WTB Calumet back springs

WTB Calumet back springs

Hi all !
I'm looking for Calumet C400 ( old gray one ) back springs. Mine are hand
made by someone and it's a pain to open and close.
Thanks,

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Igor
* w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop

Re: WTB Calumet back springs


"iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
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> Hi all !
> I'm looking for Calumet C400 ( old gray one ) back
> springs. Mine are hand
> made by someone and it's a pain to open and close.
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Igor
> * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
>
If you haven't contacted Calumet do so. They had a large
supply of parts for these cameras up to a couple of years
ago and may still have them. There should be a bail on the
back to help open and close the panel, is it missing on
yours?


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@ix . net com . com

Re: WTB Calumet back springs

Thanks Richard, I've send them e-mail today.
Bail is here, but springs are made from saw blade and out of center. So I
must to adjust the GG frame by hand every time to get it in place.
One friend offers 5x7 back to me ( not sure what camera ), so I got insane
idea about building wooden back frame to fit it at C400... Biggest problem
is that bellows has only 180x180mm opening at back.
Thanks,

--
Igor
* w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop



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> "iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
> news:f6gmcn$7sq$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
> > Hi all !
> > I'm looking for Calumet C400 ( old gray one ) back
> > springs. Mine are hand
> > made by someone and it's a pain to open and close.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Igor
> > * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
> >
> If you haven't contacted Calumet do so. They had a large
> supply of parts for these cameras up to a couple of years
> ago and may still have them. There should be a bail on the
> back to help open and close the panel, is it missing on
> yours?
>
>
> --
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@ix . net com . com
>
>
>

Re: WTB Calumet back springs


"iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
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> Thanks Richard, I've send them e-mail today.
> Bail is here, but springs are made from saw blade and out
> of center. So I
> must to adjust the GG frame by hand every time to get it
> in place.
> One friend offers 5x7 back to me ( not sure what camera ),
> so I got insane
> idea about building wooden back frame to fit it at C400...
> Biggest problem
> is that bellows has only 180x180mm opening at back.
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Igor
> * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
>
Snipping...
Lets see if Calumet can help. If not, these are very
common cameras plus the back was also used on the 8x10 model
so its possible you may be able to find an entire back. The
CC-400 began as a Kodak camera and was an economically
priced workhorse. They are actually very good cameras. I
have one which I got at a sale many years ago with the
original case. Some newer cameras are more versitile
(interchangable bellows, etc) but the CC-400 will do most
view camera jobs and is a good sturdy machine.
At some point Burke & James also made this camera, which
they sold under the Orbit name. I've once seen a 5x7
version. Kodak also sold a version in England as the
Specialist in a European size.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@ix . net com . com

Re: WTB Calumet back springs

Thanks, Richard !
Yes, I agree that Calumet is great camera and I hope to find springs soon.
As for 5x7 - it is really rare bird here ( and expensive ). The only way is
to buy in States, but shipping cost is high. Well, I bought my dry mount
press in USA for $90, paid $100 for shipping and I'm really happy because
the cheapiest press I could buy here was 900 Euro.
But as for camera - I still think to rebuild back standard of Calumet to
5x7... And I have an old Fuji w 150mm wich covers 5x7.. Well, temptation..


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Igor
* w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop



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> "iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
> news:f6iaot$dbf$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
> > Thanks Richard, I've send them e-mail today.
> > Bail is here, but springs are made from saw blade and out
> > of center. So I
> > must to adjust the GG frame by hand every time to get it
> > in place.
> > One friend offers 5x7 back to me ( not sure what camera ),
> > so I got insane
> > idea about building wooden back frame to fit it at C400...
> > Biggest problem
> > is that bellows has only 180x180mm opening at back.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Igor
> > * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
> >
> Snipping...
> Lets see if Calumet can help. If not, these are very
> common cameras plus the back was also used on the 8x10 model
> so its possible you may be able to find an entire back. The
> CC-400 began as a Kodak camera and was an economically
> priced workhorse. They are actually very good cameras. I
> have one which I got at a sale many years ago with the
> original case. Some newer cameras are more versitile
> (interchangable bellows, etc) but the CC-400 will do most
> view camera jobs and is a good sturdy machine.
> At some point Burke & James also made this camera, which
> they sold under the Orbit name. I've once seen a 5x7
> version. Kodak also sold a version in England as the
> Specialist in a European size.
>
>
> --
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@ix . net com . com
>
>
>
>

Re: WTB Calumet back springs


"iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
news:f6jnn8$37i$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
> Thanks, Richard !
> Yes, I agree that Calumet is great camera and I hope to
> find springs soon.
> As for 5x7 - it is really rare bird here ( and
> expensive ). The only way is
> to buy in States, but shipping cost is high. Well, I
> bought my dry mount
> press in USA for $90, paid $100 for shipping and I'm
> really happy because
> the cheapiest press I could buy here was 900 Euro.
> But as for camera - I still think to rebuild back standard
> of Calumet to
> 5x7... And I have an old Fuji w 150mm wich covers 5x7..
> Well, temptation..
>
>
> --
> Igor
> * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
>

I don't think the back will clear 5x7 but I would have
to dig out the camera and measure it. I have two cameras
which will take 5x7 film both old Agfa/Ansco cameras. One
was made for 5x7 but also sold as a "deluxe" 4x5 model with
reducing back, I have both backs. The other is an 8x10 for
which I also have a reducing back. Using a reducing back on
a camera can sometimes be advantageous because you can use
longer lenses on it. 5x7 is a very nice size but has become
almost completely orphaned. Its still possible to get 5x7
film from Freestyle in Los Angeles, and a couple of
specialty houses who cut down film from larger sizes.
Hopefully, you will be able to get the necessary parts
for your camera but I would look for another for 5x7.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@ix . net com . com

Re: WTB Calumet back springs

Thank yoy very much, Richard !
Could you please list less known old 5x7 cameras ?
Thanks,
Igor
* w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop


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> "iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
> news:f6jnn8$37i$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
> > Thanks, Richard !
> > Yes, I agree that Calumet is great camera and I hope to
> > find springs soon.
> > As for 5x7 - it is really rare bird here ( and
> > expensive ). The only way is
> > to buy in States, but shipping cost is high. Well, I
> > bought my dry mount
> > press in USA for $90, paid $100 for shipping and I'm
> > really happy because
> > the cheapiest press I could buy here was 900 Euro.
> > But as for camera - I still think to rebuild back standard
> > of Calumet to
> > 5x7... And I have an old Fuji w 150mm wich covers 5x7..
> > Well, temptation..
> >
> >
> > --
> > Igor
> > * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
> >
>
> I don't think the back will clear 5x7 but I would have
> to dig out the camera and measure it. I have two cameras
> which will take 5x7 film both old Agfa/Ansco cameras. One
> was made for 5x7 but also sold as a "deluxe" 4x5 model with
> reducing back, I have both backs. The other is an 8x10 for
> which I also have a reducing back. Using a reducing back on
> a camera can sometimes be advantageous because you can use
> longer lenses on it. 5x7 is a very nice size but has become
> almost completely orphaned. Its still possible to get 5x7
> film from Freestyle in Los Angeles, and a couple of
> specialty houses who cut down film from larger sizes.
> Hopefully, you will be able to get the necessary parts
> for your camera but I would look for another for 5x7.
>
>
> --
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@ix . net com . com
>
>

Re: WTB Calumet back springs


"iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
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> Thank yoy very much, Richard !
> Could you please list less known old 5x7 cameras ?
> Thanks,
> Igor
> * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
>

Boy, I don't know where to start. 5x7 was a widely used
size up to maybe 25 years ago. Most of the view camera
makers made cameras in this size and all provided reducing
backs for larger cameras. Names which come to mind
immediately are:
Agfa/Ansco Universal View (in 5x7) and reducing back for the
8x10 Commercial View
Kodak 2D, made in several sizes with reducing backs for the
larger ones.
Korona
Deardorf
I think Linhof made a 5x7 and had reducing backs.
Calumet reducing back for the 8x10 C-2
Speed Graphic and Graflex SLR until about 1940.
I am pretty sure Sinar made a 5x7 version.
Probably some English and continental camera makers. 5x7 is
very nearly "full plate" size. Such sizes and metric sizes
were popular and 5x7 was close enough to allow its used with
relatively minor modifications to the dimensions of the
back.
I am sure others following this group can add makes of
cameras I've forgotten.
Curiously enough 5x7 was really considered medium format
at one time, large format meant 8x10, 11x14, and even 16x20
cameras. Up to at least the 1950's a surprizing amount of
advertising and commercial work was done with 11x14 cameras.
These are now in demand by photographers doing fine art
photography for printing on alternative printing processes.
Film improved so much that the detail and grain of a
negative now is probably comparable to one perhaps of four
times the area or even more when compared to the films of
the 1950's. So, 5x7 was essentially replaced by 4x5.
The CC-400 was so widely used that it should be possible
to find parts for it even if Calumet can't help.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@ix . net com . com

Re: WTB Calumet back springs

Thanks Richard !
I've received e-mail from Calumet - they have springs in stock for $6.99
each.
Best regards,

--
Igor
* w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop


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> "iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
> news:f6kub0$75t$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
> > Thank yoy very much, Richard !
> > Could you please list less known old 5x7 cameras ?
> > Thanks,
> > Igor
> > * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
> >
>
> Boy, I don't know where to start. 5x7 was a widely used
> size up to maybe 25 years ago. Most of the view camera
> makers made cameras in this size and all provided reducing
> backs for larger cameras. Names which come to mind
> immediately are:
> Agfa/Ansco Universal View (in 5x7) and reducing back for the
> 8x10 Commercial View
> Kodak 2D, made in several sizes with reducing backs for the
> larger ones.
> Korona
> Deardorf
> I think Linhof made a 5x7 and had reducing backs.
> Calumet reducing back for the 8x10 C-2
> Speed Graphic and Graflex SLR until about 1940.
> I am pretty sure Sinar made a 5x7 version.
> Probably some English and continental camera makers. 5x7 is
> very nearly "full plate" size. Such sizes and metric sizes
> were popular and 5x7 was close enough to allow its used with
> relatively minor modifications to the dimensions of the
> back.
> I am sure others following this group can add makes of
> cameras I've forgotten.
> Curiously enough 5x7 was really considered medium format
> at one time, large format meant 8x10, 11x14, and even 16x20
> cameras. Up to at least the 1950's a surprizing amount of
> advertising and commercial work was done with 11x14 cameras.
> These are now in demand by photographers doing fine art
> photography for printing on alternative printing processes.
> Film improved so much that the detail and grain of a
> negative now is probably comparable to one perhaps of four
> times the area or even more when compared to the films of
> the 1950's. So, 5x7 was essentially replaced by 4x5.
> The CC-400 was so widely used that it should be possible
> to find parts for it even if Calumet can't help.
>
>
> --
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@ix . net com . com
>
>

Re: WTB Calumet back springs


"iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
news:f6me36$7n3$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
> Thanks Richard !
> I've received e-mail from Calumet - they have springs in
> stock for $6.99
> each.
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Igor
> * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
>
Good deal!


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@ix . net com . com

Re: WTB Calumet back springs

Burke and James Grover (flat bed) and Saturn (hex monorail)
5x7 models.
darkroommike

Richard Knoppow wrote:
> "iga" <igapop@arrakis . es > wrote in message
> news:f6kub0$75t$1@nsnmpen2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data . net ...
>> Thank yoy very much, Richard !
>> Could you please list less known old 5x7 cameras ?
>> Thanks,
>> Igor
>> * w w w .arrakis . es /~igapop
>>
>
> Boy, I don't know where to start. 5x7 was a widely used
> size up to maybe 25 years ago. Most of the view camera
> makers made cameras in this size and all provided reducing
> backs for larger cameras. Names which come to mind
> immediately are:
> Agfa/Ansco Universal View (in 5x7) and reducing back for the
> 8x10 Commercial View
> Kodak 2D, made in several sizes with reducing backs for the
> larger ones.
> Korona
> Deardorf
> I think Linhof made a 5x7 and had reducing backs.
> Calumet reducing back for the 8x10 C-2
> Speed Graphic and Graflex SLR until about 1940.
> I am pretty sure Sinar made a 5x7 version.
> Probably some English and continental camera makers. 5x7 is
> very nearly "full plate" size. Such sizes and metric sizes
> were popular and 5x7 was close enough to allow its used with
> relatively minor modifications to the dimensions of the
> back.
> I am sure others following this group can add makes of
> cameras I've forgotten.
> Curiously enough 5x7 was really considered medium format
> at one time, large format meant 8x10, 11x14, and even 16x20
> cameras. Up to at least the 1950's a surprizing amount of
> advertising and commercial work was done with 11x14 cameras.
> These are now in demand by photographers doing fine art
> photography for printing on alternative printing processes.
> Film improved so much that the detail and grain of a
> negative now is probably comparable to one perhaps of four
> times the area or even more when compared to the films of
> the 1950's. So, 5x7 was essentially replaced by 4x5.
> The CC-400 was so widely used that it should be possible
> to find parts for it even if Calumet can't help.
>
>

Re: WTB Calumet back springs


"darkroommike" <darkroommike@cableone . net > wrote in message
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> Burke and James Grover (flat bed) and Saturn (hex
> monorail) 5x7 models.
> darkroommike
>
I had forgotten these I think B&J also made a monorail
Grover camera in several sizes.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@ix . net com . com

Re: WTB Calumet back springs

On Jul 17, 7:58 am, "Richard Knoppow" <dickb...@ix . net com . com >
wrote:...
> I had forgotten these I think B&J also made a monorail
> Grover camera in several sizes....

Yes they did. They are hex monorails with mahagony boxes. Hardware was
steel and later aluminum. I have two around for a rainy day...need
bellows work...Roger