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Regular Gas in a TC96?
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
nobody #1 <rnddmauck@comcast,net > wrote in
news:481E4A5C.C01A47E1@comcast,net :
>
>
> Your name wrote:
>
>> Rick Begeman <despaminator@yahoo,com > wrote in news:despaminator-
>> 778D59.08184503052008@news.verizon,net :
>>
>> > In article <Xns9A9350E88591BYouremailemailnet@69.28.186.120>,
>> > Your name <Youremail@email,net > wrote:
>> >
>> > <whack>
>> >
>> >> Just ran a tank of regular in my 95" Ultra for comparison. My
>> >> lileage improved considerably.
>> >
>> >> I wionder if the Power Commander makes ongoing adjustments based
>> >> on temperature and ease of fuel burning?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Power Commander is not an active device and makes no changes other
>> > than what has been programmed by the last tech.
>
> You got better gas mileage riding one up? Gee whiz.
>
>
>
> nobody #1
>
>
The difference was significant and also compared to previous one up
riding this year.
Possible causes:
Winter Gas
Carbon on plugs from warming up at idle and running rich due to sub
freezing temps.
too much city riding.
I noticed it was way down from last year.
I am just wondering if the Power Commander has improved power at the
expense of economy when I was told it should do both due to having run
rich previously.
Bob Mann
nobody #1 <rnddmauck@comcast,net > wrote in
news:481E4A5C.C01A47E1@comcast,net :
>
>
> Your name wrote:
>
>> Rick Begeman <despaminator@yahoo,com > wrote in news:despaminator-
>> 778D59.08184503052008@news.verizon,net :
>>
>> > In article <Xns9A9350E88591BYouremailemailnet@69.28.186.120>,
>> > Your name <Youremail@email,net > wrote:
>> >
>> > <whack>
>> >
>> >> Just ran a tank of regular in my 95" Ultra for comparison. My
>> >> lileage improved considerably.
>> >
>> >> I wionder if the Power Commander makes ongoing adjustments based
>> >> on temperature and ease of fuel burning?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Power Commander is not an active device and makes no changes other
>> > than what has been programmed by the last tech.
>
> You got better gas mileage riding one up? Gee whiz.
>
>
>
> nobody #1
>
>
The difference was significant and also compared to previous one up
riding this year.
Possible causes:
Winter Gas
Carbon on plugs from warming up at idle and running rich due to sub
freezing temps.
too much city riding.
I noticed it was way down from last year.
I am just wondering if the Power Commander has improved power at the
expense of economy when I was told it should do both due to having run
rich previously.
Bob Mann
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
"Your name" <Youremail@email,net > wrote
> I'm objective ....
Maybe, but remember the MC rag that tested the propeller behind the carbs
scam and reported big mileage improvements only to find that the shop they'd
paid to install them had done nothing. Only a programmed dyno run is truly
objective.
"Your name" <Youremail@email,net > wrote
> I'm objective ....
Maybe, but remember the MC rag that tested the propeller behind the carbs
scam and reported big mileage improvements only to find that the shop they'd
paid to install them had done nothing. Only a programmed dyno run is truly
objective.
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
"another nogn" <tg2122460@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:fcqdnSFaRd3zRIrVnZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@sentex,net ...
>
> I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
>
> - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour period
> - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
> - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
> - started with 91 octane
> - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
> - third tank was 87
> The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down - enough so
> that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly higher price of the
> 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit different.
>
> Thanks for the java!
>
>
I've not tested running a lower octane in my EG ..but I know that in
my truck if I put in the ethanol blend instead of regular unleaded I
get about 10% lower gas mileage. So it's worth it to pay the extra
dime and uase regular.
What effect would ethanol have on the Harley?
t
"another nogn" <tg2122460@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:fcqdnSFaRd3zRIrVnZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@sentex,net ...
>
> I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
>
> - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour period
> - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
> - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
> - started with 91 octane
> - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
> - third tank was 87
> The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down - enough so
> that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly higher price of the
> 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit different.
>
> Thanks for the java!
>
>
I've not tested running a lower octane in my EG ..but I know that in
my truck if I put in the ethanol blend instead of regular unleaded I
get about 10% lower gas mileage. So it's worth it to pay the extra
dime and uase regular.
What effect would ethanol have on the Harley?
t
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
tater wrote:
> I've not tested running a lower octane in my EG ..but I know that in
> my truck if I put in the ethanol blend instead of regular unleaded I
> get about 10% lower gas mileage. So it's worth it to pay the extra
> dime and uase regular.
>
> What effect would ethanol have on the Harley?
E10 or E85? Don't try E85 in it but I've used E10 in mine for years and
years and it's been fine. It's pretty much all you can get around here.
--
Donna A.
Wench #17/Bitch #17/BS #26/AH#107/SLOB #9
'95 FLHTCUI Fuel Injected 30th Anniversary Electraglide "Fueley"
'66 H-D Bobcat "Baby Blue"--Harley Hummer Club Member #1066
http :// spoiled-brat,com
tater wrote:
> I've not tested running a lower octane in my EG ..but I know that in
> my truck if I put in the ethanol blend instead of regular unleaded I
> get about 10% lower gas mileage. So it's worth it to pay the extra
> dime and uase regular.
>
> What effect would ethanol have on the Harley?
E10 or E85? Don't try E85 in it but I've used E10 in mine for years and
years and it's been fine. It's pretty much all you can get around here.
--
Donna A.
Wench #17/Bitch #17/BS #26/AH#107/SLOB #9
'95 FLHTCUI Fuel Injected 30th Anniversary Electraglide "Fueley"
'66 H-D Bobcat "Baby Blue"--Harley Hummer Club Member #1066
http :// spoiled-brat,com
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
another nogn wrote:
> "EZ" <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> news:vkke14dh1lhfbbptr7lcb5f1savb0422ja@4ax,com ...
>> Have a round of your choice on me. I'd like to know if there are any
>> folks running regular (i.e., 87 octane) gasoline in their TC96
>> engine, and if it is causing any problems? I ran regular unleaded in
>> my '05 TC88 Low Rider with no problems at all.
>>
>> 91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>> regular.
>>
>> --
>> _____ _____
>>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
>>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
>>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
>>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
>
> I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
>
> - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour period
> - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
> - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
> - started with 91 octane
> - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
> - third tank was 87
> The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down -
> enough so that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly higher
> price of the 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit different.
>
> Thanks for the java!
I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas mileage
on the same highway several times. From my house to Des Moines kum & Go and
I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its always different. Wind has a lot
to play in it so I just can't see the sense in comparing octane, when it has
nothing to do with mileage in the first place.
Unless your computer can sense ping and it retards the timing to keep it
from pinging then octane plays a factor. That is why if a car manufacture
says to run 91 they mean it. If you run 87 the computer will know its
pinging, retard the timing and the mileage can suffer for it. The last I
knew Harley didn't make such a computer so from my end of it I can't see
comparing octane for mileage when I've ridden the same highway several times
and always see a difference in mileage with the same octane. And, I check my
mileage all the time, not kidding I check it at every stop at all the long
rides. Not that Des Moines is that far from me but I still check it.
http :// speedarticles,com /auto_racing_article-46.html
--
Carl
99 FLSTF
I started out with nothing and
I just about have that paid for
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another nogn wrote:
> "EZ" <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> news:vkke14dh1lhfbbptr7lcb5f1savb0422ja@4ax,com ...
>> Have a round of your choice on me. I'd like to know if there are any
>> folks running regular (i.e., 87 octane) gasoline in their TC96
>> engine, and if it is causing any problems? I ran regular unleaded in
>> my '05 TC88 Low Rider with no problems at all.
>>
>> 91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>> regular.
>>
>> --
>> _____ _____
>>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
>>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
>>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
>>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
>
> I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
>
> - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour period
> - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
> - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
> - started with 91 octane
> - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
> - third tank was 87
> The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down -
> enough so that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly higher
> price of the 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit different.
>
> Thanks for the java!
I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas mileage
on the same highway several times. From my house to Des Moines kum & Go and
I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its always different. Wind has a lot
to play in it so I just can't see the sense in comparing octane, when it has
nothing to do with mileage in the first place.
Unless your computer can sense ping and it retards the timing to keep it
from pinging then octane plays a factor. That is why if a car manufacture
says to run 91 they mean it. If you run 87 the computer will know its
pinging, retard the timing and the mileage can suffer for it. The last I
knew Harley didn't make such a computer so from my end of it I can't see
comparing octane for mileage when I've ridden the same highway several times
and always see a difference in mileage with the same octane. And, I check my
mileage all the time, not kidding I check it at every stop at all the long
rides. Not that Des Moines is that far from me but I still check it.
http :// speedarticles,com /auto_racing_article-46.html
--
Carl
99 FLSTF
I started out with nothing and
I just about have that paid for
Remove one 9 to reply
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
On Tue, 6 May 2008 17:44:28 -0500, "Carl" <softailfb999@yahoo,com >
wrote:
>I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas mileage
>on the same highway several times. From my house to Des Moines kum & Go and
>I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its always different. Wind has a lot
>to play in it so I just can't see the sense in comparing octane, when it has
>nothing to do with mileage in the first place.
Geez, I'd be ecstatic to get that good. Best I got so far is 39 on a
long H.O.G. ride. Around town I'm only getting 36 on a brand-new
Ultra.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
On Tue, 6 May 2008 17:44:28 -0500, "Carl" <softailfb999@yahoo,com >
wrote:
>I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas mileage
>on the same highway several times. From my house to Des Moines kum & Go and
>I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its always different. Wind has a lot
>to play in it so I just can't see the sense in comparing octane, when it has
>nothing to do with mileage in the first place.
Geez, I'd be ecstatic to get that good. Best I got so far is 39 on a
long H.O.G. ride. Around town I'm only getting 36 on a brand-new
Ultra.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
EZ wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 17:44:28 -0500, "Carl" <softailfb999@yahoo,com >
> wrote:
>
>> I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas
>> mileage on the same highway several times. From my house to Des
>> Moines kum & Go and I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its
>> always different. Wind has a lot to play in it so I just can't see
>> the sense in comparing octane, when it has nothing to do with
>> mileage in the first place.
>
> Geez, I'd be ecstatic to get that good. Best I got so far is 39 on a
> long H.O.G. ride. Around town I'm only getting 36 on a brand-new
> Ultra.
>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
I turn 2 grand at 55 that helps.
When I go to J&P cycle I can get 55 on the way there, the wind is to my
back. On the way home I may get 45 going into the wind. That is why I just
can't see anyone fussing over octane and fuel mileage. There are just to
many variables in gas mileage in the first place.
--
Carl
99 FLSTF
I started out with nothing and
I just about have that paid for
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EZ wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 17:44:28 -0500, "Carl" <softailfb999@yahoo,com >
> wrote:
>
>> I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas
>> mileage on the same highway several times. From my house to Des
>> Moines kum & Go and I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its
>> always different. Wind has a lot to play in it so I just can't see
>> the sense in comparing octane, when it has nothing to do with
>> mileage in the first place.
>
> Geez, I'd be ecstatic to get that good. Best I got so far is 39 on a
> long H.O.G. ride. Around town I'm only getting 36 on a brand-new
> Ultra.
>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
I turn 2 grand at 55 that helps.
When I go to J&P cycle I can get 55 on the way there, the wind is to my
back. On the way home I may get 45 going into the wind. That is why I just
can't see anyone fussing over octane and fuel mileage. There are just to
many variables in gas mileage in the first place.
--
Carl
99 FLSTF
I started out with nothing and
I just about have that paid for
Remove one 9 to reply
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
"Carl" wrote ...
> When I go to J&P cycle I can get 55 on the way there, the
> wind is to my back. On the way home I may get 45 going
> into the wind. That is why I just can't see anyone fussing
> over octane and fuel mileage. There are just to many
> variables in gas mileage in the first place.
>
The one many tend to overlook is the gas tank. Let's work
with 40mpg and a typical fill-up is going to be around the 4
gallon mark. One tenth of a gallon on the top up is going to
make 1mpg in your calculations.
I figure if I can't afford the gas I can't afford the
Harley. Gas is cheap, even when the price sucks.
DaveN
"Carl" wrote ...
> When I go to J&P cycle I can get 55 on the way there, the
> wind is to my back. On the way home I may get 45 going
> into the wind. That is why I just can't see anyone fussing
> over octane and fuel mileage. There are just to many
> variables in gas mileage in the first place.
>
The one many tend to overlook is the gas tank. Let's work
with 40mpg and a typical fill-up is going to be around the 4
gallon mark. One tenth of a gallon on the top up is going to
make 1mpg in your calculations.
I figure if I can't afford the gas I can't afford the
Harley. Gas is cheap, even when the price sucks.
DaveN
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
Carl wrote:
> another nogn wrote:
> > "EZ" <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> > news:vkke14dh1lhfbbptr7lcb5f1savb0422ja@4ax,com ...
> >> Have a round of your choice on me. I'd like to know if there are any
> >> folks running regular (i.e., 87 octane) gasoline in their TC96
> >> engine, and if it is causing any problems? I ran regular unleaded in
> >> my '05 TC88 Low Rider with no problems at all.
> >>
> >> 91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
> >> regular.
> >>
> >> --
> >> _____ _____
> >>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
> >>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
> >>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
> >>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
> >
> > I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
> >
> > - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour period
> > - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
> > - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
> > - started with 91 octane
> > - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
> > - third tank was 87
> > The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down -
> > enough so that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly higher
> > price of the 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit different.
> >
> > Thanks for the java!
>
> I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas mileage
> on the same highway several times. From my house to Des Moines kum & Go and
> I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its always different. Wind has a lot
> to play in it so I just can't see the sense in comparing octane, when it has
> nothing to do with mileage in the first place.
>
> Unless your computer can sense ping and it retards the timing to keep it
> from pinging then octane plays a factor. That is why if a car manufacture
> says to run 91 they mean it. If you run 87 the computer will know its
> pinging, retard the timing and the mileage can suffer for it. The last I
> knew Harley didn't make such a computer so from my end of it I can't see
> comparing octane for mileage when I've ridden the same highway several times
> and always see a difference in mileage with the same octane. And, I check my
> mileage all the time, not kidding I check it at every stop at all the long
> rides. Not that Des Moines is that far from me but I still check it.
>
Harley uses ion sensing knock detection like most of the car manufacturers do.
nobody #1
or at least they did
Carl wrote:
> another nogn wrote:
> > "EZ" <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> > news:vkke14dh1lhfbbptr7lcb5f1savb0422ja@4ax,com ...
> >> Have a round of your choice on me. I'd like to know if there are any
> >> folks running regular (i.e., 87 octane) gasoline in their TC96
> >> engine, and if it is causing any problems? I ran regular unleaded in
> >> my '05 TC88 Low Rider with no problems at all.
> >>
> >> 91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
> >> regular.
> >>
> >> --
> >> _____ _____
> >>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
> >>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
> >>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
> >>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
> >
> > I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
> >
> > - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour period
> > - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
> > - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
> > - started with 91 octane
> > - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
> > - third tank was 87
> > The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down -
> > enough so that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly higher
> > price of the 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit different.
> >
> > Thanks for the java!
>
> I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas mileage
> on the same highway several times. From my house to Des Moines kum & Go and
> I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its always different. Wind has a lot
> to play in it so I just can't see the sense in comparing octane, when it has
> nothing to do with mileage in the first place.
>
> Unless your computer can sense ping and it retards the timing to keep it
> from pinging then octane plays a factor. That is why if a car manufacture
> says to run 91 they mean it. If you run 87 the computer will know its
> pinging, retard the timing and the mileage can suffer for it. The last I
> knew Harley didn't make such a computer so from my end of it I can't see
> comparing octane for mileage when I've ridden the same highway several times
> and always see a difference in mileage with the same octane. And, I check my
> mileage all the time, not kidding I check it at every stop at all the long
> rides. Not that Des Moines is that far from me but I still check it.
>
Harley uses ion sensing knock detection like most of the car manufacturers do.
nobody #1
or at least they did
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
nobody #1 wrote:
>> Carl wrote:
>>
>>> another nogn wrote:
>>>> "EZ" <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
>>>> news:vkke14dh1lhfbbptr7lcb5f1savb0422ja@4ax,com ...
>>>>> Have a round of your choice on me. I'd like to know if there are
>>>>> any folks running regular (i.e., 87 octane) gasoline in their TC96
>>>>> engine, and if it is causing any problems? I ran regular unleaded
>>>>> in my '05 TC88 Low Rider with no problems at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> 91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>>>>> regular.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _____ _____
>>>>>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
>>>>>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
>>>>>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
>>>>>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
>>>>
>>>> I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
>>>>
>>>> - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour
>>>> period
>>>> - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
>>>> - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
>>>> - started with 91 octane
>>>> - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
>>>> - third tank was 87
>>>> The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down -
>>>> enough so that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly
>>>> higher price of the 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the java!
>>>
>>> I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas
>>> mileage on the same highway several times. From my house to Des
>>> Moines kum & Go and I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its
>>> always different. Wind has a lot to play in it so I just can't see
>>> the sense in comparing octane, when it has nothing to do with
>>> mileage in the first place.
>>>
>>> Unless your computer can sense ping and it retards the timing to
>>> keep it from pinging then octane plays a factor. That is why if a
>>> car manufacture says to run 91 they mean it. If you run 87 the
>>> computer will know its pinging, retard the timing and the mileage
>>> can suffer for it. The last I knew Harley didn't make such a
>>> computer so from my end of it I can't see comparing octane for
>>> mileage when I've ridden the same highway several times and always
>>> see a difference in mileage with the same octane. And, I check my
>>> mileage all the time, not kidding I check it at every stop at all
>>> the long rides. Not that Des Moines is that far from me but I still
>>> check it.
>>>
>>
>> Harley uses ion sensing knock detection like most of the car
>> manufacturers do.
>>
>>
>>
>> nobody #1
>> or at least they did
>
When did they start using it. Sense I'm not EFI its not something I would
have taken knowledge of.
--
Carl
99 FLSTF
I started out with nothing and
I just about have that paid for
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nobody #1 wrote:
>> Carl wrote:
>>
>>> another nogn wrote:
>>>> "EZ" <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
>>>> news:vkke14dh1lhfbbptr7lcb5f1savb0422ja@4ax,com ...
>>>>> Have a round of your choice on me. I'd like to know if there are
>>>>> any folks running regular (i.e., 87 octane) gasoline in their TC96
>>>>> engine, and if it is causing any problems? I ran regular unleaded
>>>>> in my '05 TC88 Low Rider with no problems at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> 91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>>>>> regular.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _____ _____
>>>>>> ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
>>>>>> _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
>>>>>>> ___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
>>>>>> _____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
>>>>
>>>> I ran lower octane for a few miles with my 04 TC88 last year.
>>>>
>>>> - cruised about 450 highway miles on a Saturday over a 6 hour
>>>> period
>>>> - temp at start (9:00am) was about 70F and at the end was about 85F
>>>> - kept a nearly constant highway speed of about 70mph
>>>> - started with 91 octane
>>>> - second tank was a mix of 91 and 87
>>>> - third tank was 87
>>>> The mileage decreased (about 5%) as the octane level went down -
>>>> enough so that the higher mileage nearly paid for the slightly
>>>> higher price of the 91 octane - last year. This year may be bit
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the java!
>>>
>>> I run 89 octane in mine and that is all I run. I've checked my gas
>>> mileage on the same highway several times. From my house to Des
>>> Moines kum & Go and I've got any where from 52 down to 48, its
>>> always different. Wind has a lot to play in it so I just can't see
>>> the sense in comparing octane, when it has nothing to do with
>>> mileage in the first place.
>>>
>>> Unless your computer can sense ping and it retards the timing to
>>> keep it from pinging then octane plays a factor. That is why if a
>>> car manufacture says to run 91 they mean it. If you run 87 the
>>> computer will know its pinging, retard the timing and the mileage
>>> can suffer for it. The last I knew Harley didn't make such a
>>> computer so from my end of it I can't see comparing octane for
>>> mileage when I've ridden the same highway several times and always
>>> see a difference in mileage with the same octane. And, I check my
>>> mileage all the time, not kidding I check it at every stop at all
>>> the long rides. Not that Des Moines is that far from me but I still
>>> check it.
>>>
>>
>> Harley uses ion sensing knock detection like most of the car
>> manufacturers do.
>>
>>
>>
>> nobody #1
>> or at least they did
>
When did they start using it. Sense I'm not EFI its not something I would
have taken knowledge of.
--
Carl
99 FLSTF
I started out with nothing and
I just about have that paid for
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Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
Carl wrote:
> nobody #1 wrote:
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>
>>>> another nogn wrote:
snip
>>>
>>> Harley uses ion sensing knock detection like most of the car
>>> manufacturers do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> nobody #1
>>> or at least they did
>>
> When did they start using it. Sense I'm not EFI its not something I
> would have taken knowledge of.
Never mind,
http :// www .nightrider,com /biketech/motorcycle_efi_basics.htm
Carl wrote:
> nobody #1 wrote:
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>
>>>> another nogn wrote:
snip
>>>
>>> Harley uses ion sensing knock detection like most of the car
>>> manufacturers do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> nobody #1
>>> or at least they did
>>
> When did they start using it. Sense I'm not EFI its not something I
> would have taken knowledge of.
Never mind,
http :// www .nightrider,com /biketech/motorcycle_efi_basics.htm
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:55:15 GMT, EZ <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net >
wrote:
>91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>regular.
Answering my own question here, I sat down and did the math. Looks
like I'll save about $60/year - on average, a whopping five bucks a
month - if I put lower octane fuel in my $25,000 Harley. Not worth it.
I'm having way too much fun riding it to have it need premature engine
work because I was too damn cheap to put the right gas in it!
Sorry for the bandwidth and noise - everybody have a few drinks on me
while the plastic's still good.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:55:15 GMT, EZ <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net >
wrote:
>91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>regular.
Answering my own question here, I sat down and did the math. Looks
like I'll save about $60/year - on average, a whopping five bucks a
month - if I put lower octane fuel in my $25,000 Harley. Not worth it.
I'm having way too much fun riding it to have it need premature engine
work because I was too damn cheap to put the right gas in it!
Sorry for the bandwidth and noise - everybody have a few drinks on me
while the plastic's still good.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:34:56 GMT, EZ <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net >
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:55:15 GMT, EZ <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net >
>wrote:
>
>>91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>>regular.
>
>Answering my own question here, I sat down and did the math. Looks
>like I'll save about $60/year - on average, a whopping five bucks a
>month - if I put lower octane fuel in my $25,000 Harley. Not worth it.
>I'm having way too much fun riding it to have it need premature engine
>work because I was too damn cheap to put the right gas in it!
>
>Sorry for the bandwidth and noise - everybody have a few drinks on me
>while the plastic's still good.
You just need to ride more, so you'll save more.
Yes, I've been hanging around my wife too long.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC(P)
'95 Wrangler YJ
BS#132, TOMKAT, SENS, SLOB#13
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:34:56 GMT, EZ <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net >
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:55:15 GMT, EZ <EZ.Rider@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net >
>wrote:
>
>>91/93 octane gas in St. Louis is 25 cents more per gallon than
>>regular.
>
>Answering my own question here, I sat down and did the math. Looks
>like I'll save about $60/year - on average, a whopping five bucks a
>month - if I put lower octane fuel in my $25,000 Harley. Not worth it.
>I'm having way too much fun riding it to have it need premature engine
>work because I was too damn cheap to put the right gas in it!
>
>Sorry for the bandwidth and noise - everybody have a few drinks on me
>while the plastic's still good.
You just need to ride more, so you'll save more.
Yes, I've been hanging around my wife too long.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC(P)
'95 Wrangler YJ
BS#132, TOMKAT, SENS, SLOB#13
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Re: Regular Gas in a TC96?
On Thu, 01 May 2008 04:44:45 -0500, Old Crow <walliscrow@yahoo,com >
wrote:
>You just need to ride more, so you'll save more.
>
>Yes, I've been hanging around my wife too long.
Heh. Yeah, I keep finding QVC boxes on the front porch when I get home
before she does. She must be saving a ton of money!
Only got 2K miles on the new scoot, but that'll change after a few
trips.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
On Thu, 01 May 2008 04:44:45 -0500, Old Crow <walliscrow@yahoo,com >
wrote:
>You just need to ride more, so you'll save more.
>
>Yes, I've been hanging around my wife too long.
Heh. Yeah, I keep finding QVC boxes on the front porch when I get home
before she does. She must be saving a ton of money!
Only got 2K miles on the new scoot, but that'll change after a few
trips.
--
_____ _____
| ____| |__ / Larry from St. Louis, MO
| _| / / SENS, MAMBM, MISFIT, TOMKAT
| |___ / /_ BS #269 DOF #(I forget)
|_____| /____| 105th Anniversary Edition Ultra
