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1983 honda CB1000C

Reply from: firestud22@hotmail,com
Date: 05 Jan 2008, 17:28
1983 honda CB1000C

I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.

Reply from: SC Tom
Date: 05 Jan 2008, 19:32
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C


<firestud22@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:0c7cd2ce-1081-4b00-9f65-2a18496b0e04@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
> where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.

Your Honda dealer will have them.

Tom


Reply from: The Older Gentleman
Date: 05 Jan 2008, 21:38
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

<firestud22@hotmail,com > wrote:

> I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
> where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.

Ooooh, tricky, tricky.....

I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb, but have you tried a
Honda dealer?



--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

Reply from: Mark Olson
Date: 05 Jan 2008, 22:04
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> <firestud22@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a 1983 honda CB1000C head gasekt does anybody know
>> where i can get one of these. please let me know thanks.
>
> Ooooh, tricky, tricky.....
>
> I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb, but have you tried a
> Honda dealer?

12251-MG1-405 GASKET, CYL HD $47.75 + shipping from
http :// www .servicehonda,com

http :// www .ronayers,com says it has been superseded by
Parts found with Part Number: 12251-MG1-405
Description *061A1-MG1-405
Price $53.85

You can of course also order it from any Honda dealer but it's a
good bet that when you add their markup and sales tax it will be
cheaper to buy online. Service Honda is the cheapest place online
that I have found for OEM Honda parts.

If I was taking the head off I would buy the complete top end
gasket kit ("GASKET KIT A" IIRC), it's not much more expensive
than the head gasket alone, and you get all the valve seals, etc.
that are going to be in pretty bad shape after 25 years... hmmm.

After looking again at Service Honda's site, I see that 061A1-MG1-405
IS "GASKET KIT A" so if Ron Ayers is selling it for $53.85 I'd
jump on that, because Service Honda wants $136.10 for the complete
kit.

It totally mystifies me why this sort of question comes up so often.
Sure, there are cases where the manufacturer has discontinued a
particular part, but this isn't one of them. For some reason a lot
of folks seem to have an aversion to going to the dealership. Even
more inexplicable to me is that these same people also seem to have
unrealistic expectations about aftermarket suppliers being able to
supply esoteric parts many years after the bike was discontinued.

--
'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

Reply from: oldgeezer
Date: 05 Jan 2008, 23:22
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

>On Jan 5, 10:04 pm, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
> It totally mystifies me why this sort of question comes up so often.
<snip>

There always will be a polite MO who googles up the answer for them.
That's why.

Rob.


Reply from: The Older Gentleman
Date: 05 Jan 2008, 23:39
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

oldgeezer <schreuderrob@yahoo,com > wrote:

> >On Jan 5, 10:04 pm, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> <snip>
> > It totally mystifies me why this sort of question comes up so often.
> <snip>
>
> There always will be a polite MO who googles up the answer for them.
> That's why.
>
Heh. As opposed to a rude old git who'll tell them to fuck off and try
the obvious ;-)



--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

Reply from: Jack Hunt
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 05:15
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:38:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb,

*Somebody* is about to look like a dimbulb, that's for sure.

> but have you tried a Honda dealer?

Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years.

Try http :// www .westernhonda,com /fiche_select.asp They have a reputation for
having hard to find Honda parts.

--
Jack

Reply from: Bruce Farley
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 09:36
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

Where do you get this information? I have worked as a tech in Honda
shops for the last 35 (yes 35, I an an old fart!) years and do not find
that to be the case. Could you please give me a source for it?
Thank you,
Bruce

Jack Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:38:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
>>I don't want to show you up as a complete dimbulb,
>
>
> *Somebody* is about to look like a dimbulb, that's for sure.
>
>
>>but have you tried a Honda dealer?
>
>
> Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years.
>
> Try http :// www .westernhonda,com /fiche_select.asp They have a reputation for
> having hard to find Honda parts.
>
> --
> Jack


Reply from: The Older Gentleman
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 09:50
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

Bruce Farley <afakeaddress1@sbcglobal,net > wrote:

> Where do you get this information? I have worked as a tech in Honda
> shops for the last 35 (yes 35, I an an old fart!) years and do not find
> that to be the case. Could you please give me a source for it?

"I saw it on the internet so it has to be true"


--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

Reply from: Jack Hunt
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 15:33
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:36:48 GMT, Bruce Farley <afakeaddress1@sbcglobal,net >
wrote:

>Could you please give me a source for it?

Walk into any Honda dealer and ask for anything for a 1985 V65 Magna. I won't
have to tell you, they will.

They may say "We'll have to order that" and if you say "Go ahead and order it",
a couple of weeks later they'll tell you that it's no longer available from
Honda. Same thing they'll tell you about a 1982 CB1000 head gasket.

--
Jack

Reply from: The Older Gentleman
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 16:21
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

Jack Hunt <jhunt1x@tds,net > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:36:48 GMT, Bruce Farley <afakeaddress1@sbcglobal,net >
> wrote:
>
> >Could you please give me a source for it?
>
> Walk into any Honda dealer and ask for anything for a 1985 V65 Magna. I won't
> have to tell you, they will.

That's not a 10 year-old bike, it's a 23 year-old bike, so you're not
being consistent, are you?

>
> They may say "We'll have to order that"

I'd expect that. I wouldn't expect many dealers to devote shelf space to
gaskets for relatively unpopular bikes that are nearly a quarter-century
old.


>and if you say "Go ahead and order it",
> a couple of weeks later they'll tell you that it's no longer available from
> Honda. Same thing they'll tell you about a 1982 CB1000 head gasket

An OEM head gasket for a 1982 CB1000 is available, price
US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit. Are we feeling foolish yet?

Incidentally, the firm can also offer an OEM head gasket for a V65 Magna
can be had for US$29.98, OEM, carriage extra. Plus loads of other bits

What you've highlighted is the inadequacy of some (many?) Honda dealers,
*not* Honda's spares back-up.



--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

Reply from: Jack Hunt
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 18:48
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit.

That's not a Honda dealer, is it?

>Are we feeling foolish yet?

Yeah, I guess you are but you'll never admit it.

The fact is that Honda does not support the older bikes. I never said the parts
aren't out there because they are. You just won't get them from a Honda dealer
from Honda stock.

Ford doesn't support the Model T anymore but you can still get any part you
need. You just won't get it from Ford. And you may pay through the nose to get
it.

And some of the parts aren't out there anywhere. Find an ignition module for an
85 Magna. Or something common, like a gas tank or a side cover.

--
Jack

Reply from: The Older Gentleman
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 19:18
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

Jack Hunt <jhunt1x@tds,net > wrote:

> >US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit.
>
> That's not a Honda dealer, is it?

It's a genuine Honda part, and it's available. So a Honda dealer can
obtain it.

>
> >Are we feeling foolish yet?
>
> Yeah, I guess you are but you'll never admit it.

That's because I'm not the one looking an ass.

>
> The fact is that Honda does not support the older bikes.

They as sure as hell support bikes older than 10 years, which is what
you *did* say.

> I never said the parts aren't out there because they are. You just won't
> get them from a Honda dealer from Honda stock.

Yes, you *will*,if you use a good dealer. Once again, you are confusing
an idle dealer's policy with that of Honda itself. This crucial
difference has already been pointed out to you and you are choosing to
ignore it.

>
> Ford doesn't support the Model T anymore but you can still get any part
> you need. You just won't get it from Ford. And you may pay through the
> nose to get it.
>
> And some of the parts aren't out there anywhere. Find an ignition module
> for an 85 Magna. Or something common, like a gas tank or a side cover.

I acknowledged that some parts are unavailable. I pointed out that an
'85 Magna is nearly a quarter of a century old, and your assertion was
that bikes over 10 years old, not 23 years old, were not supported. I
also pointed out that this was not a particularly popular model anyway.


--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

Reply from: Jack Hunt
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 18:49
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>What you've highlighted is the inadequacy of some (many?) Honda dealers,
>*not* Honda's spares back-up.

Honda corporate policy. When whatever is still on the shelf for the older bikes
is gone, there won't be any more, not from Honda.

--
Jack

Reply from: The Older Gentleman
Date: 06 Jan 2008, 19:18
Re: 1983 honda CB1000C

Jack Hunt <jhunt1x@tds,net > wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:15 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >What you've highlighted is the inadequacy of some (many?) Honda dealers,
> >*not* Honda's spares back-up.
>
> Honda corporate policy. When whatever is still on the shelf for the older
> bikes is gone, there won't be any more, not from Honda.
>
Oh yes, agreed. *But the cut-off period is longer than 10 years*.

And Honda *does* still keep making parts for bikes far, far older, if
there is sufficient demand (and thus profit).


--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com


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