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New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

Reply from: Wayne J. Cosshall
Date: 11 Dec 2006, 12:07
New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

Hi All,

I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
international photography speaker:
< * w w w .dimagemaker . com /specials/fototips.php>
It is the simple things we often forget.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, * w w w .dimagemaker . com /
Blog * w w w .digitalimagemakerworld . com /

Reply from: John Phillips
Date: 15 Dec 2006, 10:20
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:07:15 +1100, "Wayne J. Cosshall"
<wayne@dimagemaker . com > wrote:

>I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
>international photography speaker:
>< * w w w .dimagemaker . com /specials/fototips.php>
>It is the simple things we often forget.

So where's the tip?

All I get is a page full of ads from Google, a portrait of the "author"
and some Amazon ads.
--
Regards,

John Phillips
Sydney, Australia

Reply from: Duncan
Date: 15 Dec 2006, 11:30
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

The tip John is how to drive more people to your site to pump up your hit
rate!!! ;-)

Agree with you that it has nothing to offer.

Duncan

"John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam . com > wrote in message
news:c5q4o29h915qqgnp8t0kbom72lacf56gk4@4ax . com ...
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:07:15 +1100, "Wayne J. Cosshall"
> <wayne@dimagemaker . com > wrote:
>
>>I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
>>international photography speaker:
>>< * w w w .dimagemaker . com /specials/fototips.php>
>>It is the simple things we often forget.
>
> So where's the tip?
>
> All I get is a page full of ads from Google, a portrait of the "author"
> and some Amazon ads.
> --
> Regards,
>
> John Phillips
> Sydney, Australia



Reply from: Wayne J. Cosshall
Date: 15 Dec 2006, 12:54
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

If you scroll down, depending on the size of your browser window, you
will find a series of links to the tip articles he has presented so far.
If you want to go to the latest tip it is:
< * w w w .dimagemaker . com /article.php?articleID=806>

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, * w w w .dimagemaker . com /
Blog * w w w .digitalimagemakerworld . com /

Reply from: R.J Heath
Date: 15 Dec 2006, 23:44
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
> If you scroll down, depending on the size of your browser window, you
> will find a series of links to the tip articles he has presented so far.
> If you want to go to the latest tip it is:
> < * w w w .dimagemaker . com /article.php?articleID=806>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>

Why not just post that the first time

Reply from: Wayne J. Cosshall
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 01:41
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

R.J Heath wrote:
> Why not just post that the first time

It never occurred to me that someone couldn't scroll down. Besides, if
you haven't read any of Mark's columns before, the way I posted people
would see not only that post but his others.

You can't please everyone.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, * w w w .dimagemaker . com /
Blog * w w w .digitalimagemakerworld . com /

Reply from: ray
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 01:59
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:41:57 +1100, Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:

> R.J Heath wrote:
>> Why not just post that the first time
>
> It never occurred to me that someone couldn't scroll down. Besides, if
> you haven't read any of Mark's columns before, the way I posted people
> would see not only that post but his others.
>
> You can't please everyone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne

Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.


Reply from: kosh
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 06:35
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

ray wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:41:57 +1100, Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
>
>
>>R.J Heath wrote:
>>
>>>Why not just post that the first time
>>
>>It never occurred to me that someone couldn't scroll down. Besides, if
>>you haven't read any of Mark's columns before, the way I posted people
>>would see not only that post but his others.
>>
>>You can't please everyone.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Wayne
>
>
> Two prime tenets of web site design:
>
> 1) make the links look like links
> 2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.
>


poorly designed ... yes
un-usable.....no

as the links have dates next to them it shoul dbe somewhat obvious.....
could be much more so though, when you have all of 10 seconds to get
someones attention enough to stay on the site!

kosh

Reply from: Wayne J. Cosshall
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 07:35
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

kosh wrote:
> poorly designed ... yes
> un-usable.....no
>
> as the links have dates next to them it shoul dbe somewhat obvious.....
> could be much more so though, when you have all of 10 seconds to get
> someones attention enough to stay on the site!
>
> kosh

I don't think one can say it is poorly designed without it being an ego
thing, just that you don't like the design or do not personally find it
clear or effective. I can tell you that I am constantly considering
changes to the site, and will take the preceding comments on board, as I
always do. However, if you have actually designed a site with as much
content as my one has, you'll know that there are a lot of issues in the
design of the site, many of which pull you in opposite directions.
Moving away from the 'traditional' blue underlined links is not
something you do lightly. Many sites have moved away from this, to a
greater or lesser extent, such as:
* w w w .theage . com .au/
and
* w w w .nytimes . com /
Others have not. It is, in fact, all a juggling act, usually informed by
assessments of the types of users visiting a site and their level of
proficiency.

There is the rollover change of color when you hover the cursor, but I
will change that to include an underline so it is even clearer.

The specifics of Mark's page are flexible. I put the cruise ad in to
support Mark. Without it the links to the individual columns comes up
much higher. I think I'll move it below the column links.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, * w w w .dimagemaker . com /
Blog * w w w .digitalimagemakerworld . com /

Reply from: Wayne J. Cosshall
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 07:36
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

ray wrote:
> Two prime tenets of web site design:
>
> 1) make the links look like links
> 2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.
>

I can tell you that I am constantly considering changes to the site, and
will take the preceding comments on board, as I always do. However, if
you have actually designed a site with as much content as my one has,
you'll know that there are a lot of issues in the design of the site,
many of which pull you in opposite directions. Moving away from the
'traditional' blue underlined links is not something you do lightly.
Many sites have moved away from this, to a greater or lesser extent,
such as:
* w w w .theage . com .au/
and
* w w w .nytimes . com /
Others have not. It is, in fact, all a juggling act, usually informed by
assessments of the types of users visiting a site and their level of
proficiency.

There is the rollover change of color when you hover the cursor, but I
will change that to include an underline so it is even clearer.

The specifics of Mark's page are flexible. I put the cruise ad in to
support Mark. Without it the links to the individual columns comes up
much higher. I think I'll move it below the column links.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, * w w w .dimagemaker . com /
Blog * w w w .digitalimagemakerworld . com /

Reply from: Rick Sciacca
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 18:15
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

On 12/16/06 1:36 AM, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker . com > wrote:

> Many sites have moved away from this, to a greater or lesser extent,
> such as:
> * w w w .theage . com .au/
> and
> * w w w .nytimes . com /

They put underlines when you mouse over, which lets browsers know it is a
link. Your site changes the color to indicate a link. That is fine with me,
I just think that you can't please everyone all the time. :)

-- Rick
* fixupix.tripod . com /
* w w w .backprint . com /cnypix



Reply from: James McNangle
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 23:43
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

ray <ray@zianet . com > wrote:

>Two prime tenets of web site design:
>
>1) make the links look like links
>2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

3) Get rid of all the crap!


James McNangle

Reply from: Wayne J. Cosshall
Date: 16 Dec 2006, 23:52
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

James McNangle wrote:
> ray <ray@zianet . com > wrote:
>
>> Two prime tenets of web site design:
>>
>> 1) make the links look like links
>> 2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.
>
> 3) Get rid of all the crap!
>
>
> James McNangle
Define crap?

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, * w w w .dimagemaker . com /
Blog * w w w .digitalimagemakerworld . com /

Reply from: Fred
Date: 17 Dec 2006, 06:35
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
> James McNangle wrote:
>> ray <ray@zianet . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Two prime tenets of web site design:
>>>
>>> 1) make the links look like links
>>> 2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.
>>
>> 3) Get rid of all the crap!
>>
>>
>> James McNangle
> Define crap?
>
your website layout for starters

Reply from: James McNangle
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 13:13
Re: New Foto Tip column by Mark Alberhasky

"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker . com > wrote:

>James McNangle wrote:
......
>> 3) Get rid of all the crap!
>>

>Define crap?

Perhaps the clue to the problem with your web site is contained in the line "The
online magazine and reference site for photography, graphic design, digital art,
Web design, video, illustration and image creation." Any one of these subjects
would be quite sufficient for a single web site, but you have them all together,
all mixed up in a horrendous jumble. And, even worse, this horrendous jumble is
reproduced on every page. About the only thing I can say in favour of the site
is that it doesn't sing or dance.

Consider the page * w w w .dimagemaker . com /article.php?articleID=799.

This is titled "A day of shooting with my Infrared converted Canon 350D". By
the time someone gets to this page all they want to see is what results you have
managed to get. But what do they get?

On the left, a column 160 pixels wide, containing a plague of totally irrelevant
links. On the right, another column 160 pixels wide, containing another plague
of equally irrelevant links. In the middle a couple of ads, then an
introduction, and yet another column 160 pixels wide, containing yet another
plague of irrelevant links. Below this we finally get to the demonstration
photos, all 450 pixels wide.

If you threw out all this rubbish, or sorted it into categories, with the
material relevant to each category on a separate page, so that this page only
displayed the actual test photos and your comments on them, you could make the
pictures much bigger, so that the viewer could really see what you are on about,
without being distracted by a whole heap of totally irrelevant crap.


James McNangle


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