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Interesting tidbit from MN
CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
Camp Ripley.
Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
museum.
He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
where the plumbers made their discovery.
Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
---- Dozens? -----
Get out the metal detectors!!
ASSHOLE#104 Len
CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
Camp Ripley.
Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
museum.
He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
where the plumbers made their discovery.
Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
---- Dozens? -----
Get out the metal detectors!!
ASSHOLE#104 Len
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
On Fri, 09 May 2008 21:03:19 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net >
wrote:
>CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
>Camp Ripley.
>
>Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
>they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
>
>David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
>is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
>
>Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
>museum.
>
>He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
>bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
>where the plumbers made their discovery.
>
>Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
>
>---- Dozens? -----
>Get out the metal detectors!!
>
>ASSHOLE#104 Len
I shudder to think what "restore" means on a rig that has been buried
in the ground for 80 or 90 years. Guess the army still has NOS parts?
conehead ah00010
On Fri, 09 May 2008 21:03:19 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net >
wrote:
>CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
>Camp Ripley.
>
>Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
>they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
>
>David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
>is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
>
>Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
>museum.
>
>He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
>bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
>where the plumbers made their discovery.
>
>Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
>
>---- Dozens? -----
>Get out the metal detectors!!
>
>ASSHOLE#104 Len
I shudder to think what "restore" means on a rig that has been buried
in the ground for 80 or 90 years. Guess the army still has NOS parts?
conehead ah00010
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
conehead wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 21:03:19 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net >
> wrote:
>
>> CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
>> Camp Ripley.
>>
>> Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
>> they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
>>
>> David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
>> is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
>>
>> Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
>> museum.
>>
>> He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
>> bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
>> where the plumbers made their discovery.
>>
>> Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
>>
>> ---- Dozens? -----
>> Get out the metal detectors!!
>>
>> ASSHOLE#104 Len
>
> I shudder to think what "restore" means on a rig that has been buried
> in the ground for 80 or 90 years. Guess the army still has NOS parts?
Either the army or Halliburton.
--
Spunky Hussein Tuna
radical ChristoIslamic fundamentalist Pescasupremacist...
but not at all bitter
conehead wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 21:03:19 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net >
> wrote:
>
>> CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
>> Camp Ripley.
>>
>> Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
>> they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
>>
>> David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
>> is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
>>
>> Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
>> museum.
>>
>> He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
>> bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
>> where the plumbers made their discovery.
>>
>> Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
>>
>> ---- Dozens? -----
>> Get out the metal detectors!!
>>
>> ASSHOLE#104 Len
>
> I shudder to think what "restore" means on a rig that has been buried
> in the ground for 80 or 90 years. Guess the army still has NOS parts?
Either the army or Halliburton.
--
Spunky Hussein Tuna
radical ChristoIslamic fundamentalist Pescasupremacist...
but not at all bitter
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
On May 9, 5:03 pm, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhat.att,net > wrote:
> CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
> Camp Ripley.
>
> Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
> they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
>
> David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
> is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
>
> Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
> museum.
>
> He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
> bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
> where the plumbers made their discovery.
>
> Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
>
> ---- Dozens? -----
> Get out the metal detectors!!
>
> ASSHOLE#104 Len
Betcha a new Twin Cam that it's an Indian.
Harley and Indian both made "militarized" sidecar bikes during WW1.
The Harleys were rugged and reliable. The Indians quickly gained
whatever the period-nicknme was for "POS." There were stories of
Indians still in crates being dumped into holes over in France to fill
road-craters while the war was still on, so well liked they were.
Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
sidevalves and all, about 1952, gotten from a military auction in
Philadelphia. Antique Motorcycle bigwig Ernie Biddle of NJ got it,
and promptly sold the sidecar off to a buddy, who painted it red and
put it on a civilian Chief he had. Ernie kept the O.D. solo bike until
the end of his life, a couple of years ago. I don't know what
happened to it after that. His widow, Betty, had it for sale right
after he died, but I don't know where it went.
There are parts to be had. What's not salvageable is available in
repop from small batch manufacturers all over. It's just a civilian
1917 Chief with flat, unskirted fenders, a 3-speed bang box
transmission and an acetylene headlight and taillight.
--Sarge, BS109, Fla.
On May 9, 5:03 pm, "AH#104" <ah...@yourhat.att,net > wrote:
> CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
> Camp Ripley.
>
> Plumbers were digging a 15-foot-deep trench to lay a new sewer line when
> they uncovered a World War I military motorcycle and sidecar.
>
> David Hanson, who directs Camp Ripley's Military Museum, says the cycle
> is at least early 1918, 1919 or maybe early '20s vintage.
>
> Hanson says the motorcycle was discovered only 200 yards away from the
> museum.
>
> He says there have been rumors that the Army dumped dozens of similar
> bikes in the old Camp Ripley landfill, which was located at the spot
> where the plumbers made their discovery.
>
> Hanson says the cycle will be restored and displayed at the museum.
>
> ---- Dozens? -----
> Get out the metal detectors!!
>
> ASSHOLE#104 Len
Betcha a new Twin Cam that it's an Indian.
Harley and Indian both made "militarized" sidecar bikes during WW1.
The Harleys were rugged and reliable. The Indians quickly gained
whatever the period-nicknme was for "POS." There were stories of
Indians still in crates being dumped into holes over in France to fill
road-craters while the war was still on, so well liked they were.
Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
sidevalves and all, about 1952, gotten from a military auction in
Philadelphia. Antique Motorcycle bigwig Ernie Biddle of NJ got it,
and promptly sold the sidecar off to a buddy, who painted it red and
put it on a civilian Chief he had. Ernie kept the O.D. solo bike until
the end of his life, a couple of years ago. I don't know what
happened to it after that. His widow, Betty, had it for sale right
after he died, but I don't know where it went.
There are parts to be had. What's not salvageable is available in
repop from small batch manufacturers all over. It's just a civilian
1917 Chief with flat, unskirted fenders, a 3-speed bang box
transmission and an acetylene headlight and taillight.
--Sarge, BS109, Fla.
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
Sarge wrote...
>Len wrote:
> > CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
<snip>
> Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
> reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
I love reading these stories. Has any published a book on old finds like
these?
--
Tud
SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT Vermort AH#115
http :// ah115,com
Sisyphus rides a Triumph
Sarge wrote...
>Len wrote:
> > CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
<snip>
> Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
> reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
I love reading these stories. Has any published a book on old finds like
these?
--
Tud
SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT Vermort AH#115
http :// ah115,com
Sisyphus rides a Triumph
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
"Tud" wrote
> Sarge wrote...
> >Len wrote:
> > > CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed
at
>
> <snip>
>
> > Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
> > reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
>
> I love reading these stories. Has any published a book on old finds like
> these?
>
There ya go Tud, an income opportunity. With all the free time you have, it
should take you no time to do the research, and write the book.<g> Why, I'll
bet ML would even encourage you to ride to the sites for further
investigation. I'll even go with to hold the camera <sfsf>
Would be an interesting read though.
Grizz
BS#273
> --
> Tud
> SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT Vermort AH#115
> http :// ah115,com
> Sisyphus rides a Triumph
>
>
"Tud" wrote
> Sarge wrote...
> >Len wrote:
> > > CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed
at
>
> <snip>
>
> > Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
> > reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
>
> I love reading these stories. Has any published a book on old finds like
> these?
>
There ya go Tud, an income opportunity. With all the free time you have, it
should take you no time to do the research, and write the book.<g> Why, I'll
bet ML would even encourage you to ride to the sites for further
investigation. I'll even go with to hold the camera <sfsf>
Would be an interesting read though.
Grizz
BS#273
> --
> Tud
> SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT Vermort AH#115
> http :// ah115,com
> Sisyphus rides a Triumph
>
>
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
Tud wrote:
> Sarge wrote...
>> Len wrote:
>>> CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
>
> <snip>
>
>> Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
>> reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
>
> I love reading these stories. Has any published a book on old finds like
> these?
>
Very cool:
When we were living in Columbia SC they found some B-25 Mitchells at the
bottom of lake Murry. Last I recall they pulled up at least one of them
and started restoring it. They were suppose to be in pretty good
condition due to the cold water.
These planes were ditch in the lake if they had engine trouble when
doing practice runs for the Doolittle raid on Japan.
Capt Jack..
Tud wrote:
> Sarge wrote...
>> Len wrote:
>>> CAMP RIPLEY, Minn. (AP) A bit of military history has been unearthed at
>
> <snip>
>
>> Last one in-the-crate (partially disassembled, with sidecar and a
>> reassembly manual) I heard of being found, was a 1917 Chief,
>
> I love reading these stories. Has any published a book on old finds like
> these?
>
Very cool:
When we were living in Columbia SC they found some B-25 Mitchells at the
bottom of lake Murry. Last I recall they pulled up at least one of them
and started restoring it. They were suppose to be in pretty good
condition due to the cold water.
These planes were ditch in the lake if they had engine trouble when
doing practice runs for the Doolittle raid on Japan.
Capt Jack..
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
"Jack Redington" <capt_jack@mindspring,com > wrote in message
news:OsCdnV8MfbjWz7rVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
> Very cool:
>
> When we were living in Columbia SC they found some B-25 Mitchells at the
> bottom of lake Murry. Last I recall they pulled up at least one of them
> and started restoring it. They were suppose to be in pretty good
> condition due to the cold water.
>
> These planes were ditch in the lake if they had engine trouble when
> doing practice runs for the Doolittle raid on Japan.
>
> Capt Jack..
Funny.
The practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
"Jack Redington" <capt_jack@mindspring,com > wrote in message
news:OsCdnV8MfbjWz7rVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
> Very cool:
>
> When we were living in Columbia SC they found some B-25 Mitchells at the
> bottom of lake Murry. Last I recall they pulled up at least one of them
> and started restoring it. They were suppose to be in pretty good
> condition due to the cold water.
>
> These planes were ditch in the lake if they had engine trouble when
> doing practice runs for the Doolittle raid on Japan.
>
> Capt Jack..
Funny.
The practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
Topp sed:
> Funny.
> They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
Hey... Topp!
Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
Topp sed:
> Funny.
> They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
Hey... Topp!
Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
"AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net > wrote in message
news:4TCWj.334506$cQ1.39214@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att,net ...
> Topp sed:
> > Funny.
> > They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
>
> Hey... Topp!
> Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
Doubtful...I have been off all the lists.....
"AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net > wrote in message
news:4TCWj.334506$cQ1.39214@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att,net ...
> Topp sed:
> > Funny.
> > They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
>
> Hey... Topp!
> Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
Doubtful...I have been off all the lists.....
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
Topp@Work wrote:
> "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net > wrote in message
> news:4TCWj.334506$cQ1.39214@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att,net ...
>> Topp sed:
>>> Funny.
>>> They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
>>
>> Hey... Topp!
>> Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
>
> Doubtful...I have been off all the lists.....
About time to come back, isn't it?
Topp@Work wrote:
> "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net > wrote in message
> news:4TCWj.334506$cQ1.39214@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att,net ...
>> Topp sed:
>>> Funny.
>>> They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
>>
>> Hey... Topp!
>> Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
>
> Doubtful...I have been off all the lists.....
About time to come back, isn't it?
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
"roach AH#123" <123@nowhere,com > wrote in message
news:482bb470$1@127.0.0.1...
>
>
> Topp@Work wrote:
> > "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net > wrote in message
> > news:4TCWj.334506$cQ1.39214@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att,net ...
> >> Topp sed:
> >>> Funny.
> >>> They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
> >>
> >> Hey... Topp!
> >> Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
> >
> > Doubtful...I have been off all the lists.....
>
> About time to come back, isn't it?
not really....just passing thru.
"roach AH#123" <123@nowhere,com > wrote in message
news:482bb470$1@127.0.0.1...
>
>
> Topp@Work wrote:
> > "AH#104" <ah104@yourhat.att,net > wrote in message
> > news:4TCWj.334506$cQ1.39214@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att,net ...
> >> Topp sed:
> >>> Funny.
> >>> They practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
> >>
> >> Hey... Topp!
> >> Gonna see you at MAMMARY?
> >
> > Doubtful...I have been off all the lists.....
>
> About time to come back, isn't it?
not really....just passing thru.
Re: Interesting tidbit from MN
Topp@Work wrote:
> "Jack Redington" <capt jack@mindspring,com > wrote in message
> news:OsCdnV8MfbjWz7rVnZ2dnUVZ t3inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>
>> Very cool:
>>
>> When we were living in Columbia SC they found some B-25 Mitchells at the
>> bottom of lake Murry. Last I recall they pulled up at least one of them
>> and started restoring it. They were suppose to be in pretty good
>> condition due to the cold water.
>>
>> These planes were ditch in the lake if they had engine trouble when
>> doing practice runs for the Doolittle raid on Japan.
>>
>> Capt Jack..
>
> Funny.
>
> The practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
>
>
>
Well I guess you are right, this web site agrees with you:
http :// uwex.us/lakemurrayb25.html
It contains this quote
""There are misconceptions to the involvement of the Doolittle B-25s
at Columbia, South Carolina. While training missions simulating
low-level bombing runs were conducted over Lake Murray in Lexington
County, these occurred after Doolittle's mission.""
So I stand corrected..
On lake Murry there is a island visable from the dam called Doolittle
Island or Bomb. I lived there for 4 years and boated on it for two. Some
of the natives said it was named that because of the training for the raid.
That web site has some pics of the planes in lake Murry..
Cheers
Capt Jack..
Topp@Work wrote:
> "Jack Redington" <capt jack@mindspring,com > wrote in message
> news:OsCdnV8MfbjWz7rVnZ2dnUVZ t3inZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>
>> Very cool:
>>
>> When we were living in Columbia SC they found some B-25 Mitchells at the
>> bottom of lake Murry. Last I recall they pulled up at least one of them
>> and started restoring it. They were suppose to be in pretty good
>> condition due to the cold water.
>>
>> These planes were ditch in the lake if they had engine trouble when
>> doing practice runs for the Doolittle raid on Japan.
>>
>> Capt Jack..
>
> Funny.
>
> The practiced in Eglin Field, Florida...Not SC
>
>
>
Well I guess you are right, this web site agrees with you:
http :// uwex.us/lakemurrayb25.html
It contains this quote
""There are misconceptions to the involvement of the Doolittle B-25s
at Columbia, South Carolina. While training missions simulating
low-level bombing runs were conducted over Lake Murray in Lexington
County, these occurred after Doolittle's mission.""
So I stand corrected..
On lake Murry there is a island visable from the dam called Doolittle
Island or Bomb. I lived there for 4 years and boated on it for two. Some
of the natives said it was named that because of the training for the raid.
That web site has some pics of the planes in lake Murry..
Cheers
Capt Jack..
