Red

Red

More info about the new RED DSLR
http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html



Eric Stevens

Re: Red


"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message
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> More info about the new RED DSLR
> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>
>
>
> Eric Stevens

WTLY

Re: Red

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:57:46 +1300, Eric Stevens
<eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:

>More info about the new RED DSLR
> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>

Oops! I left out http :// www .red,com /epic_scarlet/



Eric Stevens

Re: Red

Eric Stevens added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

>>More info about the new RED DSLR
>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement
>>-from-a-red-one-user.html
>
> Oops! I left out http :// www .red,com /epic_scarlet/
>
for a minute I thought you meant the Reds, i.e., the Communists!
<grin>

--
HP, aka Jerry

"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking
real money" - Attributed to Sen. Everett Dirksen

Re: Red


"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message
news:7k1ph4t8olt2of49ntehr679dvb020kts5@4ax,com ...
> More info about the new RED DSLR
> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>
>
Not a dSLR, it has an EVF or a monitor. By the time it's set-up for photos
the body will be arount USD $20K, for a 25 mp FF non-dSLR.

Hmmmm, a year until delivery, USD $12,000 for a 24 mp non-dSLR body in
either Nikon or Canon mount. Note that does NOT include the EVF, it's just
the sensor module. But add the EVF ($3K) the battery ($450), the CF Module
($500) to the recorder and the I/O module (no price found)

So for about USD $20K you have a big bulky 24x36mm 24 megapixel with no
lens. The unti is around the size of a Mamiya RZ67, and looks cumbersome to
use.

AND IT IS NOT A dSLR!

Re: Red


"Me Here" <no-one@here.ca> wrote in message news:gfi5n8$g6o$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:7k1ph4t8olt2of49ntehr679dvb020kts5@4ax,com ...
>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>
>>
> Not a dSLR, it has an EVF or a monitor. By the time it's set-up for photos
> the body will be arount USD $20K, for a 25 mp FF non-dSLR.
>
> Hmmmm, a year until delivery, USD $12,000 for a 24 mp non-dSLR body in
> either Nikon or Canon mount. Note that does NOT include the EVF, it's just
> the sensor module. But add the EVF ($3K) the battery ($450), the CF Module
> ($500) to the recorder and the I/O module (no price found)
>
> So for about USD $20K you have a big bulky 24x36mm 24 megapixel with no
> lens. The unti is around the size of a Mamiya RZ67, and looks cumbersome
> to
> use.
>
> AND IT IS NOT A dSLR!
>
>

It should show you that Real Professionals don't use dSLRs!

ER

Re: Red

In article <gfi5n8$g6o$1@aioe.org>, "Me Here" <no-one@here.ca> wrote:

> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:7k1ph4t8olt2of49ntehr679dvb020kts5@4ax,com ...
> > More info about the new RED DSLR
> > http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-o
> > ne-user.html
> >
> >
> Not a dSLR, it has an EVF or a monitor. By the time it's set-up for photos
> the body will be arount USD $20K, for a 25 mp FF non-dSLR.
>
> Hmmmm, a year until delivery, USD $12,000 for a 24 mp non-dSLR body in
> either Nikon or Canon mount. Note that does NOT include the EVF, it's just
> the sensor module. But add the EVF ($3K) the battery ($450), the CF Module
> ($500) to the recorder and the I/O module (no price found)
>
> So for about USD $20K you have a big bulky 24x36mm 24 megapixel with no
> lens. The unti is around the size of a Mamiya RZ67, and looks cumbersome to
> use.
>
> AND IT IS NOT A dSLR!

The Doubters were out in force over the RED ONE Movie camera before it
was released... now it's a serious force in the marketplace.. I'm really
looking forward to seeing what happens with the scarlet... especially as
there are rumors of a Nikon MF DSLR in the next 12 months...
I think it's about time we forgot the reflex side of cameras, and the
mechanical shutter, that way we can concentrate on getting the best out
of the new technology, especially getting the dynamic range higher and
higher with new sensor technology.. The SLR was a magical invention, but
do we really need to stick to mechanically flapping mirrors, and
shutters in this day and age just because it was such an inovation 60
years ago...!!!! the production costs of the mechanical bits are so
great in comparison to the production of electronics, hence the
advancements in video cameras without the costly and hard to produce
tape mechanisms...

Re: Red

Me Here wrote:
> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:7k1ph4t8olt2of49ntehr679dvb020kts5@4ax,com ...
>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>
>>
> Not a dSLR, it has an EVF or a monitor. By the time it's set-up for photos
> the body will be arount USD $20K, for a 25 mp FF non-dSLR.
>
> Hmmmm, a year until delivery, USD $12,000 for a 24 mp non-dSLR body in
> either Nikon or Canon mount. Note that does NOT include the EVF, it's just
> the sensor module. But add the EVF ($3K) the battery ($450), the CF Module
> ($500) to the recorder and the I/O module (no price found)
>
> So for about USD $20K you have a big bulky 24x36mm 24 megapixel with no
> lens. The unti is around the size of a Mamiya RZ67, and looks cumbersome to
> use.
>
> AND IT IS NOT A dSLR!

Yeah but it's a 1080p EVF and a big budget Hollywood cinema camera too.

--
Paul Furman
www .edgehill,net
www .baynatives,com

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Re: Red

Eric Stevens wrote:
> More info about the new RED DSLR
> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>
>
>
> Eric Stevens

I want the Epic 617; 261 megapixels, 16 bit AD conversion, 13+ stop
dynamic range and all at 25 frames per second. That should fill my hard
drive pretty quickly.

Of course, according to some, it's just not possible . . .

Eric Miller
www .dyesscreek,com

Re: Red


"Eric Miller" <miller_nospam_eric@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:mo5Tk.65088$De7.37697@bignews7.bellsouth,net ...
> Eric Stevens wrote:
>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Stevens
>
> I want the Epic 617; 261 megapixels, 16 bit AD conversion, 13+ stop
> dynamic range and all at 25 frames per second. That should fill my hard
> drive pretty quickly.
>
> Of course, according to some, it's just not possible . . .
>

Me thinks the 617 is possible and they will most likely do it.

What I want to see is a 261 megapixel display to match the sensor. Talk
about seeing real life, that display would exceed the capabilities of the
human eye in most cases. If the display was a projector I would even start
going to movie theaters again to see that.

ER

Re: Red


"Eric Miller" <miller_nospam_eric@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:mo5Tk.65088$De7.37697@bignews7.bellsouth,net ...
> Eric Stevens wrote:
>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Stevens
>
> I want the Epic 617; 261 megapixels, 16 bit AD conversion, 13+ stop
> dynamic range and all at 25 frames per second. That should fill my hard
> drive pretty quickly.
>
> Of course, according to some, it's just not possible . . .

Hasselblad, Phase, Leaf, etc. I wonder who is actually fabricating that
CCD?

Re: Red

RichA wrote:
> "Eric Miller" <miller nospam eric@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> news:mo5Tk.65088$De7.37697@bignews7.bellsouth,net ...
>> Eric Stevens wrote:
>>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Stevens
>> I want the Epic 617; 261 megapixels, 16 bit AD conversion, 13+ stop
>> dynamic range and all at 25 frames per second. That should fill my hard
>> drive pretty quickly.
>>
>> Of course, according to some, it's just not possible . . .
>
> Hasselblad, Phase, Leaf, etc. I wonder who is actually fabricating that
> CCD?

The more recent Hassy's use a Kodak sensor. (Not sure who the 'fab'
is). Not sure for Leaf and Phase one. (Dalsa?).


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Re: Red


"RichA" <obama@haslittletime,com > wrote in message
news:SuKdnfK-ZdvtxoPUnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@giganews,com ...
>
> "Eric Miller" <miller_nospam_eric@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> news:mo5Tk.65088$De7.37697@bignews7.bellsouth,net ...
>> Eric Stevens wrote:
>>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Stevens
>>
>> I want the Epic 617; 261 megapixels, 16 bit AD conversion, 13+ stop
>> dynamic range and all at 25 frames per second. That should fill my hard
>> drive pretty quickly.
>>
>> Of course, according to some, it's just not possible . . .
>
> Hasselblad, Phase, Leaf, etc. I wonder who is actually fabricating that
> CCD?
>
It's FartwareT, like vapourware, but smells... I haven't found anyone who
is making a image sensor that large. It's likely going to be an array of
sensors that the firmware ignores the seams.

Re: Red

In article <gfmpm9$sri$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, Me <not@given.eh> wrote:

> It's FartwareT, like vapourware, but smells... I haven't found anyone who
> is making a image sensor that large. It's likely going to be an array of
> sensors that the firmware ignores the seams.

Apparently they make their own sensors. Going by the Red One it will be
a real product and a fantastic product but a niche product that only a
few will be able to use.

The fellow behind this company made a fortune with his sunglass company
and definitely has a great ego and the means to maintain a money losing
company for a while.

--
Charles

Re: Red

Seems reasonable, given they've got panelled ones over a gig in size
attached to telescopes today.

"Me" <not@given.eh> wrote in message news:gfmpm9$sri$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>
> "RichA" <obama@haslittletime,com > wrote in message
> news:SuKdnfK-ZdvtxoPUnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>
>> "Eric Miller" <miller_nospam_eric@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>> news:mo5Tk.65088$De7.37697@bignews7.bellsouth,net ...
>>> Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>> More info about the new RED DSLR
>>>> http :// www .pdnpulse,com /2008/11/thoughts-on-the-red-annoucement-from-a-red-one-user.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Stevens
>>>
>>> I want the Epic 617; 261 megapixels, 16 bit AD conversion, 13+ stop
>>> dynamic range and all at 25 frames per second. That should fill my hard
>>> drive pretty quickly.
>>>
>>> Of course, according to some, it's just not possible . . .
>>
>> Hasselblad, Phase, Leaf, etc. I wonder who is actually fabricating that
>> CCD?
>>
> It's FartwareT, like vapourware, but smells... I haven't found anyone who
> is making a image sensor that large. It's likely going to be an array of
> sensors that the firmware ignores the seams.
>
>
>