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Domain names and hosting ... *OT*

Reply from: Terry Coombs
Date: 15 May, 03:36
Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking orders ...

I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how to go
about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I started to
register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I host my own on a
DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do you need another drink ?
Should I RAID my hard drives ?
I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm about to
jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be appreciated !
--
Snag
'90 Ultra "Strider"
'39 WLDD "Popcycle"
Buncha cars and a truck



Reply from: AH#104
Date: 15 May, 04:07
Terry Coombs axed:
> Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking orders
> ...
>
> I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how to
> go about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I
> started to register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I
> host my own on a DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do
> you need another drink ? Should I RAID my hard drives ?
> I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm
> about to jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be
> appreciated !

dp



Reply from: SteveT
Date: 15 May, 04:08
"Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote:

:Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking orders ...
:
: I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how to go
:about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I started to
:register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I host my own on a
:DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do you need another drink ?
:Should I RAID my hard drives ?
: I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm about to
:jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be appreciated !


Don't host your own. Go to http://www.1and1.com and register. It
will cost you about $6 for the name and $4 a month to host your site
and provide you with 600 email accounts (not kidding).


---
Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness

Reply from: Terry Coombs
Date: 15 May, 05:13
SteveT wrote:
> "Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking
>> orders ...
>>
>> I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how
>> to go about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I
>> started to register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I
>> host my own on a DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do
>> you need another drink ? Should I RAID my hard drives ?
>> I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm
>> about to jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be
>> appreciated !
>
>
> Don't host your own. Go to http://www.1and1.com and register. It
> will cost you about $6 for the name and $4 a month to host your site
> and provide you with 600 email accounts (not kidding).
>
>
> ---
> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness

Exactly what I was looking for , Steve . Thank you !
--
Snag
'90 Ultra "Strider"
'39 WLDD "Popcycle"
Buncha cars and a truck



Reply from: Timo Geusch
Date: 15 May, 08:07
SteveT wrote:

> "Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> :Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking
> orders ... :
> : I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how
> to go :about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I
> started to :register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I
> host my own on a :DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do
> you need another drink ? :Should I RAID my hard drives ?
> : I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm
> about to :jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be
> appreciated !
>
>
> Don't host your own. Go to http://www.1and1.com and register. It
> will cost you about $6 for the name and $4 a month to host your site
> and provide you with 600 email accounts (not kidding).

Actually I wouldn't register a domain and the hosting with the same
place - I know a few people who've had problems moving domains around
that were registered that way (disclaimer: I've got a very small
hosting operation as a side business together with a few friends).

Terry - hosting it on your DSL may be possible but it's not really the
way to go simply because it'll work the "wrong way round". (A)DSL - the
usual consumer stuff, not symetric DSL - has far higher download speed
than upload speed. In my case, I'm supposed to get up to 8Mb/s
downstream but only 400kb/s upstream. Unfortunately your web server
will try to squeeze it's data in the upstream direction so it wouldn't
be very responsive once you get a reasonable amount of traffic. But
yes, it's possible and works reasonably well as a backup plan, too.
I've done it, but it depends if your ISP does allow you to run your own
webserver. At least over here in the UK, quite a few don't.

Ideally you'd want a static IP address or two, but you can get away
with the server being on a dynamic address and use a service like the
one offered by dyndns.org.

That said, unless you're looking at dynamic content (server side
scripts and stuff like that), I'd check if your ISP offers you some
free webspace and if so, check if that's useable via something like
domain forwarding.

Oh, and thanks for the tea.




--
'96 FXD

Reply from: Terry Coombs
Date: 15 May, 12:05
Timo Geusch wrote:
> SteveT wrote:
>
>> "Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking
>>> orders ... : I have found a domain name that I like , and am not
>>> quite sure how
>> to go :about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I
>> started to :register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I
>> host my own on a :DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do
>> you need another drink ? :Should I RAID my hard drives ?
>>> I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm
>> about to :jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be
>> appreciated !
>>
>>
>> Don't host your own. Go to http://www.1and1.com and register. It
>> will cost you about $6 for the name and $4 a month to host your site
>> and provide you with 600 email accounts (not kidding).
>
> Actually I wouldn't register a domain and the hosting with the same
> place - I know a few people who've had problems moving domains around
> that were registered that way (disclaimer: I've got a very small
> hosting operation as a side business together with a few friends).
>
> Terry - hosting it on your DSL may be possible but it's not really the
> way to go simply because it'll work the "wrong way round". (A)DSL -
> the usual consumer stuff, not symetric DSL - has far higher download
> speed than upload speed. In my case, I'm supposed to get up to 8Mb/s
> downstream but only 400kb/s upstream. Unfortunately your web server
> will try to squeeze it's data in the upstream direction so it wouldn't
> be very responsive once you get a reasonable amount of traffic. But
> yes, it's possible and works reasonably well as a backup plan, too.
> I've done it, but it depends if your ISP does allow you to run your
> own webserver. At least over here in the UK, quite a few don't.
>
> Ideally you'd want a static IP address or two, but you can get away
> with the server being on a dynamic address and use a service like the
> one offered by dyndns.org.
>
> That said, unless you're looking at dynamic content (server side
> scripts and stuff like that), I'd check if your ISP offers you some
> free webspace and if so, check if that's useable via something like
> domain forwarding.
>
> Oh, and thanks for the tea.

I don't really know WHAT I want . I just got a wild hare last night to see
if some of the domain names I had considered were now open . One is for sale
, another is open right now . This may never happen , but ...
Part of what made me wonder about hosting it here is because my son uses
dyndns on our server for a voip program , Ventrilo , for his gaming buddies
. And it's been a while since I've kept a website up . As I recall , it's a
fair amount of work .
Shot of something to warm that tea up ? Gettin' kinda late in the aft over
there ...
--
Snag
'90 Ultra "Strider"
'39 WLDD "Popcycle"
Buncha cars and a truck



Reply from: Spunky Hussein Tuna
Date: 15 May, 16:11
SteveT wrote:

> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness

Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but when I read Steve's sig
line I just glanced at it and for some reason thought it read "Small
town person clinging to guns and out of batteries"

Struck me funny.
--

Spunky Hussein Tuna
radical ChristoIslamic fundamentalist Pescasupremacist...
but not at all bitter

Reply from: Al
Date: 15 May, 17:37
Spunky Hussein Tuna wrote:
> SteveT wrote:
>
>> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness
>
> Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but when I read Steve's sig
> line I just glanced at it and for some reason thought it read "Small
> town person clinging to guns and out of batteries"
>
> Struck me funny.

*That* might have been correct on Y2K at 12:01

--
BS205© DOF#FiftyTo G&W CVNS-FD#1-7®



Reply from: SteveT
Date: 15 May, 19:12
Spunky Hussein Tuna <spunkyhusseintuna@earthlink.net> wrote:

:SteveT wrote:
:
:> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness
:
:Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but when I read Steve's sig
:line I just glanced at it and for some reason thought it read "Small
:town person clinging to guns and out of batteries"
:
:Struck me funny.

That too. You can never have enough batteries.
--

Reply from: tater
Date: 15 May, 20:04

"SteveT" <rmh3@no48panspam.com> wrote in message
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>
> That too. You can never have enough batteries.
> --

That's what Wanda says.




Reply from: Spunky Hussein Tuna
Date: 15 May, 23:44
SteveT wrote:
> Spunky Hussein Tuna <spunkyhusseintuna@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> :SteveT wrote:
> :
> :> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness
> :
> :Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but when I read Steve's sig
> :line I just glanced at it and for some reason thought it read "Small
> :town person clinging to guns and out of batteries"
> :
> :Struck me funny.
>
> That too. You can never have enough batteries.
> --

Dunno about you, but it always seems that when I have enough batteries,
they're all the wrong damn size.

--

Spunky Hussein Tuna
radical ChristoIslamic fundamentalist Pescasupremacist...
but not at all bitter

Reply from: DVD
Date: 18 May, 20:12
SteveT wrote:

> "Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> :Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking orders ...
> :
> : I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how to go
> :about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I started to
> :register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I host my own on a
> :DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do you need another drink ?
> :Should I RAID my hard drives ?
> : I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm about to
> :jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be appreciated !
>
>
> Don't host your own. Go to http://www.1and1.com and register. It
> will cost you about $6 for the name and $4 a month to host your site
> and provide you with 600 email accounts (not kidding).
>
>
> ---
> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness

Excellent advice, for an example check my website @
DVDEnvironmental.com. If you need to check the e-mail interface (which
is kinda slow) let me know and I will give you a password so you can
check it out. It is cheap and it works, I slapped together a website in
under an hour and it uploaded with no problems.

Reply from: Terry Coombs
Date: 18 May, 21:26
DVD wrote:
> SteveT wrote:
>
>> "Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking
>>> orders ... I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite
>>> sure how
>>> to go about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it .
>>> I started to register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered .
>>> Can I host my own on a DSL connection , do I need a static IP
>>> address , do you need another drink ? Should I RAID my hard drives ?
>>> I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm
>>> about to jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be
>>> appreciated !
>>
>>
>> Don't host your own. Go to http://www.1and1.com and register. It
>> will cost you about $6 for the name and $4 a month to host your site
>> and provide you with 600 email accounts (not kidding).
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Small town person clinging to guns out of bitterness
>
> Excellent advice, for an example check my website @
> DVDEnvironmental.com. If you need to check the e-mail interface (which
> is kinda slow) let me know and I will give you a password so you can
> check it out. It is cheap and it works, I slapped together a website
> in under an hour and it uploaded with no problems.


Actually , The most likely scenario is that I will register with someone
and have it hosted by netscum . I might have to ping the netscum I have in
mind again , he hasn't responded . I do know he's been doing an excellent
job for some others that read this ng .
dp , ya listenin' ?
I've got the tools to build a killer website , just gotta learn which end
to hold and which end to whack with . First thing is to decide what I want ,
how to present what I want , flowcharts and link diagrams , ah shit , my
head is swimmin' now .
Shirley it must be time for another drink . Make mine cherry brandy , neat
.
--
Snag
'90 Ultra "Strider"
'39 WLDD "Popcycle"
Buncha cars and a truck



Reply from: tater
Date: 15 May, 14:54
"Terry Coombs" <snagone@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:VrMWj.6058$hv2.5758@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking orders ...
>
> I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how to go
> about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I started to
> register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I host my own on a
> DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do you need another drink
> ? Should I RAID my hard drives ?
> I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm about
> to jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be appreciated
> !
> --
> Snag
> '90 Ultra "Strider"
> '39 WLDD "Popcycle"
> Buncha cars and a truck
>

If you have a fast enough DSL connection and not a lot of traffic it might
work. You'll need a static IP. I wouldn't have it hosted by the same
place you register with. You can host it at home fairly cheaply.

I'm in the process of getting a web site going .. just haven't programmed
the site yet. Just have a test page on it. I used an old PC. Installed
Ubuntu
Linux server version on it. It comes with Apache web server. And it's
free.

I also run my own email server on an old Windows 98 PC using a mail
server called Argosoft. On that same pc I run an IRC chat server
running a server program called Bircd.

t






Reply from: JMark
Date: 15 May, 15:12
Terry Coombs wrote:
> Alright folks , get your fist fulla drinks , Shirley is taking orders ...
>
> I have found a domain name that I like , and am not quite sure how to go
> about registering it , how to set up a domain , all of it . I started to
> register it on godaddy , but got a bit bewildered . Can I host my own on a
> DSL connection , do I need a static IP address , do you need another drink ?
> Should I RAID my hard drives ?
> I have plenty of capacity here , computing and storage wise . I'm about to
> jump in over my head ... any help learning to swim will be appreciated !

Take note of how long your dynamic IP stays the same.

http://zoneedit.com/checkip.html


If it stays the same for long periods, just point the A Record for any
domain to that IP for a domain you want to serve at home. You would
have to configure your router to send the port 80 traffic to the server
sub-IP. Not difficult at all - especially with the free linux software
out there that will run well on any older machines you might want to use
as only a server. The guys above have a setup where your server can
ping them at chosen intervals to check your IP and if it changes, they
will change your A Record automatically. You would have to transfer
your domain to use their DNS servers (free) to do this.

Check some of these out just to get a feel for the market:

http://www.top-10-web-hosting.com/

Note that most of the above are effectively even cheaper if you register
more than one domain.

I use 1and1 to register domains for $6 per year as I can add domains
easily and the old plan I'm on is fairly malleable. I think you can get
.us or .biz domain names for cheaper. Their control panels you'll use to
set up your domains are pretty straight forward. With basic domain name
registration, you'll get one email account that you can forward anywhere
you want. You can even use a catch-all email address to collect all
email (*@domainname.com), but then you'll get a lot of crap. I have one
webmail type access account as well, but I don't recall what triggered
me getting that option. I do like to use their SMTP server. It is
convenient to use your regular email client software of choice and send
mail as if from your domain through their SMTP server.

1and1 hosting is probably not the best in customer support. Any hosting
plan on the cheap is said to be a lower priority (traffic/access) than
the higher priced plans. The other thing that 1and1 does different is
they bill you for domains after they were due - so if you ever want to
cancel a domain - you'll have to keep track of the anniversary date and
let them know in the advance time you will agree to. Canceling a domain
with them can be time consuming as they drop the ball on many of their
customer support functions and try not to own up to it. You will talk
to some nice folks in the Philippines most times. GoDaddy on the other
hand will notify you well in advance and when you don't renew - the
domain is gone - much easier, but a few bucks more per year. GoDaddy
has much better support - in my experience.

Hope this helps.


--
JMark


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