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Adams, K-factor & middle gray redux
Adams, K-factor & middle gray redux
I axed* a question in the thread above that wasn't answered, so hoping
to get a response here.
Since the crux of this whole discussion is a difference of a whole *one
third of a stop*, my question was, and is, isn't this too
inconsequential to even merit discussion, since we're talking about
black & white negative materials here? Seems to me that a third of a
stop difference, no matter what direction, is basically lost in the
noise, and certainly more than adequately covered by the latitude of
film. No?
* That's how my homies talk. Sorry.
--
I hope that in a few years it [Wikipedia] will be so bloated that it
will simply disintegrate, because I can't stand the thought that this
thing might someday actually be used as a serious reference source.
Because in its current form, it's not to be taken seriously at all.
- Horst Prillinger (see
* homepage.univie.ac.at/horst.prillinger/blog/archives/2004/06/000623.html)
I axed* a question in the thread above that wasn't answered, so hoping
to get a response here.
Since the crux of this whole discussion is a difference of a whole *one
third of a stop*, my question was, and is, isn't this too
inconsequential to even merit discussion, since we're talking about
black & white negative materials here? Seems to me that a third of a
stop difference, no matter what direction, is basically lost in the
noise, and certainly more than adequately covered by the latitude of
film. No?
* That's how my homies talk. Sorry.
--
I hope that in a few years it [Wikipedia] will be so bloated that it
will simply disintegrate, because I can't stand the thought that this
thing might someday actually be used as a serious reference source.
Because in its current form, it's not to be taken seriously at all.
- Horst Prillinger (see
* homepage.univie.ac.at/horst.prillinger/blog/archives/2004/06/000623.html)
Re: Adams, K-factor & middle gray redux
David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> writes:
> I axed* a question in the thread above that wasn't answered, so
> hoping to get a response here.
> Since the crux of this whole discussion is a difference of a whole
> *one third of a stop*, my question was, and is, isn't this too
> inconsequential to even merit discussion, since we're talking about
> black & white negative materials here? Seems to me that a third of a
> stop difference, no matter what direction, is basically lost in the
> noise, and certainly more than adequately covered by the latitude of
> film. No?
As the person who started the thread, I have the following comment:
The question I posted was not about B&W film and it was not about
1/3 of a stop.
The question was about the statement about the K factor that appears
on pp. 42f in Ansel Adams book "The Negative (1981/2002 edition).
In particular: The question was about whether this statement was
correct or incorrect.
As happens on Usenet, very few was interested in this particular
question, so the discussion rapidly morphed into a number of other
discussions, ranging from general criticism of Ansel Adams, to a
diatribe against Wikipedia.
As for the question you pose: Does 1/3 of a stop matter? Yes, for me,
it does. This is of course highly subjective. I see no point in
discussing it. You may have a totally different approach to exposure,
and that's fine and dandy. I am not saying my way (fussing about
1/3 stop) is the best way, only that it is my way.
(I posted the question to the large format group in the hope that the
people active in the LF group was more familiar with the theory
behind Zone System than the people in the other photographic groups
on Usenet.)
--
- gisle hannemyr [ gisle{at}hannemyr.no - * hannemyr . com /photo/ ]
David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> writes:
> I axed* a question in the thread above that wasn't answered, so
> hoping to get a response here.
> Since the crux of this whole discussion is a difference of a whole
> *one third of a stop*, my question was, and is, isn't this too
> inconsequential to even merit discussion, since we're talking about
> black & white negative materials here? Seems to me that a third of a
> stop difference, no matter what direction, is basically lost in the
> noise, and certainly more than adequately covered by the latitude of
> film. No?
As the person who started the thread, I have the following comment:
The question I posted was not about B&W film and it was not about
1/3 of a stop.
The question was about the statement about the K factor that appears
on pp. 42f in Ansel Adams book "The Negative (1981/2002 edition).
In particular: The question was about whether this statement was
correct or incorrect.
As happens on Usenet, very few was interested in this particular
question, so the discussion rapidly morphed into a number of other
discussions, ranging from general criticism of Ansel Adams, to a
diatribe against Wikipedia.
As for the question you pose: Does 1/3 of a stop matter? Yes, for me,
it does. This is of course highly subjective. I see no point in
discussing it. You may have a totally different approach to exposure,
and that's fine and dandy. I am not saying my way (fussing about
1/3 stop) is the best way, only that it is my way.
(I posted the question to the large format group in the hope that the
people active in the LF group was more familiar with the theory
behind Zone System than the people in the other photographic groups
on Usenet.)
--
- gisle hannemyr [ gisle{at}hannemyr.no - * hannemyr . com /photo/ ]
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