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120 film developing by mail
120 film developing by mail
I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for 120 processing by
mail? I currently use A&I. They do a good job, but they can be incredibly
slow. I'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anything but 35
mm.
I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for 120 processing by
mail? I currently use A&I. They do a good job, but they can be incredibly
slow. I'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anything but 35
mm.
Re: 120 film developing by mail
rwalker schrieb:
> I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for 120 processing by
> mail? I currently use A&I. They do a good job, but they can be incredibly
> slow. I'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anything but 35
> mm.
Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
It's easy and cheap.
Andreas
--
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rwalker schrieb:
> I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for 120 processing by
> mail? I currently use A&I. They do a good job, but they can be incredibly
> slow. I'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anything but 35
> mm.
Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
It's easy and cheap.
Andreas
--
Viele Menschen verstehen keine Ironie, weil sie mit der kleinen Welt,
in der sie leben, geistig ausgelastet sind. Sie haben keine freie
Gehirnleistung, um sich in die surreale Welt der Ironie zu versetzen.
Schade - der intelligente Humor spielt sich hinterm Tellerrand ab.
Re: 120 film developing by mail
"Andreas Gugau" <news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
news:64fr2gF2bdv8sU1@mid.individual . net ...
snip
>
> Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
> It's easy and cheap.
>
> Andreas
>
> --
I've considered it for black and white. I've heard color is much harder,
which I've never tried.
I should have added, in my original post, that I'm in the U.S. (upstate New
York).
"Andreas Gugau" <news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
news:64fr2gF2bdv8sU1@mid.individual . net ...
snip
>
> Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
> It's easy and cheap.
>
> Andreas
>
> --
I've considered it for black and white. I've heard color is much harder,
which I've never tried.
I should have added, in my original post, that I'm in the U.S. (upstate New
York).
Re: 120 film developing by mail
In article <47e3150b$0$30548$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >,
"rwalker" <rwalker@despammed . com > wrote:
> "Andreas Gugau" <news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
> news:64fr2gF2bdv8sU1@mid.individual . net ...
> snip
> >
> > Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
> > It's easy and cheap.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > --
>
> I've considered it for black and white. I've heard color is much harder,
> which I've never tried.
>
> I should have added, in my original post, that I'm in the U.S. (upstate New
> York).
E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances. And
color printing has to be done in absolute darkness as there is no
safelight for panchromatic papers.
I strongly recommend the book "Color Photography: A Working Manual" by
Henry Horenstein. It gives you a lot of info, especially on what can go
wrong and why.
Unfortunately it is illegal to ship many of the chemicals by common
carrier -- check the B&H website's color chemistry section. Not sure how
to get around that one.
Hope this helps,
--k
In article <47e3150b$0$30548$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >,
"rwalker" <rwalker@despammed . com > wrote:
> "Andreas Gugau" <news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
> news:64fr2gF2bdv8sU1@mid.individual . net ...
> snip
> >
> > Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
> > It's easy and cheap.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > --
>
> I've considered it for black and white. I've heard color is much harder,
> which I've never tried.
>
> I should have added, in my original post, that I'm in the U.S. (upstate New
> York).
E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances. And
color printing has to be done in absolute darkness as there is no
safelight for panchromatic papers.
I strongly recommend the book "Color Photography: A Working Manual" by
Henry Horenstein. It gives you a lot of info, especially on what can go
wrong and why.
Unfortunately it is illegal to ship many of the chemicals by common
carrier -- check the B&H website's color chemistry section. Not sure how
to get around that one.
Hope this helps,
--k
Re: 120 film developing by mail
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0400, krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
> toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances.
You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
easy as black and white.
--
Matthew Winn
[If replying by mail remove the "r" from "urk"]
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0400, krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
> toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances.
You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
easy as black and white.
--
Matthew Winn
[If replying by mail remove the "r" from "urk"]
Re: 120 film developing by mail
Matthew Winn schrieb:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0400, krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
>
>> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
>> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
>> toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances.
>
> You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
> temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
> fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
> easy as black and white.
E6 is same if you use a little processor. For C41 you need developer and
fix for E-6 you need developer, color-developer and fix. One extra
step. And don't worry about temperature in a processor.
andreas
--
Viele Menschen verstehen keine Ironie, weil sie mit der kleinen Welt,
in der sie leben, geistig ausgelastet sind. Sie haben keine freie
Gehirnleistung, um sich in die surreale Welt der Ironie zu versetzen.
Schade - der intelligente Humor spielt sich hinterm Tellerrand ab.
Matthew Winn schrieb:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0400, krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
>
>> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
>> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
>> toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances.
>
> You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
> temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
> fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
> easy as black and white.
E6 is same if you use a little processor. For C41 you need developer and
fix for E-6 you need developer, color-developer and fix. One extra
step. And don't worry about temperature in a processor.
andreas
--
Viele Menschen verstehen keine Ironie, weil sie mit der kleinen Welt,
in der sie leben, geistig ausgelastet sind. Sie haben keine freie
Gehirnleistung, um sich in die surreale Welt der Ironie zu versetzen.
Schade - der intelligente Humor spielt sich hinterm Tellerrand ab.
Re: 120 film developing by mail
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:47:20 +0100, Andreas Gugau
<news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote:
> Matthew Winn schrieb:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0400, krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
> >
> >> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
> >> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
> >> toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances.
> >
> > You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
> > temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
> > fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
> > easy as black and white.
>
> E6 is same if you use a little processor. For C41 you need developer and
> fix for E-6 you need developer, color-developer and fix. One extra
> step. And don't worry about temperature in a processor.
True, but if you don't have a temperature-controlled processor and
are developing in a water bath in the kitchen sink then C41 is far
easier. With E6 the temperature has to be just right; with C41 you
can check the temperature after a couple of minutes and adjust the
time accordingly rather than aiming for a particular temperature at
the start.
--
Matthew Winn
[If replying by mail remove the "r" from "urk"]
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:47:20 +0100, Andreas Gugau
<news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote:
> Matthew Winn schrieb:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0400, krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
> >
> >> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
> >> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
> >> toxicity of the chemicals and the very small temperature tolerances.
> >
> > You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
> > temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
> > fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
> > easy as black and white.
>
> E6 is same if you use a little processor. For C41 you need developer and
> fix for E-6 you need developer, color-developer and fix. One extra
> step. And don't worry about temperature in a processor.
True, but if you don't have a temperature-controlled processor and
are developing in a water bath in the kitchen sink then C41 is far
easier. With E6 the temperature has to be just right; with C41 you
can check the temperature after a couple of minutes and adjust the
time accordingly rather than aiming for a particular temperature at
the start.
--
Matthew Winn
[If replying by mail remove the "r" from "urk"]
Re: 120 film developing by mail
In article <sps6u3hueh83c9orhsncagssjebk76k0ip@4ax . com >, Matthew Winn
<*@matthewwinn.me.urk> wrote:
> You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
> temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
> fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
> easy as black and white.
I printed with RA chemistry for many years, and you can use a
safelight. Granted, a #13 is pretty dim. But once your eyes get used to
it, you can see surprisingly well.
In article <sps6u3hueh83c9orhsncagssjebk76k0ip@4ax . com >, Matthew Winn
<*@matthewwinn.me.urk> wrote:
> You have those the wrong way round. E6 is very intolerant to
> temperature, while C41 has no problem with wide ranges. Apart
> fom the inability to use a safelight when printing, C41 is as
> easy as black and white.
I printed with RA chemistry for many years, and you can use a
safelight. Granted, a #13 is pretty dim. But once your eyes get used to
it, you can see surprisingly well.
Re: 120 film developing by mail
"krishnananda" <not@home . com > wrote in message
news:not-D31B4F.00271621032008@news-server.nyc.rr . com ...
> In article <47e3150b$0$30548$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >,
> "rwalker" <rwalker@despammed . com > wrote:
>
>> "Andreas Gugau" <news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
>> news:64fr2gF2bdv8sU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> snip
>> >
>> > Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about
>> > self-processing?
>> > It's easy and cheap.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> I've considered it for black and white. I've heard color is much harder,
>> which I've never tried.
>>
>> I should have added, in my original post, that I'm in the U.S. (upstate
>> New
>> York).
>
> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
> toxicity of the chemicals and theC-412 very small temperature tolerances.
> And
> color printing has to be done in absolute darkness as there is no
> safelight for panchromatic papers.
>
> I strongly recommend the book "Color Photography: A Working Manual" by
> Henry Horenstein. It gives you a lot of info, especially on what can go
> wrong and why.
>
> Unfortunately it is illegal to ship many of the chemicals by common
> carrier -- check the B&H website's color chemistry section. Not sure how
> to get around that one.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> --k
C-41 Is not hard to process.
all you need:
Large container- I use a Rubbermaid 10w X 14L X 6h with lid (also used to
store everything)
Aquarium heater-submersible 75-100 w rated for a 10 to 20 gal tank
three 1L storage bottles for chemicals
daylight tank, film clips, funnel, graduates for mixing chemicals
I have a 100w heater rated for 20 gal tank and turned all the way on reaches
122deg F.
place the heater in bottom of container,(comes with suction cups) fill 2/3
full and place chemical bottles in and heat to 100deg F.
load film in tank place in water, I use a Peterson tank that hold 2 rolls
35mm or 2 -120 and agitates the reels by turning a rod placed in fill hole
so I don't need to remove the tank until I drain the chemicals back into
their bottle.
Then just scan into your computer and print.
you can get either the tetenal press kit from BH, or Freestyle has a quart
or gal powder kit. just three chems with either way dev, bleach fix,
stabilizer.
Freestyle- * w w w . fr eestylephoto.biz
Robert
"krishnananda" <not@home . com > wrote in message
news:not-D31B4F.00271621032008@news-server.nyc.rr . com ...
> In article <47e3150b$0$30548$4c368faf@roadrunner . com >,
> "rwalker" <rwalker@despammed . com > wrote:
>
>> "Andreas Gugau" <news@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
>> news:64fr2gF2bdv8sU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> snip
>> >
>> > Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about
>> > self-processing?
>> > It's easy and cheap.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> I've considered it for black and white. I've heard color is much harder,
>> which I've never tried.
>>
>> I should have added, in my original post, that I'm in the U.S. (upstate
>> New
>> York).
>
> E6 processing is relatively simple and can be done in small tanks. C41
> shouldn't even be tried without a good processing machine due to the
> toxicity of the chemicals and theC-412 very small temperature tolerances.
> And
> color printing has to be done in absolute darkness as there is no
> safelight for panchromatic papers.
>
> I strongly recommend the book "Color Photography: A Working Manual" by
> Henry Horenstein. It gives you a lot of info, especially on what can go
> wrong and why.
>
> Unfortunately it is illegal to ship many of the chemicals by common
> carrier -- check the B&H website's color chemistry section. Not sure how
> to get around that one.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> --k
C-41 Is not hard to process.
all you need:
Large container- I use a Rubbermaid 10w X 14L X 6h with lid (also used to
store everything)
Aquarium heater-submersible 75-100 w rated for a 10 to 20 gal tank
three 1L storage bottles for chemicals
daylight tank, film clips, funnel, graduates for mixing chemicals
I have a 100w heater rated for 20 gal tank and turned all the way on reaches
122deg F.
place the heater in bottom of container,(comes with suction cups) fill 2/3
full and place chemical bottles in and heat to 100deg F.
load film in tank place in water, I use a Peterson tank that hold 2 rolls
35mm or 2 -120 and agitates the reels by turning a rod placed in fill hole
so I don't need to remove the tank until I drain the chemicals back into
their bottle.
Then just scan into your computer and print.
you can get either the tetenal press kit from BH, or Freestyle has a quart
or gal powder kit. just three chems with either way dev, bleach fix,
stabilizer.
Freestyle- * w w w . fr eestylephoto.biz
Robert
Re: 120 film developing by mail
In article <not-D31B4F.00271621032008@news-server.nyc.rr . com >,
krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
> Unfortunately it is illegal to ship many of the chemicals by common
> carrier -- check the B&H website's color chemistry section. Not sure how
> to get around that one.
Not completely true.
You need to have a resellers certificate & You will pay a ORMD fee for
each package shipped. The company I work for ships chemistry all the
time via UPS & FedeX Ground.
--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
In article <not-D31B4F.00271621032008@news-server.nyc.rr . com >,
krishnananda <not@home . com > wrote:
> Unfortunately it is illegal to ship many of the chemicals by common
> carrier -- check the B&H website's color chemistry section. Not sure how
> to get around that one.
Not completely true.
You need to have a resellers certificate & You will pay a ORMD fee for
each package shipped. The company I work for ships chemistry all the
time via UPS & FedeX Ground.
--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
Re: 120 film developing by mail
Andreas Gugau schrieb:
> rwalker schrieb:
>> I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for 120
>> processing by mail? I currently use A&I. They do a good job, but
>> they can be incredibly slow. I'm in a rural area and no one around
>> here develops anything but 35 mm.
>
> Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
> It's easy and cheap.
If you use a little Jobo-Processor like CPA or something like this, it's
no problem. A used Jobo is not really expencive. And putting chemicals
in and out is easy.
Chemistry: I use this one: * tinyurl . com /2mqdd3 which is enough for
60 up to 80 rols of film if you always use maximum capacity.
Andreas
--
Viele Menschen verstehen keine Ironie, weil sie mit der kleinen Welt,
in der sie leben, geistig ausgelastet sind. Sie haben keine freie
Gehirnleistung, um sich in die surreale Welt der Ironie zu versetzen.
Schade - der intelligente Humor spielt sich hinterm Tellerrand ab.
Andreas Gugau schrieb:
> rwalker schrieb:
>> I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for 120
>> processing by mail? I currently use A&I. They do a good job, but
>> they can be incredibly slow. I'm in a rural area and no one around
>> here develops anything but 35 mm.
>
> Depends on the amount of rolls - but ever thought about self-processing?
> It's easy and cheap.
If you use a little Jobo-Processor like CPA or something like this, it's
no problem. A used Jobo is not really expencive. And putting chemicals
in and out is easy.
Chemistry: I use this one: * tinyurl . com /2mqdd3 which is enough for
60 up to 80 rols of film if you always use maximum capacity.
Andreas
--
Viele Menschen verstehen keine Ironie, weil sie mit der kleinen Welt,
in der sie leben, geistig ausgelastet sind. Sie haben keine freie
Gehirnleistung, um sich in die surreale Welt der Ironie zu versetzen.
Schade - der intelligente Humor spielt sich hinterm Tellerrand ab.
Re: 120 film developing by mail
=EF=BF=BDThey do a good job, but they can be incredibly
> slow. =EF=BF=BDI'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anythin=
g but 35
> mm.
R Walker
H&H Color Lab. Kansas City MO. They have a web site. 1 week service. I
am sure there are more in the NE.
Bob AZ
=EF=BF=BDThey do a good job, but they can be incredibly
> slow. =EF=BF=BDI'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anythin=
g but 35
> mm.
R Walker
H&H Color Lab. Kansas City MO. They have a web site. 1 week service. I
am sure there are more in the NE.
Bob AZ
Re: 120 film developing by mail
"Bob AZ" <rwatson767@aol . com > wrote in message
news:e05bae19-06e1-42c6-8d68-ec94c304d9fc@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
?They do a good job, but they can be incredibly
> slow. ?I'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anything but 35
> mm.
R Walker
H&H Color Lab. Kansas City MO. They have a web site. 1 week service. I
am sure there are more in the NE.
Bob AZ
__________________
Many thanks! I will look into them. A&I are so slow.
"Bob AZ" <rwatson767@aol . com > wrote in message
news:e05bae19-06e1-42c6-8d68-ec94c304d9fc@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
?They do a good job, but they can be incredibly
> slow. ?I'm in a rural area and no one around here develops anything but 35
> mm.
R Walker
H&H Color Lab. Kansas City MO. They have a web site. 1 week service. I
am sure there are more in the NE.
Bob AZ
__________________
Many thanks! I will look into them. A&I are so slow.
