more lazy-er

more lazy-er

than scrape, I had some one else change the oil in the car...
when do i start wearing black sock & shorts, opps crap...
how about a white helmet, ARRGHhn noooo
what's next i'll have someone else change a tire, crap guilty as charged...
john
i thing i need to sit in a rocking chair and predict weather.

Re: more lazy-er

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:32:41 -0400, "john" <not@this.add> wrote:

>than scrape, I had some one else change the oil in the car...
>when do i start wearing black sock & shorts, opps crap...
>how about a white helmet, ARRGHhn noooo
>what's next i'll have someone else change a tire, crap guilty as charged...

After my latest experience trying to troubleshoot the electrical
system on my Silverado, I can essentially say that about the only
thing I can do on it any more is oil/filter changes, brakes and
tune up shit.

I'm not going to buy a $5000 Tech2 analyzer.


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Re: more lazy-er

On Apr 30, 4:32 pm, "john" <n...@this.add> wrote:
> than scrape, I had some one else change the oil in the car...
> when do i start wearing black sock & shorts, opps crap...
> how about a white helmet, ARRGHhn noooo
> what's next i'll have someone else change a tire, crap guilty as charged..=
.
> john
>     i thing i need to sit in a rocking chair and predict weather.

Why you raggn' on white helmets (they are cooler on warm days you
know)? :) Makes it easy to pick my pictures out of the crowd @
organized events. :) I did change a front tire this week and think
I'll be changing another one tonight (if my buddy brings it over)...

I don't change my vehicle oil mostly because I'd still have to haul
the oil to the station anyway. Might as well let them change it and
keep the waste.

I will probably never get old enough to wear socks with shorts
again... especially dark socks. I mean we did the tall tube socks with
pretty stripes at the top back in the 70's... don't need to go there
again.

I'm selectively lazy... :)

Re: more lazy-er

> I don't change my vehicle oil mostly because I'd still have to haul
> the oil to the station anyway. Might as well let them change it and
> keep the waste.

That's always been my theory - worth the extra $15 not to have to deal
with the mess. I proclaimed 20 years ago that I would never change my
own oil. After dealing with the shop snafu with my daughter's car,
however, has me changing my tune. I don't know that I'll ever have my
oil changed again - there's no way of telling what they actually do
and/or don't do.

I think I can dump waste oil right into my furnace tank, provided I
run it through a coffee filter first. I might just start doing that.

JayC

Re: more lazy-er

On May 2, 10:11 am, JayC <j...@sysmatrix . net > wrote:
> > I don't change my vehicle oil mostly because I'd still have to haul
> > the oil to the station anyway. Might as well let them change it and
> > keep the waste.
>
> That's always been my theory - worth the extra $15 not to have to deal
> with the mess. I proclaimed 20 years ago that I would never change my
> own oil. After dealing with the shop snafu with my daughter's car,
> however, has me changing my tune. I don't know that I'll ever have my
> oil changed again - there's no way of telling what they actually do
> and/or don't do.
>
> I think I can dump waste oil right into my furnace tank, provided I
> run it through a coffee filter first. I might just start doing that.
>
> JayC


Some research on that will benefit you quite a bit.

I've seen some debate on it, some folks have done it, some swear it'll
kill your pump, the 'facts' about it that I trust the most are:

1) Frequent furnace cleaning- anyone that's used a waste oil burner
can attest to the crud hiding in oil

2) Just putting motor oil in your tank will get you a big glob of
cruddy goop on the bottom of the tank. A more sophisticated approach
is required involving a mixing unit, or a way to feed oil into the
line is required.

3) You may have to 'start' the burner on pure fuel oil, then add in
motor oil

4) The oil needs to be filtered quite well if you're going to avoid a
short-lived pump.

Dave

Re: more lazy-er

I don't trust the oil-pit monkeys with my vehicles. I have spoke with
too many people that have had problems with simple oil changes. It's
a 20-30 minute job. I just put my old oil in a 1 gallon milk
container and they pick it up with my recyclables every Tuesday. If I
want to get rid of it quicker, I head to the auto parts store and dump
it there. Plus, I want to see the oil coming out. I run synthetic
oil and replace it every 7.5K or twice a year. It comes out of the
Titan looking nearly as good as when I put it in. My Acura RSX-s
looks almost as good coming out. I spend alot of time near the 8K
redline. I'm OK with it based on results of Blackstone Laboratories
analysis of others oil using the same vehicles and oil, but with 15K
between oil changes. The oil was still doing it's job. Oh yeah, OEM
filters.

Between the bikes and vehicles, I have oil sitting on the curb most
every week.

Mike Baxter

On Fri, 2 May 2008 07:59:36 -0700 (PDT), XR650L_Dave
<spamTHISbrp@yahoo . com > wrote:

>On May 2, 10:11 am, JayC <j...@sysmatrix . net > wrote:
>> > I don't change my vehicle oil mostly because I'd still have to haul
>> > the oil to the station anyway. Might as well let them change it and
>> > keep the waste.
>>
>> That's always been my theory - worth the extra $15 not to have to deal
>> with the mess. I proclaimed 20 years ago that I would never change my
>> own oil. After dealing with the shop snafu with my daughter's car,
>> however, has me changing my tune. I don't know that I'll ever have my
>> oil changed again - there's no way of telling what they actually do
>> and/or don't do.
>>
>> I think I can dump waste oil right into my furnace tank, provided I
>> run it through a coffee filter first. I might just start doing that.
>>
>> JayC
>
>
>Some research on that will benefit you quite a bit.
>
>I've seen some debate on it, some folks have done it, some swear it'll
>kill your pump, the 'facts' about it that I trust the most are:
>
>1) Frequent furnace cleaning- anyone that's used a waste oil burner
>can attest to the crud hiding in oil
>
>2) Just putting motor oil in your tank will get you a big glob of
>cruddy goop on the bottom of the tank. A more sophisticated approach
>is required involving a mixing unit, or a way to feed oil into the
>line is required.
>
>3) You may have to 'start' the burner on pure fuel oil, then add in
>motor oil
>
>4) The oil needs to be filtered quite well if you're going to avoid a
>short-lived pump.
>
>Dave

Re: more lazy-er

> I just put my old oil in a 1 gallon milk
> container and they pick it up with my recyclables every Tuesday.

Wow - that's what I call service. We have to haul it somewhere
ourselves, which makes it a PITA. Who has the guts to put a gallon of
waste oil into the back of a $45,000 SUV. Not me, I'll tell you
that. Most of my old oil comes out of bikes anyway, at least until
now. That and the couple of gallons I dump out of my tractor every
once in a while. I'm overdue changing the hydraulic fluid in that
thing - a big reason for the delay is the thought of having to dispose
of 10 gallons of the stuff (not to mention how does one even drain 10
gallons - what do you use for a drain pan??). I do use old engine oil
as bar oil in my chainsaws, which uses a fair amount. I end up using
the stuff to kick-start my scrap wood and brush fires in my backyard
pit too.

JayC

Re: more lazy-er

On May 2, 12:52 pm, JayC <j...@sysmatrix . net > wrote:
> not to mention how does one even drain 10 gallons - what do you use for a =
drain pan

I use a plastic tub from the big box hardware store. I think it's sold
for mixing redi-mix type concrete.

Craig

Re: more lazy-er

On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:52:40 -0700 (PDT), JayC <jwc@sysmatrix . net >
wrote:

>> I just put my old oil in a 1 gallon milk
>> container and they pick it up with my recyclables every Tuesday.
>
>Wow - that's what I call service. We have to haul it somewhere
>ourselves, which makes it a PITA. Who has the guts to put a gallon of
>waste oil into the back of a $45,000 SUV. Not me, I'll tell you
>that. Most of my old oil comes out of bikes anyway, at least until
>now. That and the couple of gallons I dump out of my tractor every
>once in a while. I'm overdue changing the hydraulic fluid in that
>thing - a big reason for the delay is the thought of having to dispose
>of 10 gallons of the stuff (not to mention how does one even drain 10
>gallons - what do you use for a drain pan??). I do use old engine oil
>as bar oil in my chainsaws, which uses a fair amount. I end up using
>the stuff to kick-start my scrap wood and brush fires in my backyard
>pit too.

Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
them all at once.


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Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
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Re: more lazy-er

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>On Fri, 02 May 2008 20:49:38 -0400, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS@nc.rr . com > wrote:

>
>Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
>or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
>take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
>but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
>them all at once.
>
>
>----
>Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
>----
********************************************************

I take the bucket of used engine oil and pour it into a crude oil
stock tank, and sell it to the refinery. Now, that's recycling.


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF

Re: more lazy-er

On Sat, 03 May 2008 04:36:10 GMT, Wudsracer <babbaloo@Lucy . com >
wrote:

>********************************************************
>>On Fri, 02 May 2008 20:49:38 -0400, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS@nc.rr . com > wrote:
>
>>
>>Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
>>or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
>>take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
>>but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
>>them all at once.
>>
>********************************************************
>
>I take the bucket of used engine oil and pour it into a crude oil
>stock tank, and sell it to the refinery. Now, that's recycling.

If you reckon the refinery might want to come and get mine, I'll
hang on to it...


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Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
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Re: more lazy-er

On Sat, 03 May 2008 04:36:10 GMT, Wudsracer <babbaloo@Lucy . com > wrote:

>********************************************************
>>On Fri, 02 May 2008 20:49:38 -0400, scrape <scrapeNOTHANKS@nc.rr . com > wrote:
>
>>
>>Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
>>or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
>>take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
>>but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
>>them all at once.
>>
>>
>>----
>>Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
>>----
>********************************************************
>
>I take the bucket of used engine oil and pour it into a crude oil
>stock tank, and sell it to the refinery. Now, that's recycling.
>
>
> Wudsracer/Jim Cook
> Smackover Racing
> '06 Gas Gas DE300
> '82 Husqvarna XC250
> Team LAGNAF
>

Good on you! Having been on top of that huge tank, you need to
collect all the used oil in Smackover if you want to make a visible
difference.

Mike Baxter

Re: more lazy-er

scrape wrote:

> Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
> or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
> take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
> but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
> them all at once.

They probably get paid by some governmental agency to take it off your
hands. Around here the Goodwill stores accept electronic waste (if it's
not too big, unless you threaten to just push that monster tube-TV off
the back of your truck into their parking lot because NOTHING on their
webpage indicates size limitations), and I can't imagine them doing that
unless it's to their advantage.

We have to put the used oil in jugs clearly labelled OIL and call the
City for a special pickup. That doesn't seem efficient, but what do I know?

--
Cheers, Bev
=====================================
"Incontinence hotline, can you hold?"

Re: more lazy-er

On Sat, 03 May 2008 20:02:51 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+usenet@gmail . com > wrote:

>scrape wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
>> or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
>> take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
>> but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
>> them all at once.
>
>They probably get paid by some governmental agency to take it off your
>hands.

The dump *IS* a government agency... The Division Of Solid Waste.

> Around here the Goodwill stores accept electronic waste (if it's
>not too big, unless you threaten to just push that monster tube-TV off
>the back of your truck into their parking lot because NOTHING on their
>webpage indicates size limitations), and I can't imagine them doing that
>unless it's to their advantage.

The Goodwill Store up the street does not take electronic stuff.
However, I've found it fits neatly in the bottom of my city
mandated 64 gallon trash can.

>We have to put the used oil in jugs clearly labelled OIL and call the
>City for a special pickup. That doesn't seem efficient, but what do I know?

It's not. The City of Raleigh published numbers not too long ago
showing how much the recycling operation was losing.


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Go fast and aim for where the trees aren't.
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Re: more lazy-er

scrape wrote:

> <bashley101+usenet@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>>scrape wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I have to haul mine too, but I just dump it in 1 gallon jugs
>>> or two liter bottles until I've got a plastic tub filled and then
>>> take it to the dump. The auto parts stores around here take it,
>>> but I feel guilty taking the 10 gallons or so I usually have to
>>> them all at once.
>>
>>They probably get paid by some governmental agency to take it off your
>>hands.
>
> The dump *IS* a government agency... The Division Of Solid Waste.

I remember when you could choose to buy a can of used oil at gas
stations -- which I did back in the pre-smog-control days when I had a
car that used a lot of it. I wonder if that's still possible.

>> Around here the Goodwill stores accept electronic waste (if it's
>>not too big, unless you threaten to just push that monster tube-TV off
>>the back of your truck into their parking lot because NOTHING on their
>>webpage indicates size limitations), and I can't imagine them doing that
>>unless it's to their advantage.
>
> The Goodwill Store up the street does not take electronic stuff.
> However, I've found it fits neatly in the bottom of my city
> mandated 64 gallon trash can.

Must be a California-only thing, then.

>>We have to put the used oil in jugs clearly labelled OIL and call the
>>City for a special pickup. That doesn't seem efficient, but what do I know?
>
> It's not. The City of Raleigh published numbers not too long ago
> showing how much the recycling operation was losing.

We pay extra to have our trash recycled. Somehow that just seems WRONG.
I know some who live back east who have to pay an arm and a leg for
water, so they don't wash their cans/bottles before putting them in the
recycle bin. Water's cheap here, but neither do I; I figure if I'm
paying extra for them to deal with the stuff they can damn well wash it too.

Some cities figure it's more cost effective to NOT separate the trash
and recyclables -- if they get sorted out at the garbage-processing
facility they don't have to send separate trucks around. I might guess
that the processors might have to pay more for people to separate the
recyclables from the ordinary garbage. I know I'd want more, but maybe
the homeless who take those jobs don't really have a choice.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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Will give investment advice for food.