Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?


<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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On 11 Apr, 21:06, Ace <see...@virgin,net > wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:56:50 GMT, "Tom" <tommy1...@ntlworld,com >
> wrote:
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> >"FiftyPlus" <alda...@mich,com > wrote in message
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> >> Tom
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> >> 'Best' for what ? New/Used ? Are you trail riding ? Training a
> >> new rider ? Racing? Decorating ? Trying to start an argument ? Ask
> >> a longer question and tap into the wealth of info that's here OR hang
> >> you ass out for us to take potshots at.
>
> >I would like to know which is the best for motocross? Which is the
> >strongest
> >bike? Which is the best overall?
>
> You've already had the answer - none of them. Why anyone would want
> such a tiny thing I can't imagine.

>Can you imagine being 11 years old?

I could 5 years ago

Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

In communiqué <IV0Mj.41809$Ff4.27974@newsfe5-win.ntli,net >, Tom
<tommy16uk@ntlworld,com > cast forth these pearls of wisdom
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><peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>On 11 Apr, 21:06, Ace <see...@virgin,net > wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:56:50 GMT, "Tom" <tommy1...@ntlworld,com >
>> wrote:
>>
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>> >"FiftyPlus" <alda...@mich,com > wrote in message
>> >news:687f6eb4-85f5-4fdc-b6db-4ed71ff696b4@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>> >> Tom
>>
>> >> 'Best' for what ? New/Used ? Are you trail riding ? Training a
>> >> new rider ? Racing? Decorating ? Trying to start an argument ? Ask
>> >> a longer question and tap into the wealth of info that's here OR hang
>> >> you ass out for us to take potshots at.
>>
>> >I would like to know which is the best for motocross? Which is the
>> >strongest
>> >bike? Which is the best overall?
>>
>> You've already had the answer - none of them. Why anyone would want
>> such a tiny thing I can't imagine.
>
>>Can you imagine being 11 years old?
>
>I could 5 years ago
>
>

So you are looking for a big wheel 85 rather than a 125 then? In the UK
the switch to a 125 in ACU youth MX is usually made at around 15.

When my 11 year old lad went to an indoor practice track last November
he really wanted to try a 150 four stroke, but it was just too high for
him. The owner's son was flying round on a really trick KTM 150 four
stroke. Sounded awesome.

Some of the 85s have a reputation for being really peaky and not easy to
ride for a novice. The 150 four strokes seem similar with the added
problem of starting the beast. Some junior MX clubs are considering
excluding them because the smaller riders just can't restart mid race.

I have no experience of MX 125s other than seeing how well they can go
in supermoto trim up the tight short speed hill climbs here in the UK.
Others may know if any of those are easier to ride than an 85.

As I said before, we went for a YZ85 because of experience with the
WR250 that I keep in France which is really just a YZ with lights (as
you can see from my sig I don't generally go for Japanese bikes). 12
years old and still going strong. Easy to work on the clutch when it
needed doing. The KX65 looks much trickier. Got to go back to getting
that ready to go on Ebay now.

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Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

On Apr 11, 12:56 pm, "Tom" <tommy1...@ntlworld,com > wrote:
> "FiftyPlus" <alda...@mich,com > wrote in message
>
> news:687f6eb4-85f5-4fdc-b6db-4ed71ff696b4@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...> Tom
>
> >   'Best' for what ?  New/Used ?  Are you trail riding ?  Training a
> > new rider ?  Racing? Decorating ?  Trying to start an argument ?  Ask
> > a longer question and tap into the wealth of info that's here OR hang
> > you ass out for us to take potshots at.
>
> I would like to know which is the best for motocross? Which is the strongest
> bike? Which is the best overall?

Basically, it's "Pick your favorite color." They're all good for MX
(if you only weigh around 100 lbs.). If you weigh more than that,
they're going to need new springs and a re-valve anyway.

You'll never get a straight answer by asking that question.

People who ride the red bikes think the red bikes are best.
People who ride the blue bikes think the blue bikes are best.
People who ride the green bikes think the green bikes are best.
People who ride the yellow bikes think the yellow bikes are best.

Tom, If you're (or your kid is) a beginner, any one of them are going
to be *far* above your (or his/her) current talent level and they may
even scare you (them) out of riding in the dirt all together. I've
seen it happen many times when a kid's big-ego dad turns his young
beginner loose on one of these rockets instead of letting the kid
learn on a mellow four-stroke air-cooled trailie like a CRF80/100.

For a beginner, all the small MX bikes are pretty hard to ride, as
there is no torque down low (where a newby kid will tend to ride at
first), then there's a huge burst of power if he/she gets up into the
power band a bit and gets the shit scared out of him/herself. The poor
kid then loses interest in riding because his/her confidence gets
destroyed. He/she then notices all the kids riding the slow four-
stroke air-cooled trailies are riding circles around them.

Perhaps you should start an a slow used trail bike like an CRF100
first. Get some experience, *then* buy one of the little rocket ships
after you learn something about traction (or lack thereof) braking and
turning etc in the dirt. CRF100s are cheap, and they hold their value.

Good luck!

Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:56:50 GMT, "Tom" <tommy16uk@ntlworld,com >
wrote:


>I would like to know which is the best for motocross? Which is the strongest
>bike? Which is the best overall?

As simplistic as it sounds, go with what fits best and what dealer
you like the most. They're all good to the point of being a toss
up.


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Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

> Which is the best out of;
>
> Yamaha YZ85
> Kawasaki KX85
> Honda CR85
> Suzuki RM85

That's easy - the CR85. Red is always best, everybody knows
that...sheesh. OTOH, I don't think any of them are made anymore.

I don't know about the lesser brands, but brand new '06 or '07 CR85
leftovers were recently being blown out for under $2000. Keep that in
mind if you are buying late-model used.

JayC

Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

Tom wrote:
> Which is the best out of;
>
> Yamaha YZ85
> Kawasaki KX85
> Honda CR85
> Suzuki RM85
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom

I hopped on my nephew's '03 Honda and was pretty impressed with it's ability
to cart my lardass around. It was the "Expert" model with the big wheels.

Never ridden the others.

Re: Which is the best 85cc motorcycle out of these choices?

Jeff Mayner wrote:

>I hopped on my nephew's '03 Honda and was pretty impressed with it's ability
>to cart my lardass around. It was the "Expert" model with the big wheels.

Thank goodness. The ones with the smaller wheels are deathtraps. I
damn near killed myself trying to ride one out a ravine, a few years
back, while taking my KDX200 up the same hill was a walk in the park.