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Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

Reply from: XR650L_Dave
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 19:10
Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.


http :// www .bloomberg,com /apps/news?pid 601086&sid«UoYKhu7PWk

Tiago, good luck as Brazil becomes the US's new best friend ;)


Dave

Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 20:13
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, XR650L Dave <spamTHIS...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> http :// www .bloomberg,com /apps/news?pid 601086&sid«UoYKhu7PWk
>
> Tiago, good luck as Brazil becomes the US's new best friend ;)
>
> Dave

Heads will roll due to that... uhh, nah, our government doesn't punish
who does dumb moves.

This is our situation on oil:

in 2006, Petrobras (state owned oil company) found a *huge* oil field
out in Santos bay (Tupi field). This is at Sao Paulo state, 3000 km
south from me. The company proceeded to spend 40 million on our
currency to make public that "brasil is self-sufficient in oil", but
they forgot to tell that this oil lies 5 thousand meters deep in the
ocean, not counting the distance from sea bed to the pre-salt layer
where the oil is and oil must be at over USD120 to worth extracting it
so we still have to import a large quantity of oil from Venezuela and
Middle East. Nonetheless, from my desk window I can see the
construction site to a new shipyard that already has the contract to
build a couple oil ships and the hull for one of the drilling stations
that floats out in the ocean. By the end of this year, the shipyard
will be ready and rolling brand new ships and the oil rig hull.

Then, last week, ANP (National Petroleum Agency, from the portuguese
acronym, a state regulatory agency) headmaster (the Harold dude the
article mention), who is NOT originally from the oil business and is
the headmaster because of politics (his party is "friend" of the
govnmt party and they "deserved" some high profile position),
publicized that Petrobras had just found strong *evidence* that they
found the third largest oil reserve... Well, this article does not
mention that this is under a layer 7 thousand meter of water, this is
more than the height of Aconcagua mountain (south america's tallest
mountain) and does not mention that with current technology and
current oil prices, it is not worth exploring it... 2020? Well, maybe,
oil might hit USD250 by then and we have time to develop the
technology to explore it, as nowadays this is impossible with current
tech.

Stock prices on Petrobras skyrocketed. The market wants that the
Harold dude to resign job, but, this is Brasil, won't happen I
guess... He said this gem: "This is a stock market issue, I don't even
know where stock market is". We're doomed... We've attracted attention
of the world for something we're not even certain of and assuming that
this is true, it is not feasible to explore in short period...
Anonymous technicians from Petrobras were quick to explain to
brazilian media about all that I said above...

Meanwhile, we're producing more ethanol than ever and the first flex
fuel bike (Chinese scooter type bike clone built here with Delphi fuel
injection system) will hit the stores within next weeks. You know,
flex fuel are vehicles that can run on gas, ethanol or any mix between
these two fuels.

I am waiting for the Yamaha XTZ250X to turn flex fuel to buy one, run
on ethanol and forget about oil except when I have to change it... If
only Rimula T was cheaper... (Rimula=Rotella) :-)

-- Tiago

Reply from: XR650L_Dave
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 20:32
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Apr 24, 2:13 pm, Tiago Rocha <diariodastril...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, XR650L Dave <spamTHIS...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > http :// www .bloomberg,com /apps/news?pid 601086&sid«UoYKhu7PWk
>
> > Tiago, good luck as Brazil becomes the US's new best friend ;)
>
> > Dave
>
> Heads will roll due to that... uhh, nah, our government doesn't punish
> who does dumb moves.
>
> This is our situation on oil:
>
> in 2006, Petrobras (state owned oil company) found a *huge* oil field
> out in Santos bay (Tupi field). This is at Sao Paulo state, 3000 km
> south from me. The company proceeded to spend 40 million on our
> currency to make public that "brasil is self-sufficient in oil", but
> they forgot to tell that this oil lies 5 thousand meters deep in the
> ocean, not counting the distance from sea bed to the pre-salt layer
> where the oil is and oil must be at over USD120 to worth extracting it
> so we still have to import a large quantity of oil from Venezuela and
> Middle East. Nonetheless, from my desk window I can see the
> construction site to a new shipyard that already has the contract to
> build a couple oil ships and the hull for one of the drilling stations
> that floats out in the ocean. By the end of this year, the shipyard
> will be ready and rolling brand new ships and the oil rig hull.
>
> Then, last week, ANP (National Petroleum Agency, from the portuguese
> acronym, a state regulatory agency) headmaster (the Harold dude the
> article mention), who is NOT originally from the oil business and is
> the headmaster because of politics (his party is "friend" of the
> govnmt party and they "deserved" some high profile position),
> publicized that Petrobras had just found strong *evidence* that they
> found the third largest oil reserve... Well, this article does not
> mention that this is under a layer 7 thousand meter of water, this is
> more than the height of Aconcagua mountain (south america's tallest
> mountain) and does not mention that with current technology and
> current oil prices, it is not worth exploring it... 2020? Well, maybe,
> oil might hit USD250 by then and we have time to develop the
> technology to explore it, as nowadays this is impossible with current
> tech.
>
> Stock prices on Petrobras skyrocketed. The market wants that the
> Harold dude to resign job, but, this is Brasil, won't happen I
> guess... He said this gem: "This is a stock market issue, I don't even
> know where stock market is". We're doomed... We've attracted attention
> of the world for something we're not even certain of and assuming that
> this is true, it is not feasible to explore in short period...
> Anonymous technicians from Petrobras were quick to explain to
> brazilian media about all that I said above...
>
> Meanwhile, we're producing more ethanol than ever and the first flex
> fuel bike (Chinese scooter type bike clone built here with Delphi fuel
> injection system) will hit the stores within next weeks. You know,
> flex fuel are vehicles that can run on gas, ethanol or any mix between
> these two fuels.
>
> I am waiting for the Yamaha XTZ250X to turn flex fuel to buy one, run
> on ethanol and forget about oil except when I have to change it... If
> only Rimula T was cheaper... (Rimula=Rotella) :-)
>
> -- Tiago


I guess the US will have to keep its attention on the US, er, Canadian
oil shale.

Now if they can make a bike that'll tun on ethanol, gasoline, a mix,
or Diesel, there's the post-apocalyptic vehicle right there.


Dave

Reply from: neil
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 21:35
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:13:34 -0700 (PDT), Tiago Rocha
<diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote:

>I am waiting for the Yamaha XTZ250X to turn flex fuel to buy one, run
>on ethanol and forget about oil except when I have to change it... If
>only Rimula T was cheaper... (Rimula=Rotella) :-)
>
>-- Tiago
Tiago
I wonder if you can help me? I have a Brazilian Yamaha XTZ 125E and
am unable to find any information about it anywhere.
Is there perhaps a Brazilian site that deals with this?
Thanks
Neil

Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 21:52
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Apr 24, 4:35 pm, neil <n...@gmail,com > wrote:

> Tiago
> I wonder if you can help me? I have a Brazilian Yamaha XTZ 125E and
> am unable to find any information about it anywhere.
> Is there perhaps a Brazilian site that deals with this?
> Thanks
> Neil

This is basically a TTR125 with electric start... The engine is the
same. There are brazilian sites, but they're all in portuguese. Try
www .motonline,com .br or www .terrasolta,com .br and look for the forums
on those sites... Is that any help?

There are overbore kits for this bike. Bumps it up to 170cc iirc.

This is a very neat bike. I rode one once on the trails and enjoyed it
very much. They make the motard version, the XTZ125X.

-- Tiago

Reply from: neil
Date: 25 Apr 2008, 20:38
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:52:36 -0700 (PDT), Tiago Rocha
<diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote:

>On Apr 24, 4:35 pm, neil <n...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>> Tiago
>> I wonder if you can help me? I have a Brazilian Yamaha XTZ 125E and
>> am unable to find any information about it anywhere.
>> Is there perhaps a Brazilian site that deals with this?
>> Thanks
>> Neil
>
>This is basically a TTR125 with electric start... The engine is the
>same. There are brazilian sites, but they're all in portuguese. Try
>www .motonline,com .br or www .terrasolta,com .br and look for the forums
>on those sites... Is that any help?
>
>There are overbore kits for this bike. Bumps it up to 170cc iirc.
>
>This is a very neat bike. I rode one once on the trails and enjoyed it
>very much. They make the motard version, the XTZ125X.
>
>-- Tiago
thanks for your help! the manual i got with the bike is in portuguese,
so it's taking me a long time to learn the basics.
The local Yamaha agents won't sell manuals because it takes away their
business (their explanation).
neil

Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 25 Apr 2008, 22:46
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, neil <n...@gmail,com > wrote:

> thanks for your help! the manual i got with the bike is in portuguese,
> so it's taking me a long time to learn the basics.
> The local Yamaha agents won't sell manuals because it takes away their
> business (their explanation).
> neil

yes, bike dealers tend to do that here too. Too bad.

if you need to know anything regarding that bike, ask... If I know,
I'll answer... :-) I have a few friends that owns them...

go to my webpage, click on english version and check the pictures from
september 16 ride... http :// www .diariodastrilhas,com /

-- Tiago

Reply from: HardWorkingDog
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 06:37
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

In article <e364149kt0ogpu2psnhm4coj744dget1uv@4ax,com >,
neil <neil@gmail,com > wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:52:36 -0700 (PDT), Tiago Rocha
> <diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote:
>
> >On Apr 24, 4:35 pm, neil <n...@gmail,com > wrote:
> >
> >> Tiago
> >> I wonder if you can help me? I have a Brazilian Yamaha XTZ 125E and
> >> am unable to find any information about it anywhere.
> >> Is there perhaps a Brazilian site that deals with this?
> >> Thanks
> >> Neil
> >
> >This is basically a TTR125 with electric start... The engine is the
> >same. There are brazilian sites, but they're all in portuguese. Try
> >www .motonline,com .br or www .terrasolta,com .br and look for the forums
> >on those sites... Is that any help?
> >
> >There are overbore kits for this bike. Bumps it up to 170cc iirc.
> >
> >This is a very neat bike. I rode one once on the trails and enjoyed it
> >very much. They make the motard version, the XTZ125X.
> >
> >-- Tiago
> thanks for your help! the manual i got with the bike is in portuguese,
> so it's taking me a long time to learn the basics.
> The local Yamaha agents won't sell manuals because it takes away their
> business (their explanation).
> neil

Those agents are cutting off their nose...

Here's a link to Yamaha US, where you can order a manual online--just
the manuals for US models. If the TTR125E is close enough, you could
order one that way. Don't know what year, but here's for the 2005:

< http :// www .yamahapubs,com /html/itemsearch.jsp?type=MC&Year=2005&Brand=
&model=TTR125ET>

--
Charles
'99 YZ250

Reply from: HellSickle
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 21:43
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.


"Tiago Rocha" <diariodastrilhas@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:03c8a91c-a3a0-40eb-bd09-b07bea2900cb@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...

> Heads will roll due to that... uhh, nah, our government doesn't punish
> who does dumb moves.
>
> This is our situation on oil:

Aren't there recently discovered reserves in the Amazon as well?

-Jeff-



Reply from: Tiago Rocha
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 21:53
Re: Brazilian dirt-bike go-go juice.

On Apr 24, 4:43 pm, "HellSickle" <jldnospamee...@comcast.spammer,net >
wrote:
> "Tiago Rocha" <diariodastril...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:03c8a91c-a3a0-40eb-bd09-b07bea2900cb@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > Heads will roll due to that... uhh, nah, our government doesn't punish
> > who does dumb moves.
>
> > This is our situation on oil:
>
> Aren't there recently discovered reserves in the Amazon as well?
>
> -Jeff-

Not sure on those. Anything in Amazon is complicated, most of that is
indian reserve... Military people hate it. What I know is that natural
gas is plenty there.

-- Tiago




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