Ansel Adams - Yosemite

A good article with some phots:
http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/travel/27journeys.html?hp

I'll be in Yosemite for 4 days this summer, though mostly not where AA
trekked.

Cheers,
Alan.

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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote in message
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>
> A good article with some phots:
> http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/travel/27journeys.html?hp
>
> I'll be in Yosemite for 4 days this summer, though mostly not where AA
> trekked.

AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!

"Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
> AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!

Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
is not photogenic."

From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...

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"Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote in message
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> "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
>> AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!
>
> Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
> is not photogenic."
>
> From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
> mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
> tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
> 2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...

I think you are right. I was wrong.

"Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote in message
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>
> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote in message
> news:xaudnanu2_5qPI7VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
>>> AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!
>>
>> Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
>> is not photogenic."
>>
>> From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
>> mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
>> tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
>> 2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...
>
> I think you are right. I was wrong.
>
Clearly neither of you has read *California and the West* by Charis Wilson,
E. Weston's model, lover, wife, and ex-wife. Most folks - me included -
would not think of Lake Ediza even today as being with 50 feet from the
road. May I respectully suggest that you both read this book and then - and
only then - return to the subject at hand.

"Lawrence Akutagawa" <lakuNOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Clearly neither of you has read *California and the West* by Charis
> Wilson, E. Weston's model, lover, wife, and ex-wife. Most folks - me
> included - would not think of Lake Ediza even today as being with 50 feet
> from the road. May I respectully suggest that you both read this book and
> then - and only then - return to the subject at hand.

I'll Google Earth it. May I respectULLY suggest you suck an egg?

"Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote in message
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> "Lawrence Akutagawa" <lakuNOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:QhTQj.23156$%41.11331@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>> Clearly neither of you has read *California and the West* by Charis
>> Wilson, E. Weston's model, lover, wife, and ex-wife. Most folks - me
>> included - would not think of Lake Ediza even today as being with 50 feet
>> from the road. May I respectully suggest that you both read this book
>> and then - and only then - return to the subject at hand.
>
> I'll Google Earth it. May I respectULLY suggest you suck an egg?
sure, I will...if that gets you reading *California and the West* so that
you can thereby gain a better appreciation of both Adams and Weston than you
obviously currently have, you having made the statements you have.

In article <xaudnanu2_5qPI7VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote:

> "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
> > AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!
>
> Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
> is not photogenic."
>
> From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
> mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
> tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
> 2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...

Brett Weston.

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____ wrote:
> In article <xaudnanu2_5qPI7VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote:
>
>> "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
>>> AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!
>> Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
>> is not photogenic."
>>
>> From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
>> mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
>> tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
>> 2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...
>
> Brett Weston.
>
"Anything more than 50ft from the road
> is not photogenic."

Glad to see someone give credit to the correct Weston. I've pretty much
lived (photographed) by his credo since my 8x10 days. At my current age
and health I still adhere to it with my current DSLR "stuff".

Best,
Dave

On 4/28/2008 10:48 AM Dave spake thus:

> ____ wrote:
>
>> In article <xaudnanu2_5qPI7VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
>>>
>>>> AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!
>>> Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
>>> is not photogenic."
>>>
>>> From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
>>> mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
>>> tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
>>> 2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...
>>
>> Brett Weston.
>>
>> "Anything more than 50ft from the road is not photogenic."
>
> Glad to see someone give credit to the correct Weston. I've pretty much
> lived (photographed) by his credo since my 8x10 days. At my current age
> and health I still adhere to it with my current DSLR "stuff".

Which of course doesn't make his (Weston's) assertion any less absurd. I
suppose in his case the only excuse one could make is that he was always
able to find photogenic stuff that close to the road.

I've stood in the very place where AA planted his tripod here in the
Berkeley hills (for his shots of UC Berkeley looking over the bay), and
believe me, it's a hell of a lot more than 50 feet from any road.


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David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 4/28/2008 10:48 AM Dave spake thus:
>
>> ____ wrote:
> >
>>> In article <xaudnanu2_5qPI7VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>>> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote
> >>>
>>>>> AA didn't trek far from the roads the roads. Enjoy!
>>>> Wasn't that EW(?): "Anything more than 50ft from the road
>>>> is not photogenic."
>>>>
>>>> From what I read, AA scrambled all over the place -
>>>> mule in tow. Mule packing camera, glass plates,
>>>> tripod, iron fry pan, 30 lb canvas tent, 20 lb axe,
>>>> 2 dozen eggs, 5 lb bacon, sack of flour, sack of potatoes ...
>>>
>>> Brett Weston.
>>>
>>> "Anything more than 50ft from the road is not photogenic."
>>
>> Glad to see someone give credit to the correct Weston. I've pretty
>> much lived (photographed) by his credo since my 8x10 days. At my
>> current age and health I still adhere to it with my current DSLR "stuff".
>
> Which of course doesn't make his (Weston's) assertion any less absurd. I
> suppose in his case the only excuse one could make is that he was always
> able to find photogenic stuff that close to the road.
>
> I've stood in the very place where AA planted his tripod here in the
> Berkeley hills (for his shots of UC Berkeley looking over the bay), and
> believe me, it's a hell of a lot more than 50 feet from any road.
>
>
Adams was part mountain goat in his younger years. Scared the cr*p out
of friends and family.

I envy you your Berkley location. (Born in Oakland BTW) It is kind of a
long schlep from NY though. =;~)

Brett W shot virtually all his stuff using an 11x14 camera. I think
carrying that and needed accessories is above and beyond.

Of course he (and I) was (are) seeking photogenic subjects which are
easily accessible. DUH

Best,
Dave

PS - Spent over 2 years shooting from bedroom window due to health.
Restrictive? Yes, but what I could handle. Made a lot of pretty good
bird pictures. To each his own.

PPS - Curious. Did you take a large format set up with you to the Adams
location?

On 4/29/2008 10:19 AM Dave spake thus:

> I envy you your Berkley location. (Born in Oakland BTW)

That's where I am now. I get to watch all the photogenic industrial
stuff disappear, to be replaced by new-age yuppie crap.

> PPS - Curious. Did you take a large format set up with you to the Adams
> location?

No, sorry to say I only brought one of them newfangled "miniature"
cameras, 35mm or some such. Will schlep a *real* camera there someday ...


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"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
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> No, sorry to say I only brought one of them newfangled "miniature"
> cameras, 35mm or some such.

Oh those little things? What are they called, Leekers, something like that?

> Will schlep a *real* camera there someday ...

With the way things are going you will have to get a permit, maybe be
frisked by a grumpy and ignorant federal security agent, and maybe still pay
a fee. Ya gotta look nonprofessional. Maybe a cell-phone camera, eh?

Or I can point to some stealth pinhole cameras including the Mouth Camera
and believe it or not, the Asshole Camera. See, the human body has only two
voluntary adjustable exterior apertures. OK, some will argue three.

Dave wrote:

> PS - Spent over 2 years shooting from bedroom window due to health.
> Restrictive? Yes, but what I could handle. Made a lot of pretty good bird
> pictures. To each his own.
>
Did not Jimmy Stewart do that in "Rear Window"?

And in the world of reality, did not W. Eugene Smith do the same thing in NYC?

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Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>
>> PS - Spent over 2 years shooting from bedroom window due to health.
>> Restrictive? Yes, but what I could handle. Made a lot of pretty good bird
>> pictures. To each his own.
>>
> Did not Jimmy Stewart do that in "Rear Window"?
>
> And in the world of reality, did not W. Eugene Smith do the same thing in NYC?
>
Yes, but Stewart was shooting Raymond Burr whom he suspected of having
murdered his (Burr's) wife. I only shot birds and squirrels. Not nearly
as exciting.

As for reality, I thought (think) that it was Alfred Stieglitz who shot
NYC streets from his window, but I certainly could be mistaken. (Being
one, I'm also a fan of Smith's work.)

Best,
Dave