Developer 911 in 714

Developer 911 in 714

hi,

i have two rolls of 120 i need to develop tonight, but didn't get to the
store intime to get any new developer! i forgot that my batch of d76 has
gone bad. i also have an old bottle of hc-110, but the stuff has turned
pretty red. i do have some s sulfite, but don't know if that would help the
hc-110.

if anyone lives in north oc, and has a small amount of either hc-110, or
d-76 (i develop 1:1) that i could buy from them tonight, i'd really
appreciate it. bad planning and too much time on the shoot did me in, so i
am at the mercy of any kind souls.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

In article <45fde744$0$24760$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >, joe mama
<dmoss74@hotmail . com > wrote:

> i have two rolls of 120 i need to develop tonight, but didn't get to the
> store intime to get any new developer! i forgot that my batch of d76 has
> gone bad. i also have an old bottle of hc-110, but the stuff has turned
> pretty red. i do have some s sulfite, but don't know if that would help the
> hc-110.
>
> if anyone lives in north oc, and has a small amount of either hc-110, or
> d-76 (i develop 1:1) that i could buy from them tonight, i'd really
> appreciate it. bad planning and too much time on the shoot did me in, so i
> am at the mercy of any kind souls.

Why would you want to use HC-110? That crap is like battery acid to
film.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

Randall Ainsworth wrote:

> Why would you want to use HC-110? That crap is like battery acid to
> film.


Availability. In some places it's almost impossible to get anything else.
Almost all developers are no longer allowed to be shipped by air, so you
have a choice of getting something that someone else already brought in,
or wait 2-3 months while it sits in an unheated/uncooled hold of a ship.

I've only used a little of it, but Michael Covington has a good web page
on it and how to use it in dilute form. There are some dilutions that
are equivalent to D-76, and others that are even better.

If your only choices are HC-110 with some creative dilution, a C-41
(chromogenic) film, or digital photographs converted to black and white
in photoshop, your appreciation might change.

Mine did.

Geoff.


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Re: Developer 911 in 714

I'd like to thank both of you for posting the most ridiculous responses to a
specific question I have ever dealt with in usenet. Your help was
appreciated.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

In article <45fe8b49$0$28152$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >, joe mama
<dmoss74@hotmail . com > wrote:

> I'd like to thank both of you for posting the most ridiculous responses to a
> specific question I have ever dealt with in usenet. Your help was
> appreciated.

You've obviously never used HC-110.

Re: Developer 911 in 714


"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline . com > wrote in message
news:190320071850212161%rag@nospam.techline . com ...
> In article <45fe8b49$0$28152$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >, joe mama
> <dmoss74@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>> I'd like to thank both of you for posting the most ridiculous responses
>> to a
>> specific question I have ever dealt with in usenet. Your help was
>> appreciated.
>
> You've obviously never used HC-110.

even as trolls go, you are incredibly weak.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

In article <46003426$0$5221$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >, joe mama
<dmoss74@hotmail . com > wrote:

> even as trolls go, you are incredibly weak.

I'm not a troll, and you've obviously never used HC-110.

Re: Developer 911 in 714


"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline . com > wrote in message
news:200320071838332931%rag@nospam.techline . com ...
> In article <46003426$0$5221$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >, joe mama
> <dmoss74@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>> even as trolls go, you are incredibly weak.
>
> I'm not a troll, and you've obviously never used HC-110.

news flash to the idiot...i have used hc-110 hundreds of times, with nothing
but spectacular results. i am not alone, and therefor you can go bacck under
the bridge. i don't understand why i am still entertaining a dialogue with a
moron.

have a nice life, and i'll assume you don't use hc-110 any more; unless you
need to recore a battery.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

In article <46009da3$0$4937$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >, joe mama
<dmoss74@hotmail . com > wrote:

> news flash to the idiot...i have used hc-110 hundreds of times, with nothing
> but spectacular results. i am not alone, and therefor you can go bacck under
> the bridge. i don't understand why i am still entertaining a dialogue with a
> moron.

One man's ceiling is another man's floor.

> have a nice life, and i'll assume you don't use hc-110 any more; unless you
> need to recore a battery.

Back in my film days I only used it a couple of times because it was so
bad. D-76 1:1 was the order of the day until T-Max came out and I
switched to T-Max developer.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

In article <slrnevt132.rc0.gsm@cable.mendelson . com >,
Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson . com > wrote:
>
>I've only used a little of it, but Michael Covington has a good web page
>on it and how to use it in dilute form. There are some dilutions that
>are equivalent to D-76, and others that are even better.

HC-110 is a very different developer formula and you will not find a
dilution that is "equivalent to" D-76, though perhaps you may find one
that gives similar times and temperatures.

One problem you won't easily overcome with HC-110 is that it reduces
the native speed of the film somewhat, so if you want to be able to
have the choice of developing your film in D-76 or HC-110 depending on
availability, you will have to down-rate its speed and accept some
amount of additional density when developing in D-76.

On the other hand, it also keeps pretty much forever. Even after it
starts to change color its properties as a developer take a very, very
long time to degrade. I bet the bottle the original poster is worried
about is actually okay.

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at once." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau, On The Social Contract

Re: Developer 911 in 714

In article <slrnevt132.rc0.gsm@cable.mendelson . com >, Geoffrey S.
Mendelson <gsm@mendelson . com > wrote:

> If your only choices are HC-110 with some creative dilution, a C-41
> (chromogenic) film, or digital photographs converted to black and white
> in photoshop, your appreciation might change.

I went digital a few years back, so my darkroom days are over. I spent
enough time in there (former professional). But if you like golf ball
sized grain, HC-110 will do the trick.

Re: Developer 911 in 714

Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <slrnevt132.rc0.gsm@cable.mendelson . com >, Geoffrey S.
> Mendelson <gsm@mendelson . com > wrote:
>
>> If your only choices are HC-110 with some creative dilution, a C-41
>> (chromogenic) film, or digital photographs converted to black and white
>> in photoshop, your appreciation might change.
>
> I went digital a few years back, so my darkroom days are over. I spent
> enough time in there (former professional). But if you like golf ball
> sized grain, HC-110 will do the trick.

If I wanted golf-ball grain (and I do not, but I have a friend who does),
Rodinal is probably the way to go. Or shoot very small negatives and enlarge
a lot.

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Re: Developer 911 in 714

Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> If I wanted golf-ball grain (and I do not, but I have a friend who does),
> Rodinal is probably the way to go. Or shoot very small negatives and enlarge
> a lot.

Rodinal was on it's way out HERE long before Agfa went out of business.


I doubt there is any of the new stuff in the country. The last bottle
of HC-110 was sold with an implication that it was the last that store
would carry and they are the largest in the country.

Geoff.


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Re: Developer 911 in 714


"Jean-David Beyer" <jeandavid8@verizon . net > wrote in message
news:oubMh.17270$O_5.2796@trnddc03...
>
> If I wanted golf-ball grain (and I do not, but I have a friend who does),
> Rodinal is probably the way to go. Or shoot very small negatives and
enlarge
> a lot.
> .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
> /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey * counter.li.org
> ^^-^^ 10:40:01 up 32 days, 22:05, 3 users, load average: 4.32, 4.16, 4.12
What I don't understand is why so many people get big grain. Does everybody
push everything or just leave it in too long. My usual is HP-5 in Rodinal,
but I've had good results w/ Tri-X and HC-110, and I don't get much grain at
all; as a matter of fact, I like the 20-30 old Tri-X grain much better.
Actually, I don't care for any of the "fine grain" developers I've tried.
Looks mushy or soft somehow.
Bob Hickey

Re: Developer 911 in 714


"bob hickey" <hickster711@verizon . net > wrote:

> What I don't understand is why so many people get big grain. Does
> everybody
> push everything or just leave it in too long.

Nah. I think it's the definition of the terms. Here, anything grainier than
TMX100 in 6x7 is "golf ball" territory.

I've see page after page of disgustingly grainy at 5x7 35mm work in the (now
defunct?) Japanese B&W magazine (Natural Glow; it used to be fun when they
had fewer Leica shots) and grainy 600 x 800 images on the web.

Those guys seem to think that every surface having exactly the same texture
is interesting. In real life, the textures are different...

David J. Littleboy
Who doesn't "get" 35mm. At all.
Tokyo, Japan