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Are they nuts?
Are they nuts?
I can't find an auto tech newsgroup. VW wants $800 to change a $36
timing belt on the 1.9 Turbodiesel. Are they nuts? I guess i'll be doing
that myself. Pushing 100k miles prolly should be changed. But a belt for
timing? Why not a chain? Seems like the weak link in this engine that
would have no problem going 300k miles. Have to tear it apart for a
stinking belt. It IS an interference engine so when the belt breaks the
pistons crush all the open valves.
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Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8
I can't find an auto tech newsgroup. VW wants $800 to change a $36
timing belt on the 1.9 Turbodiesel. Are they nuts? I guess i'll be doing
that myself. Pushing 100k miles prolly should be changed. But a belt for
timing? Why not a chain? Seems like the weak link in this engine that
would have no problem going 300k miles. Have to tear it apart for a
stinking belt. It IS an interference engine so when the belt breaks the
pistons crush all the open valves.
--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8
Re: Are they nuts?
On 13 Mar, 12:29, "Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)"
<boobooililili...@roadrunner . com > wrote:
> I can't find an auto tech newsgroup. VW wants $800 to change a $36
> timing belt on the 1.9 Turbodiesel. Are they nuts? I guess i'll be doing
> that myself. Pushing 100k miles prolly should be changed. But a belt for
> timing? Why not a chain? Seems like the weak link in this engine that
> would have no problem going 300k miles. Have to tear it apart for a
> stinking belt. It IS an interference engine so when the belt breaks the
> pistons crush all the open valves.
Most cars seem to use belts rather than chains. Quieter and cheaper.
Some are easier to change than others - on some Fiats and Alfa Romeos,
I think you have to remove the engine to change the belt, which is
daft.
My Nissan uses a chain. So did my Saab. I don't know which other makes
do.
A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
As for bikes, quite a few use belt drive for the cams.
X-posted to ukrm, where there are several car nuts.
On 13 Mar, 12:29, "Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)"
<boobooililili...@roadrunner . com > wrote:
> I can't find an auto tech newsgroup. VW wants $800 to change a $36
> timing belt on the 1.9 Turbodiesel. Are they nuts? I guess i'll be doing
> that myself. Pushing 100k miles prolly should be changed. But a belt for
> timing? Why not a chain? Seems like the weak link in this engine that
> would have no problem going 300k miles. Have to tear it apart for a
> stinking belt. It IS an interference engine so when the belt breaks the
> pistons crush all the open valves.
Most cars seem to use belts rather than chains. Quieter and cheaper.
Some are easier to change than others - on some Fiats and Alfa Romeos,
I think you have to remove the engine to change the belt, which is
daft.
My Nissan uses a chain. So did my Saab. I don't know which other makes
do.
A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
As for bikes, quite a few use belt drive for the cams.
X-posted to ukrm, where there are several car nuts.
Re: Are they nuts?
"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> On 13 Mar, 12:29, "Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)"
> <boobooililili...@roadrunner . com > wrote:
>> I can't find an auto tech newsgroup. VW wants $800 to change a $36
>> timing belt on the 1.9 Turbodiesel. Are they nuts? I guess i'll be doing
>> that myself. Pushing 100k miles prolly should be changed. But a belt for
>> timing? Why not a chain?
Noise emissions, for starters. Chains do make noise, and with ever
tightening noise emissions, a cambelt is an easy way to remove some
mechanical noise. Not to mention that you can use them for other things
as well like driving the waterpump etc.
>> Seems like the weak link in this engine that
>> would have no problem going 300k miles. Have to tear it apart for a
>> stinking belt.
You don't have to "tear it apart", you have to remove the cover over the
belt and more or less stuff that's in the way of getting it out.
Oh, and while you're in there, I'd consider replacing the tensioner
wheels and similar items.
>> It IS an interference engine so when the belt breaks the
>> pistons crush all the open valves.
>
>
> Most cars seem to use belts rather than chains. Quieter and cheaper.
> Some are easier to change than others - on some Fiats and Alfa Romeos,
> I think you have to remove the engine to change the belt, which is
> daft.
On some the workshop manual suggests that because of space issues. Most
engine bays these days are so cramped that you've got to do weird and
wonderful things just to access basic components (on some transverse
sixes, you have to remove parts of the manifold to get at the read spark
plugs). This is often because engine bays seem to get smaller in
relation to engine size, plus all the anciliaries that you need these
days for 'creature comforts'.
> My Nissan uses a chain. So did my Saab. I don't know which other makes
> do.
Some BMWs (but not all), a lot of Mercedes engines, most of the US V8
engines...
> A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
> on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
> problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts -
problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change it or
fucked up the change.
And it's not exactly unknown for chains to wear and/or snap either.
> As for bikes, quite a few use belt drive for the cams.
>
> X-posted to ukrm, where there are several car nuts.
*waves*
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"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> On 13 Mar, 12:29, "Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)"
> <boobooililili...@roadrunner . com > wrote:
>> I can't find an auto tech newsgroup. VW wants $800 to change a $36
>> timing belt on the 1.9 Turbodiesel. Are they nuts? I guess i'll be doing
>> that myself. Pushing 100k miles prolly should be changed. But a belt for
>> timing? Why not a chain?
Noise emissions, for starters. Chains do make noise, and with ever
tightening noise emissions, a cambelt is an easy way to remove some
mechanical noise. Not to mention that you can use them for other things
as well like driving the waterpump etc.
>> Seems like the weak link in this engine that
>> would have no problem going 300k miles. Have to tear it apart for a
>> stinking belt.
You don't have to "tear it apart", you have to remove the cover over the
belt and more or less stuff that's in the way of getting it out.
Oh, and while you're in there, I'd consider replacing the tensioner
wheels and similar items.
>> It IS an interference engine so when the belt breaks the
>> pistons crush all the open valves.
>
>
> Most cars seem to use belts rather than chains. Quieter and cheaper.
> Some are easier to change than others - on some Fiats and Alfa Romeos,
> I think you have to remove the engine to change the belt, which is
> daft.
On some the workshop manual suggests that because of space issues. Most
engine bays these days are so cramped that you've got to do weird and
wonderful things just to access basic components (on some transverse
sixes, you have to remove parts of the manifold to get at the read spark
plugs). This is often because engine bays seem to get smaller in
relation to engine size, plus all the anciliaries that you need these
days for 'creature comforts'.
> My Nissan uses a chain. So did my Saab. I don't know which other makes
> do.
Some BMWs (but not all), a lot of Mercedes engines, most of the US V8
engines...
> A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
> on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
> problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts -
problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change it or
fucked up the change.
And it's not exactly unknown for chains to wear and/or snap either.
> As for bikes, quite a few use belt drive for the cams.
>
> X-posted to ukrm, where there are several car nuts.
*waves*
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Re: Are they nuts?
On 13 Mar, 16:31, The Roaming Boxhead
<tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
> > on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
> > problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
>
> That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts -
> problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change it or
> fucked up the change.
>
He says that (according to the garage viewing the carnage), there were
some vital washers on the puller which were fitted the wrong way round
so the pulleys were not exactly in line.
The Renault garage that replaced the belt says (predictably enough):
"We fitted it perfectly, mate."
The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
On 13 Mar, 16:31, The Roaming Boxhead
<tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
> > on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
> > problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
>
> That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts -
> problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change it or
> fucked up the change.
>
He says that (according to the garage viewing the carnage), there were
some vital washers on the puller which were fitted the wrong way round
so the pulleys were not exactly in line.
The Renault garage that replaced the belt says (predictably enough):
"We fitted it perfectly, mate."
The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
Re: Are they nuts?
TOG@Toil wibbled:
> On 13 Mar, 16:31, The Roaming Boxhead
> <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > > A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt
> > > snap on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think
> > > there's a problem with belts, generally, as long as they're
> > > changed religiously.
> >
> > That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts
> > - problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change
> > it or fucked up the change.
> >
>
> He says that (according to the garage viewing the carnage), there were
> some vital washers on the puller which were fitted the wrong way round
> so the pulleys were not exactly in line.
>
> The Renault garage that replaced the belt says (predictably enough):
> "We fitted it perfectly, mate."
>
> The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
They are a complete waste of time and money.
Some time ago I had the cam belt replace on my Rover 820 as a
precaution. Just under 4k miles later it let go resulting in 8 bent
valves.
The garage claimed it wasn't their fault so I got an RAC inspection
(circa £100 some years ago) as I thought a tad ureasonable that a
'properly fitted' belt and belt kit should go so quickly.
He turned out to be a complete waste of space. The threat of a small
claims action swiftly sorted it in my favour with the garage.
I haven't used either of the twats again.
--
Buzby
There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot
TOG@Toil wibbled:
> On 13 Mar, 16:31, The Roaming Boxhead
> <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > > A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt
> > > snap on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think
> > > there's a problem with belts, generally, as long as they're
> > > changed religiously.
> >
> > That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts
> > - problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change
> > it or fucked up the change.
> >
>
> He says that (according to the garage viewing the carnage), there were
> some vital washers on the puller which were fitted the wrong way round
> so the pulleys were not exactly in line.
>
> The Renault garage that replaced the belt says (predictably enough):
> "We fitted it perfectly, mate."
>
> The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
They are a complete waste of time and money.
Some time ago I had the cam belt replace on my Rover 820 as a
precaution. Just under 4k miles later it let go resulting in 8 bent
valves.
The garage claimed it wasn't their fault so I got an RAC inspection
(circa £100 some years ago) as I thought a tad ureasonable that a
'properly fitted' belt and belt kit should go so quickly.
He turned out to be a complete waste of space. The threat of a small
claims action swiftly sorted it in my favour with the garage.
I haven't used either of the twats again.
--
Buzby
There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot
Re: Are they nuts?
Buzby <gb@pumpupthe . net > wrote:
> TOG@Toil wibbled:
> > The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
>
> They are a complete waste of time and money.
>
> Some time ago I had the cam belt replace on my Rover 820 as a
> precaution. Just under 4k miles later it let go resulting in 8 bent
> valves.
>
> The garage claimed it wasn't their fault so I got an RAC inspection
> (circa £100 some years ago) as I thought a tad ureasonable that a
> 'properly fitted' belt and belt kit should go so quickly.
Thats worse than my Octavia.
14 months/6000 miles after a belt/tensioner chnage, the tensioner roller
seized up.
I heard a squealing sound, had a quick look under the bonnet, couldnt
see anything amiss, so put it down as a loose auxilary belt.
I drove off, then engine died.
It has an Audi 20 valve engine, that are known to be self destructing
buggers when a belt goes.
A weeks worry followed, but when I eventually got the head off, only 6
valves were slightly bent, with no piston damage.
The head is still sat in my shed, awaiting me to get the time to strip
it down and take to the engineering shop.
I reckon it'll still be £350 worth all in to repair it, which is a bit
of a bummer.
Alan.
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Buzby <gb@pumpupthe . net > wrote:
> TOG@Toil wibbled:
> > The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
>
> They are a complete waste of time and money.
>
> Some time ago I had the cam belt replace on my Rover 820 as a
> precaution. Just under 4k miles later it let go resulting in 8 bent
> valves.
>
> The garage claimed it wasn't their fault so I got an RAC inspection
> (circa £100 some years ago) as I thought a tad ureasonable that a
> 'properly fitted' belt and belt kit should go so quickly.
Thats worse than my Octavia.
14 months/6000 miles after a belt/tensioner chnage, the tensioner roller
seized up.
I heard a squealing sound, had a quick look under the bonnet, couldnt
see anything amiss, so put it down as a loose auxilary belt.
I drove off, then engine died.
It has an Audi 20 valve engine, that are known to be self destructing
buggers when a belt goes.
A weeks worry followed, but when I eventually got the head off, only 6
valves were slightly bent, with no piston damage.
The head is still sat in my shed, awaiting me to get the time to strip
it down and take to the engineering shop.
I reckon it'll still be £350 worth all in to repair it, which is a bit
of a bummer.
Alan.
--
To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.
Re: Are they nuts?
"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> On 13 Mar, 16:31, The Roaming Boxhead
> <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> > A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
>> > on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
>> > problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
>>
>> That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts -
>> problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change it or
>> fucked up the change.
>>
>
> He says that (according to the garage viewing the carnage), there were
> some vital washers on the puller which were fitted the wrong way round
> so the pulleys were not exactly in line.
>
> The Renault garage that replaced the belt says (predictably enough):
> "We fitted it perfectly, mate."
They should've read the box then - probably said something about
magically self-inverting washers.
I guess it's probably the "we're doing hundreds of them a year mate"
syndrome that leads them to work on autopilot. And then screw up on
autopilot...
> The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
>
> Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
> if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
Good luck to him anyway.
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"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> On 13 Mar, 16:31, The Roaming Boxhead
> <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> > A mate has just had an incorrectly fitted (12,000 miles ago) belt snap
>> > on his Renault Megane Scenic. He is Not Happy. I don't think there's a
>> > problem with belts, generally, as long as they're changed religiously.
>>
>> That sounds more a problem with Thick Fit type mechanics than belts -
>> problems with belts are usually because someone forgot to change it or
>> fucked up the change.
>>
>
> He says that (according to the garage viewing the carnage), there were
> some vital washers on the puller which were fitted the wrong way round
> so the pulleys were not exactly in line.
>
> The Renault garage that replaced the belt says (predictably enough):
> "We fitted it perfectly, mate."
They should've read the box then - probably said something about
magically self-inverting washers.
I guess it's probably the "we're doing hundreds of them a year mate"
syndrome that leads them to work on autopilot. And then screw up on
autopilot...
> The RAC has been called and is preparing a technical report.
>
> Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
> if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
Good luck to him anyway.
--
Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT
Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
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Re: Are they nuts?
On 13 Mar, 17:08, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
> if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
Yep I am that man. Much talking and argy bargy later the car has been
sent to Renault UK for independent assessment, the up shot is Renault
UK say that whilst the work is not technically incorrect something
must be wrong for the belt to fail at 11500 miles and 18 months later.
The work only had a 12 month warranty so they say the local garage
must do the work and cover their own labour costs and I should pay for
the parts but I should only pay wholesale price for them, ie what the
garage pays for them when they buy them from Renault UK. Not a good
result but much better than the FOAD stance the local garage
originally took. Nobody is owning up to a crap job and Renault Uk are
watching the dealers back.
The car will be sold as soon as I have it back as it is turning in to
a money pit. I will not be Nigeing it out on this site or selling it
to anybody who could turn up on my doorstep two weeks later as the
clutch looks like being near the end of its life and the compressor
for the aircon is very noisey.
We are looking at two cams, 16 valves , two pistons and a couple of
cam followers, god forbid it only went at tickover. I did however make
the radio two traffic announcements I could not have picked a better
place for it to happen.
Boxerboy
Developing an allergy to Renault
Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
chains rather than belts.
On 13 Mar, 17:08, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
> if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
Yep I am that man. Much talking and argy bargy later the car has been
sent to Renault UK for independent assessment, the up shot is Renault
UK say that whilst the work is not technically incorrect something
must be wrong for the belt to fail at 11500 miles and 18 months later.
The work only had a 12 month warranty so they say the local garage
must do the work and cover their own labour costs and I should pay for
the parts but I should only pay wholesale price for them, ie what the
garage pays for them when they buy them from Renault UK. Not a good
result but much better than the FOAD stance the local garage
originally took. Nobody is owning up to a crap job and Renault Uk are
watching the dealers back.
The car will be sold as soon as I have it back as it is turning in to
a money pit. I will not be Nigeing it out on this site or selling it
to anybody who could turn up on my doorstep two weeks later as the
clutch looks like being near the end of its life and the compressor
for the aircon is very noisey.
We are looking at two cams, 16 valves , two pistons and a couple of
cam followers, god forbid it only went at tickover. I did however make
the radio two traffic announcements I could not have picked a better
place for it to happen.
Boxerboy
Developing an allergy to Renault
Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
chains rather than belts.
Re: Are they nuts?
boxerboy wrote:
> Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
> chains rather than belts.
Shame you want new, I would have sold you my 1995 Nissan Micra Boston
1.0 litre for £15K
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Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X
boxerboy wrote:
> Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
> chains rather than belts.
Shame you want new, I would have sold you my 1995 Nissan Micra Boston
1.0 litre for £15K
--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X
Re: Are they nuts?
On 13 Mar, 19:08, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> boxerboy wrote:
> > Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
> > chains rather than belts.
>
> Shame you want new, I would have sold you my 1995 Nissan Micra Boston
> 1.0 litre for £15K
>
Nice try son but I couldn't get enough gear and people in to it for
the day job, plus there are enough people in the village where I live
trying to get me to buy their shagged cage without me coming down to
the peoples free republick of Flitwick
Boxer
On 13 Mar, 19:08, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> boxerboy wrote:
> > Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
> > chains rather than belts.
>
> Shame you want new, I would have sold you my 1995 Nissan Micra Boston
> 1.0 litre for £15K
>
Nice try son but I couldn't get enough gear and people in to it for
the day job, plus there are enough people in the village where I live
trying to get me to buy their shagged cage without me coming down to
the peoples free republick of Flitwick
Boxer
Re: Are they nuts?
boxerboy <ianphinks@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> Nice try son but I couldn't get enough gear and people in to it for
> the day job, plus there are enough people in the village where I live
> trying to get me to buy their shagged cage without me coming down to
> the peoples free republick of Flitwick
<VBG>
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boxerboy <ianphinks@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> Nice try son but I couldn't get enough gear and people in to it for
> the day job, plus there are enough people in the village where I live
> trying to get me to buy their shagged cage without me coming down to
> the peoples free republick of Flitwick
<VBG>
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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
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Re: Are they nuts?
boxerboy wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 19:08, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> > boxerboy wrote:
> > > Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
> > > chains rather than belts.
> >
> > Shame you want new, I would have sold you my 1995 Nissan Micra
> > Boston 1.0 litre for £15K
> >
>
> Nice try son but I couldn't get enough gear and people in to it for
> the day job, plus there are enough people in the village where I live
> trying to get me to buy their shagged cage without me coming down to
> the peoples free republick of Flitwick
Plenty of room in the back, if you pack it well enough.
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/78131584@N00/2235832842/
And I drove it the 45 miles home
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Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X
boxerboy wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 19:08, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> > boxerboy wrote:
> > > Therefore folks I need a list of new cars under £15k that have cam
> > > chains rather than belts.
> >
> > Shame you want new, I would have sold you my 1995 Nissan Micra
> > Boston 1.0 litre for £15K
> >
>
> Nice try son but I couldn't get enough gear and people in to it for
> the day job, plus there are enough people in the village where I live
> trying to get me to buy their shagged cage without me coming down to
> the peoples free republick of Flitwick
Plenty of room in the back, if you pack it well enough.
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/78131584@N00/2235832842/
And I drove it the 45 miles home
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Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X
Re: Are they nuts?
boxerboy <ianphinks@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
> On 13 Mar, 17:08, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
>> if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
>
> Yep I am that man. Much talking and argy bargy later the car has been
> sent to Renault UK for independent assessment, the up shot is Renault
> UK say that whilst the work is not technically incorrect something
> must be wrong for the belt to fail at 11500 miles and 18 months later.
> The work only had a 12 month warranty so they say the local garage
> must do the work and cover their own labour costs and I should pay for
> the parts but I should only pay wholesale price for them, ie what the
> garage pays for them when they buy them from Renault UK. Not a good
> result but much better than the FOAD stance the local garage
> originally took. Nobody is owning up to a crap job and Renault Uk are
> watching the dealers back.
Funny, that. I guess the dealer will be pissed off enough as is...
> We are looking at two cams, 16 valves , two pistons and a couple of
> cam followers, god forbid it only went at tickover. I did however make
> the radio two traffic announcements I could not have picked a better
> place for it to happen.
I'd be tempted to get another engine out of a crashed one instead. My
guess would be that with the list above, a used engine would be the far
cheaper choice, even if only you end up paying wholesale prices.
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boxerboy <ianphinks@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
> On 13 Mar, 17:08, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Actually, the victim is Boxerboy who posts her from time to time, so
>> if he's reading this, I'll let him fill you in on the gory details.
>
> Yep I am that man. Much talking and argy bargy later the car has been
> sent to Renault UK for independent assessment, the up shot is Renault
> UK say that whilst the work is not technically incorrect something
> must be wrong for the belt to fail at 11500 miles and 18 months later.
> The work only had a 12 month warranty so they say the local garage
> must do the work and cover their own labour costs and I should pay for
> the parts but I should only pay wholesale price for them, ie what the
> garage pays for them when they buy them from Renault UK. Not a good
> result but much better than the FOAD stance the local garage
> originally took. Nobody is owning up to a crap job and Renault Uk are
> watching the dealers back.
Funny, that. I guess the dealer will be pissed off enough as is...
> We are looking at two cams, 16 valves , two pistons and a couple of
> cam followers, god forbid it only went at tickover. I did however make
> the radio two traffic announcements I could not have picked a better
> place for it to happen.
I'd be tempted to get another engine out of a crashed one instead. My
guess would be that with the list above, a used engine would be the far
cheaper choice, even if only you end up paying wholesale prices.
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Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
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"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar
Re: Are they nuts?
>
> I'd be tempted to get another engine out of a crashed one instead. My
> guess would be that with the list above, a used engine would be the far
> cheaper choice, even if only you end up paying wholesale prices.
>
> --
>
Have looked at that but not managed to locate one yet, well I found
one but the impact that wrote the car off put the engine on the
passenger seat, with passenger still under it. Its a 1.8 petrol lump
with scenic gearbox - they did not sell many in the uk.
Boxer
>
> I'd be tempted to get another engine out of a crashed one instead. My
> guess would be that with the list above, a used engine would be the far
> cheaper choice, even if only you end up paying wholesale prices.
>
> --
>
Have looked at that but not managed to locate one yet, well I found
one but the impact that wrote the car off put the engine on the
passenger seat, with passenger still under it. Its a 1.8 petrol lump
with scenic gearbox - they did not sell many in the uk.
Boxer
Re: Are they nuts?
boxerboy <ianphinks@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> I'd be tempted to get another engine out of a crashed one instead. My
>> guess would be that with the list above, a used engine would be the far
>> cheaper choice, even if only you end up paying wholesale prices.
>>
> Have looked at that but not managed to locate one yet, well I found
> one but the impact that wrote the car off put the engine on the
> passenger seat, with passenger still under it. Its a 1.8 petrol lump
> with scenic gearbox - they did not sell many in the uk.
Bugger. Good luck with the search...
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Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT
Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
The UKRM FAQ: * w w w .ukrm . net /faq/index.html
"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar
boxerboy <ianphinks@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> I'd be tempted to get another engine out of a crashed one instead. My
>> guess would be that with the list above, a used engine would be the far
>> cheaper choice, even if only you end up paying wholesale prices.
>>
> Have looked at that but not managed to locate one yet, well I found
> one but the impact that wrote the car off put the engine on the
> passenger seat, with passenger still under it. Its a 1.8 petrol lump
> with scenic gearbox - they did not sell many in the uk.
Bugger. Good luck with the search...
--
Morini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT
Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10
The UKRM FAQ: * w w w .ukrm . net /faq/index.html
"Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar
