need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
honeymoon recently. He really likes it and is intending to get
it enlarged and printed on canvas or something. I really like it
too, it's pretty bloody good.

I've had a bit of an edit of it. It's 3504x2336px full size, the
crops are smaller obviously.

I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
much quality.

But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
wide or something. I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
something.

Will it?

If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
doesn't print pixelated? Maybe blur it slightly to take out
pixelation?

What max size would you recommend? I think he just intends
hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)

Any other recommendations?

--
Troy Piggins
I always appreciate critique.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

Did you have a link?
:-)

Troy Piggins wrote:
> My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
> honeymoon recently. He really likes it and is intending to get
> it enlarged and printed on canvas or something. I really like it
> too, it's pretty bloody good.
>
> I've had a bit of an edit of it. It's 3504x2336px full size, the
> crops are smaller obviously.
>
> I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
> can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
> much quality.
>
> But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
> wide or something. I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
> something.
>
> Will it?
>
> If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
> doesn't print pixelated? Maybe blur it slightly to take out
> pixelation?
>
> What max size would you recommend? I think he just intends
> hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)
>
> Any other recommendations?
>

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

* Paul Furman wrote:
>
> Troy Piggins wrote:
>> My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
>> honeymoon recently. He really likes it and is intending to get
>> it enlarged and printed on canvas or something. I really like it
>> too, it's pretty bloody good.
>>
>> I've had a bit of an edit of it. It's 3504x2336px full size, the
>> crops are smaller obviously.
>>
>> I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
>> can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
>> much quality.
>>
>> But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
>> wide or something. I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
>> something.
>>
>> Will it?
>>
>> If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
>> doesn't print pixelated? Maybe blur it slightly to take out
>> pixelation?
>>
>> What max size would you recommend? I think he just intends
>> hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)
>>
>> Any other recommendations?
>
> Did you have a link?
> :-)

To the photo? Thought about that after I sent the other one. I
won't post the full sized ones, but here's some reduced for web
ones.

Here's the original he sent me:
* piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG

My edit:
* piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-full.jpg

Some crops I tried:
* piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
* piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
* piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg

What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?

--
Troy Piggins
I always appreciate critique.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

Troy Piggins wrote:
>
> Here's the original he sent me:
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG
>
> My edit:
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-full.jpg
>
> Some crops I tried:
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
>
> What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?

crop2 has an enhanced feeling of intimacy for me.

The horizon is level but the back of the seat isn't quite - worth a touch of
perspective correction?

I'd love to see a shot from a foot higher POV. That would stop the huts
shooting out of their heads, and would show what the disembodied glass is
standing on. Better with the glass cloned out?

The way his hand fits behind that cushion makes it look at a glance like he
has his hand down her top. Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a nit-pick
of the raw material. :-)

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

* Wilba wrote:
> Troy Piggins wrote:
>>
>> Here's the original he sent me:
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG
>>
>> My edit:
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-full.jpg
>>
>> Some crops I tried:
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
>>
>> What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?
>
> crop2 has an enhanced feeling of intimacy for me.

Yeah, I thought so too. That's why I did that crop. But maybe
it will make enlarging even more of an issue...

> The horizon is level but the back of the seat isn't quite - worth a touch of
> perspective correction?

Good point. Will look at that.

> I'd love to see a shot from a foot higher POV. That would stop the huts
> shooting out of their heads, and would show what the disembodied glass is
> standing on. Better with the glass cloned out?

I'll ask him if he likes it or wants it gone. I kind of liked it
- adds to the relaxed island feel maybe?

> The way his hand fits behind that cushion makes it look at a glance like he
> has his hand down her top. Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a nit-pick
> of the raw material. :-)

:) Well they /were/ on their honeymoon! :D

Thanks for the comments Wilba!

--
Troy Piggins
I always appreciate critique.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

Troy Piggins wrote:
> Wilba wrote:
>> Troy Piggins wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's the original he sent me:
>>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG
>>>
>>> My edit:
>>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-full.jpg
>>>
>>> Some crops I tried:
>>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
>>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
>>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
>>>
>>> What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?
>>
>> crop2 has an enhanced feeling of intimacy for me.
>
> Yeah, I thought so too. That's why I did that crop. But maybe
> it will make enlarging even more of an issue...
>
>> The horizon is level but the back of the seat isn't quite - worth a touch
>> of
>> perspective correction?
>
> Good point. Will look at that.
>
>> I'd love to see a shot from a foot higher POV. That would stop the huts
>> shooting out of their heads, and would show what the disembodied glass is
>> standing on. Better with the glass cloned out?
>
> I'll ask him if he likes it or wants it gone. I kind of liked it
> - adds to the relaxed island feel maybe?

Sure. I'm a minimalist - can't help it. :-)

>> The way his hand fits behind that cushion makes it look at a glance like
>> he
>> has his hand down her top. Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a
>> nit-pick
>> of the raw material. :-)
>
> :) Well they /were/ on their honeymoon! :D

Ah, OK, in that case, make the cushion and her top the same colour. :-D

> Thanks for the comments Wilba!

No worries.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

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Hate to be the one to pour cold water on this but no one bothered to
point it out before...

Mounting canvas 1 meter wide requires you to sacrifice up 70 mm of image
on each side if it's going to be displayed like most canvas prints are,
wrapped around the edge, 3D style.

You'll need to lift the shadows too, unless you like painted on hair.

Enlarge the image at your own peril. Professional print centers have
much better software for interpolation than Photoshop. Put your faith in
the printer. Try Office Works or Rabbit to see how bad it can look then
go to a pro who specializes in art reproduction.

Send the original image with instructions lest you damage it during
editing and get less than satisfactory results... If you are going to
shell out $350 you might as well maximize the chance of getting ultimate
quality back.

Or... Do what you want with it and pay $200 at Rabbit or Kmart. They
last a couple of years before the moths get them.


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Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

On May 1, 11:19 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> * Paul Furman wrote:
>
> > Troy Piggins wrote:
> >> My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
> >> honeymoon recently.  He really likes it and is intending to get
> >> it enlarged and printed on canvas or something.  I really like it
> >> too, it's pretty bloody good.
>
> >> I've had a bit of an edit of it.  It's 3504x2336px full size, the
> >> crops are smaller obviously.
>
> >> I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
> >> can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
> >> much quality.
>
> >> But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
> >> wide or something.  I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
> >> something.  
>
> >> Will it?
>
> >> If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
> >> doesn't print pixelated?  Maybe blur it slightly to take out
> >> pixelation?
>
> >> What max size would you recommend?  I think he just intends
> >> hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)
>
> >> Any other recommendations?
>
> > Did you have a link?
> > :-)
>
> To the photo?  Thought about that after I sent the other one.  I
> won't post the full sized ones, but here's some reduced for web
> ones.
>
> Here's the original he sent me: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG =
9434.JPG
>
> My edit: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG 9434-full.jpg
>
> Some crops I tried: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG 9434-pano.jp=
g * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG 9434-crop1.jpg * piggo . com /~=
troy/images/ausphoto/IMG 9434-crop2.jpg
>
> What do you think of the edit?  Ok?  Change anything?
>
> --
> Troy Piggins
> I always appreciate critique.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Sorry Troy, I can't give tips on certain Photoshop techniques, but if
it's ok with you I'd like to give my opinion.
This one is the best IMHO: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG 9434-=
crop2.jpg
As Wilba said, it has a more intimate feeling to it. Now, I've heard
you can remove things from a pic in PS. If this is possible, I would
remove one of the huts in the distance. The one just above her head
and his eye. It's not really distracting, but if it could be removed
the pic would be better. I wouldn't crop the bench out, as it adds to
the story. It really is a lovely pic. Congrats to your brother and
new sister-in-law!
Helen

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

* Helen wrote:
> On May 1, 11:19 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 40 lines snipped |=---]
>>
>> Some crops I tried: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
>>
>> What do you think of the edit?  Ok?  Change anything?
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry Troy, I can't give tips on certain Photoshop techniques, but if
> it's ok with you I'd like to give my opinion.

Always appreciated :)

> This one is the best IMHO: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
> As Wilba said, it has a more intimate feeling to it. Now, I've heard
> you can remove things from a pic in PS. If this is possible, I would
> remove one of the huts in the distance. The one just above her head
> and his eye. It's not really distracting, but if it could be removed
> the pic would be better.

Clone out the huts? They're a feature of Maldives! :)

Just kidding. I can see what you mean, and agree it'd look
better without that one.

> I wouldn't crop the bench out, as it adds to
> the story. It really is a lovely pic. Congrats to your brother and
> new sister-in-law!
> Helen

Thanks very much Helen.

--
Troy Piggins
I always appreciate critique.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

On May 2, 3:12 am, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> * Helen wrote:
> > On May 1, 11:19 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> > [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 40 lines snipped |=---]
>
> >> Some crops I tried: * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG 9434-pano=
.jpg * piggo....
>
> >> What do you think of the edit?  Ok?  Change anything?
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Sorry Troy, I can't give tips on certain Photoshop techniques, but if
> > it's ok with you I'd like to give my opinion.
>
> Always appreciated :)
>
> > This one is the best IMHO:   * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG=
9434-crop2.jpg
> > As Wilba said, it has a more intimate feeling to it.  Now, I've heard
> > you can remove things from a pic in PS.  If this is possible, I would
> > remove one of the huts in the distance.  The one just above her head
> > and his eye.  It's not really distracting, but if it could be removed
> > the pic would be better.
>
> Clone out the huts?  They're a feature of Maldives!  :)
>
> Just kidding.  I can see what you mean, and agree it'd look
> better without that one.
>
> > I wouldn't crop the bench out, as it adds to
> > the story.  It really is a lovely pic.  Congrats to your brother and=

> > new sister-in-law!
> > Helen
>
> Thanks very much Helen.
>
> --
> Troy Piggins
> I always appreciate critique.


That's what it's called, cloning. No not all of them! That's a great
feature. Just the one, but like I said, it's not distracting. I just
thought it would look better without it near your brother's face.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

* Helen wrote:
> On May 2, 3:12 am, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 27 lines snipped |=---]
>> > I wouldn't crop the bench out, as it adds to
>> > the story.  It really is a lovely pic.  Congrats to your brother and
>> > new sister-in-law!
>> > Helen
>>
>> Thanks very much Helen.

If I had my way I'd plonk a hut right on my brother's face :)
Jokes... I'm so funny.

--
Troy Piggins
I always appreciate critique.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

On May 2, 7:07 am, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> * Helen wrote:
> > On May 2, 3:12 am, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo . com > wrote:
> > [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 27 lines snipped |=---]
> >> > I wouldn't crop the bench out, as it adds to
> >> > the story.  It really is a lovely pic.  Congrats to your brother =
and
> >> > new sister-in-law!
> >> > Helen
>
> >> Thanks very much Helen.
>
> If I had my way I'd plonk a hut right on my brother's face :)
> Jokes... I'm so funny.
>
> --
> Troy Piggins
> I always appreciate critique.


LOL! Hey, don't feel bad! There are many times I feel like doing the
same thing to my big brother!

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas


"Troy Piggins" <usenet-0805@piggo . com > wrote in message
news:20080502130148.730@usenet.piggo . com ...
>* Paul Furman wrote:
>>
>> Troy Piggins wrote:
>>> My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
>>> honeymoon recently. He really likes it and is intending to get
>>> it enlarged and printed on canvas or something. I really like it
>>> too, it's pretty bloody good.
>>>
>>> I've had a bit of an edit of it. It's 3504x2336px full size, the
>>> crops are smaller obviously.
>>>
>>> I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
>>> can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
>>> much quality.
>>>
>>> But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
>>> wide or something. I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Will it?
>>>
>>> If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
>>> doesn't print pixelated? Maybe blur it slightly to take out
>>> pixelation?
>>>
>>> What max size would you recommend? I think he just intends
>>> hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)
>>>
>>> Any other recommendations?
>>
>> Did you have a link?
>> :-)
>
> To the photo? Thought about that after I sent the other one. I
> won't post the full sized ones, but here's some reduced for web
> ones.
>
> Here's the original he sent me:
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG
>
> My edit:
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-full.jpg
>
> Some crops I tried:
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
>
> What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?
>
> --
> Troy Piggins
> I always appreciate critique.

I suppose you could try enlarging a small cropped part of the image and
printing it out yourself to see what effect it may have.

I'm no expert , but I might be inclined to do something with the sky, not
sure what though, maybe increase the contrast slightly and give it a slight
blue cast.

Great pic and should look good on a canvas :)


--
Robert

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

* RobertJM wrote:
>
> "Troy Piggins" <usenet-0805@piggo . com > wrote in message
> news:20080502130148.730@usenet.piggo . com ...
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 43 lines snipped |=---]
>> Some crops I tried:
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
>> * piggo . com /~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
>>
>> What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?
>
> I suppose you could try enlarging a small cropped part of the image and
> printing it out yourself to see what effect it may have.
>
> I'm no expert , but I might be inclined to do something with the sky, not
> sure what though, maybe increase the contrast slightly and give it a slight
> blue cast.
>
> Great pic and should look good on a canvas :)

Yeah, shame about the clouds. Thanks for the feedback.

--
Troy Piggins
I always appreciate critique.

Re: need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas


"Troy Piggins" <usenet-0805@piggo . com > wrote in message
news:20080502114110.576@usenet.piggo . com ...
> My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
> honeymoon recently. He really likes it and is intending to get
> it enlarged and printed on canvas or something. I really like it
> too, it's pretty bloody good.
>
> I've had a bit of an edit of it. It's 3504x2336px full size, the
> crops are smaller obviously.
>
> I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
> can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
> much quality.
>
> But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
> wide or something. I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
> something.
>
> Will it?
>
> If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
> doesn't print pixelated? Maybe blur it slightly to take out
> pixelation?
>
> What max size would you recommend? I think he just intends
> hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> --
> Troy Piggins
> I always appreciate critique.

If the pictures are good you have more than enough pixels. I have made some
really good 30"X40" prints on canvas for 4MP files from a Cannon 410 elf.
(all I had available at the moment)

First you need good pictures. Then clean them up using a good photo editor
(Photoshop Elements or CS3 recommended).

When you are happy with the print send email them to a firm like EZPrints
* ezprints.mye-pix . com /ezdirect/products.asp
Remember canvas works best with large objects and bold colors.
Also, don't worry too much about grain, large prints are meant to be viewed
from some distance.