that was, as always,
>tiny and narrow, but was deep! After our little "problem", the others
>took a slightly variation of the way down path and avoided much
>pain... :-)
>
>riding, riding, riding, easy, large roads up the place we call "shit
>hill". Got down and had to cross a deep creek, when Robson's bike
>stalled again. Now I am starting to think that FI on dirt bikes aren't
>really a good idea... Deep, beach sand, because the hill leads right
>to the beach, I had to tie a rope on his bike and pull hard... It
>started.
>
>From there, we took some rock riding over Pedra Preta beach, easy, no
>problem, fun too...
>
>Then, Itapuama and again, the Jar Trail. We stopped in the beggining
>of the difficult muddy section and saw the group before mentioned and
>the strangest of all: two DT180s and a CG125 (this is a STREET BIKE!).
>One DT180 was being towed by the street bike... Oh well... More
>lunatics than I can handle.
>
>We passed these guys... Gabriel even advised them to go back... And we
>met the other group, the XLX350R rider could not start his bike and
>Gabriel did his best to push him, but the guy was not a rider, stupid,
>doesn't even know how to be towed and gets on the mud with a shitty
>bike. Amazing, really. Well, not our business, let his friends help
>him, his group was larger then ours.
>
>I got home by 6:30pm, tired... But it worth it. :-) I enjoy riding in
>winter, even though it is an expensive ride: Two bikes with rear disk
>brakes and new pads returned home with no rear pads anymore (I and
>Robson). My fronts are shot, so thin that I wonder if they would last
>a ride in dry trails. Eduardo hit a rock and it snapped his left
>footpeg and his gear lever. He stuck it on third and rode most of the
>way home stuck in third. Robson, on his crash, destroyed the
>headlight... Now, I have to buy a new set of pads and go riding again!
>
>-- Tiago
**************************************


Thanks for the ride report, Tiago.

I rode with MXPhlipper on Saturday, and Sunday; and two more joined us
for Sunday's ride. We mostly rode the mountain trails of
TrainRobbers, and worked a little bit on new sections for an older
loop. We were going to ride Bear Creek, but recent rains had the lake
level so high that we couldn't get over 1/2 mile from the parking
area. Even the paved road around the campground was 4' under water.

Phil is doing really well on that KLR450x. The other two bikes in the
group were both on CRF450x.

The Michelin Enduro Comp3 DOT legal tires I tried in the past were
pretty good offroad tires. I see what you mean by the Metzlers.


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF


Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 21:52
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report



Wudsracer wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the ride report, Tiago.

you're welcome

> I rode with MXPhlipper on Saturday, and Sunday; and two more joined us
> for Sunday's ride. We mostly rode the mountain trails of
> TrainRobbers, and worked a little bit on new sections for an older
> loop. We were going to ride Bear Creek, but recent rains had the lake
> level so high that we couldn't get over 1/2 mile from the parking
> area. Even the paved road around the campground was 4' under water.

sounds like a cool place :-)

I enjoy riding in wet terrain. Love when both wheels skids.

> The Michelin Enduro Comp3 DOT legal tires I tried in the past were
> pretty good offroad tires. I see what you mean by the Metzlers.

Problem is that guy doesn't *want* to put knobbies. There's no such
thing as DOT legal here and as long as the thread is still least 2mm
deep in the center of the tire, that's ok. He says he uses the bike to
commute and going knobby will increase tire wear... His tires are
still brand new. I hope he call me for a ride in two months <insert
crazy lunatic evil laughter>, he will buy the most expensive knobby
tire the day after, he can afford, he is rich. Why most of the rich
guys are so attached with their own money? Damn, that thing was made
to spend!!! I suspect I'll never be rich, but I will be happy with
lots of traction during winter.

-- Tiago

Reply from: HardWorkingDog
Date: 15 Apr 2008, 06:09
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

In article
<7239e2d5-eb37-4df1-870e-04891f5881b1@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups,com >,
Tiago Rocha <diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote:

> I suspect I'll never be rich, but I will be happy with
> lots of traction during winter.

That's my new slogan! You are an amazing character.

--
Charles
'99 YZ250

Reply from: Wudsracer
Date: 15 Apr 2008, 16:01
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

*********************************
>On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:09:27 -0700, HardWorkingDog <harvey@mush.man> wrote:

>In article
><7239e2d5-eb37-4df1-870e-04891f5881b1@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups,com >,
> Tiago Rocha <diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>> I suspect I'll never be rich, but I will be happy with
>> lots of traction during winter.
>
>That's my new slogan! You are an amazing character.
********************************

You know... There is "frugal", and there is "just too damn cheap".

If it helps keep my butt off the ground, and enhances my enjoyment of
the ride, I consider it a safety item.

If I am running a worn out tire, and am not doing some sort of test
to see how it acts as the tire wears out, you can bet that I'm just
being lazy about changing the tire for that ride.

If needed, I would scrimp on my lunches to save money for a good set
of tires.


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF


Reply from: john
Date: 15 Apr 2008, 16:12
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

tires are cheaper than a trip to the ER...



"Wudsracer"
> If it helps keep my butt off the ground, and enhances my enjoyment of
> the ride, I consider it a safety item.
>
> If I am running a worn out tire, and am not doing some sort of test
> to see how it acts as the tire wears out, you can bet that I'm just
> being lazy about changing the tire for that ride.
>
> If needed, I would scrimp on my lunches to save money for a good set
> of tires.
>
>
> Wudsracer/Jim Cook
> Smackover Racing
> '06 Gas Gas DE300
> '82 Husqvarna XC250
> Team LAGNAF
>



Reply from: Wudsracer
Date: 16 Apr 2008, 03:07
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report


***************************************
>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:12:01 -0400, "john" <not@this.add> wrote:

>tires are cheaper than a trip to the ER...
*************************************


Amen!



Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF


Reply from: sturd
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 22:33
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

Tiago reports:

[moist excellent ride report deleted]

Cool! Mud is fun if it's not too cold. I don't mind
being wet. I don't mind being cold. I don't like
cold and wet.

Too wet this past weekend to ride here. Griffin
and I spent an hour making trenches around the
mini bike track to drain the standing water. Maybe
we'll be able to ride tomorrow.


> This guy will start renting DR400 bikes if
> anyone is listening <g> -

Hmmmmmm.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.


Reply from: KW
Date: 14 Apr 2008, 22:35
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report


"Tiago Rocha" <diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:bafde83e-948a-4521-ad0a-a6afc031f029@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...

> Went riding yesterday. It was a great ride.

Excellent RR snipped, but the first statement sums it up nicely!

Thanks for sharing.

KW



Reply from: Tim H
Date: 15 Apr 2008, 22:19
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

On Apr 14, 8:00 am, Tiago Rocha <diariodastril...@gmail,com > wrote:
> Went riding yesterday. It was a great ride.
>
<snip a fine ride report>
Now, I have to buy a new set of pads and go riding again!
>
> -- Tiago

One of these days, Tiago, I've gotta get down there to ride those
trails with you. And check out those beaches.
You write great ride reports. They always make me want to go ride with
you; how much better can they get?

Tim H
Stuck in the Northern Hemisphere

Reply from: Wudsracer
Date: 16 Apr 2008, 03:08
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

***********************************
>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim H <tntharrell@msn,com > wrote:
>
>One of these days, Tiago, I've gotta get down there to ride those
>trails with you. And check out those beaches.
>You write great ride reports. They always make me want to go ride with
>you; how much better can they get?
>
>Tim H
>Stuck in the Northern Hemisphere
************************************

Tim,
Come down and ride with me in the summer. It will be easy to
pretend you are in Brazil.

jim


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF


Reply from: Tim H
Date: 16 Apr 2008, 16:26
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

On Apr 15, 6:08 pm, Wudsracer <babba...@Lucy,com > wrote:
> ***********************************>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim H <tntharr...@msn,com > wrote:
>
> >One of these days, Tiago, I've gotta get down there to ride those
> >trails with you. And check out those beaches.
> >You write great ride reports. They always make me want to go ride with
> >you; how much better can they get?
>
> >Tim H
> >Stuck in the Northern Hemisphere
>
> ************************************
>
> Tim,
>   Come down and ride with me in the summer.  It will be easy to
> pretend you are in Brazil.
>
> jim
>
>          Wudsracer/Jim Cook
>           Smackover Racing
>          '06 Gas Gas DE300
>         '82 Husqvarna XC250
>            Team LAGNAF

To be honest, Jim, your ride reports ususally have the same effect on
me. Thanks for the invite. One of these days.
I just need some sort of flimsy excuse...almost anything will do.
I've found that I really, really like going to completely new places
to ride, especially with friendly, knowledgable local guides.

Tim H

Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 16 Apr 2008, 16:59
Re: The lunatics are on the wild. Ride Report

On Apr 15, 5:19 pm, Tim H <tntharr...@msn,com > wrote:

> One of these days, Tiago, I've gotta get down there to ride those
> trails with you. And check out those beaches.

The #1 negative factor about coming is the air travel. Very expensive,
takes a lot of time, makes the ratio of gray hair X black hair
increase *a lot*... Gasoline is kind of expensive here, but you can
eat a hot dog on the streets for less than a dollar.

-- Tiago




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