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Kodak film
I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
over for film in 10 years.
I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
over for film in 10 years.
Re: Kodak film
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > wrote in message
news:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
>I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production
>back to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be
>all over for film in 10 years.
"Over for film im 10 years" - For Kodak, probably, but for the rest of us
film will certainly go out when the sky falls. No doubt about it. Seriously,
before film goes away there will be several EMP disasters that blow away
everything digital for miles around. Is that going to happen? Win/Win.
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > wrote in message
news:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
>I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production
>back to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be
>all over for film in 10 years.
"Over for film im 10 years" - For Kodak, probably, but for the rest of us
film will certainly go out when the sky falls. No doubt about it. Seriously,
before film goes away there will be several EMP disasters that blow away
everything digital for miles around. Is that going to happen? Win/Win.
Re: Kodak film
Art wrote:
> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
> to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
> over for film in 10 years.
Sorry for the joke, but I guess that "Lucky" wasn't. Honestly if Kodak
film lasts 10 years, I'd be really surprised. Kodak has to sell a large
number of rolls of film in order to make it worth selling any at all.
Smaller companies have less overhead, so they will stay profitable filling
a niche with film. Ilford is making an effort to do so, and there are a
few producers in Europe (EFKE, MACO).
Besides, Lucky may get their production bugs worked out. :-)
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson . com N3OWJ/4X1GM
Art wrote:
> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
> to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
> over for film in 10 years.
Sorry for the joke, but I guess that "Lucky" wasn't. Honestly if Kodak
film lasts 10 years, I'd be really surprised. Kodak has to sell a large
number of rolls of film in order to make it worth selling any at all.
Smaller companies have less overhead, so they will stay profitable filling
a niche with film. Ilford is making an effort to do so, and there are a
few producers in Europe (EFKE, MACO).
Besides, Lucky may get their production bugs worked out. :-)
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson . com N3OWJ/4X1GM
Re: Kodak film
Geoffrey S. Mendelson schrieb:
> Art wrote:
>> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
>> to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
>> over for film in 10 years.
>
> Sorry for the joke, but I guess that "Lucky" wasn't. Honestly if Kodak
> film lasts 10 years, I'd be really surprised. Kodak has to sell a large
> number of rolls of film in order to make it worth selling any at all.
>
> Smaller companies have less overhead, so they will stay profitable filling
> a niche with film. Ilford is making an effort to do so, and there are a
> few producers in Europe (EFKE, MACO).
Yes, Efke sucks more and more (Adox already filled Ilfords HP5+ into
containers for 100 ASA-film where Efke was expected) and Maco is getting
worse. They have "Rollei" film and use masterrolls, produced for 35mm
film, to cut out 120 (or the other way round?).
Beside this, kodak won't die.
Andreas
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Special unter * w w w .hoellenmusik.de/
Schottland unter * w w w .whisky-guide.de/
Geoffrey S. Mendelson schrieb:
> Art wrote:
>> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
>> to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
>> over for film in 10 years.
>
> Sorry for the joke, but I guess that "Lucky" wasn't. Honestly if Kodak
> film lasts 10 years, I'd be really surprised. Kodak has to sell a large
> number of rolls of film in order to make it worth selling any at all.
>
> Smaller companies have less overhead, so they will stay profitable filling
> a niche with film. Ilford is making an effort to do so, and there are a
> few producers in Europe (EFKE, MACO).
Yes, Efke sucks more and more (Adox already filled Ilfords HP5+ into
containers for 100 ASA-film where Efke was expected) and Maco is getting
worse. They have "Rollei" film and use masterrolls, produced for 35mm
film, to cut out 120 (or the other way round?).
Beside this, kodak won't die.
Andreas
--
Fotos unter * w w w .gugau-foto.de/
Special unter * w w w .hoellenmusik.de/
Schottland unter * w w w .whisky-guide.de/
Re: Kodak film
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > wrote in message
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> He thinks it might be all over for film in 10 years.
>
As long as for the foreseeable future most major (and probably many
independent) motion pictures, TV shows, and commercials are shot on film,
film is not going anywhere.
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > wrote in message
news:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
> He thinks it might be all over for film in 10 years.
>
As long as for the foreseeable future most major (and probably many
independent) motion pictures, TV shows, and commercials are shot on film,
film is not going anywhere.
Re: Kodak film
In article <q56dnQE2wO7ksmDanZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast . com >,
"ftran999" <ftran999@comcast . net > wrote:
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > wrote in message
> news:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
> > He thinks it might be all over for film in 10 years.
> >
>
> As long as for the foreseeable future most major (and probably many
> independent) motion pictures, TV shows, and commercials are shot on film,
> film is not going anywhere.
Kodak has just renewed its efforts in Super-8 movie film. They offer two
b/w (Double-X and Tri-X) and two color reversal (Ektachrome Daylight and
Tungsten) emulsions. No one has made a Super-8 camera in at least 20
years but the used marketplace is hot with young film makers wanting the
"film look" but can't afford 16mm. "Factory Girl" was shot on Super-8,
Super-16, and 35mm.
120 film has been in continuous production for 107 years, invented by
Kodak and never abandoned. There are still people who slit and respool
it for 4x4 "Baby" Rolleis etc.
I have my own negatives and prints going back to the 1960s. I also have
floppy disks (5-1/4", 3-1/2" single sided, double sided) SyQuest disks,
Magneto-Optical disks, WORM drive disks, and numerous data tape formats
(and video tape formats) -- none of which can be read or written since
the companies that made them either went belly up or higher density data
storage overtook them (or SCSI fell out of favor, or DV became all the
rage...). It is all well and good to bemoan the death of film, but
silver halide emulsion is an excellent archival storage medium.
Note I am specifically talking about black and white since that is what
I shoot 99% in medium and large format and 75% in 35mm and smaller.
In article <q56dnQE2wO7ksmDanZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast . com >,
"ftran999" <ftran999@comcast . net > wrote:
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > wrote in message
> news:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
> > He thinks it might be all over for film in 10 years.
> >
>
> As long as for the foreseeable future most major (and probably many
> independent) motion pictures, TV shows, and commercials are shot on film,
> film is not going anywhere.
Kodak has just renewed its efforts in Super-8 movie film. They offer two
b/w (Double-X and Tri-X) and two color reversal (Ektachrome Daylight and
Tungsten) emulsions. No one has made a Super-8 camera in at least 20
years but the used marketplace is hot with young film makers wanting the
"film look" but can't afford 16mm. "Factory Girl" was shot on Super-8,
Super-16, and 35mm.
120 film has been in continuous production for 107 years, invented by
Kodak and never abandoned. There are still people who slit and respool
it for 4x4 "Baby" Rolleis etc.
I have my own negatives and prints going back to the 1960s. I also have
floppy disks (5-1/4", 3-1/2" single sided, double sided) SyQuest disks,
Magneto-Optical disks, WORM drive disks, and numerous data tape formats
(and video tape formats) -- none of which can be read or written since
the companies that made them either went belly up or higher density data
storage overtook them (or SCSI fell out of favor, or DV became all the
rage...). It is all well and good to bemoan the death of film, but
silver halide emulsion is an excellent archival storage medium.
Note I am specifically talking about black and white since that is what
I shoot 99% in medium and large format and 75% in 35mm and smaller.
Re: Kodak film
Because they have excess capacity due to slow demand of film in worldwide
market. Nowaday, just one plane is enough to supply the worldwide demand
for film, therefore those plants in China are already closed.
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"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
>I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production
>back to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be
>all over for film in 10 years.
>
>
Because they have excess capacity due to slow demand of film in worldwide
market. Nowaday, just one plane is enough to supply the worldwide demand
for film, therefore those plants in China are already closed.
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Lonely Boy
* w w w .hmlai . com /
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"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring . com > ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D:VamdnfPGithvcGHanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@earthlink . com ...
>I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production
>back to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be
>all over for film in 10 years.
>
>
Re: Kodak film
Art wrote,on my timestamp of 10/04/2008 2:26 AM:
> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
> to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
> over for film in 10 years.
>
>
without fail, the thread about the
"impending doom" of film going away.
In 10 years.
That one was done 1 year ago.
And 2. 3. 4. And even 5 years ago.
According to these, it should have
happened already.
All that film in my fridge must be
a figment, then. And the fact that
I can buy it from just about anywhere.
When is it gonna down on these idiots
that film is *not* going away, no matter
how much comfort they might need for their
bad decision in buying their crap digital
camera, totally outdated in 18 months?
Art wrote,on my timestamp of 10/04/2008 2:26 AM:
> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production back
> to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be all
> over for film in 10 years.
>
>
without fail, the thread about the
"impending doom" of film going away.
In 10 years.
That one was done 1 year ago.
And 2. 3. 4. And even 5 years ago.
According to these, it should have
happened already.
All that film in my fridge must be
a figment, then. And the fact that
I can buy it from just about anywhere.
When is it gonna down on these idiots
that film is *not* going away, no matter
how much comfort they might need for their
bad decision in buying their crap digital
camera, totally outdated in 18 months?
Re: Kodak film
"AMEN!!!"
"Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo . com .au> wrote in message
news:fucnet$dna$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Art wrote,on my timestamp of 10/04/2008 2:26 AM:
>> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production
>> back to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be
>> all over for film in 10 years.
>
>
>
> without fail, the thread about the
> "impending doom" of film going away.
>
> In 10 years.
>
> That one was done 1 year ago.
> And 2. 3. 4. And even 5 years ago.
>
> According to these, it should have
> happened already.
>
> All that film in my fridge must be
> a figment, then. And the fact that
> I can buy it from just about anywhere.
>
>
> When is it gonna down on these idiots
> that film is *not* going away, no matter
> how much comfort they might need for their
> bad decision in buying their crap digital
> camera, totally outdated in 18 months?
"AMEN!!!"
"Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo . com .au> wrote in message
news:fucnet$dna$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Art wrote,on my timestamp of 10/04/2008 2:26 AM:
>> I was just talking to an old friend who has been working for Kodak for
>> almost 30 years. He tells me that Kodak is moving some film production
>> back to the US from China due to quality concerns. He thinks it might be
>> all over for film in 10 years.
>
>
>
> without fail, the thread about the
> "impending doom" of film going away.
>
> In 10 years.
>
> That one was done 1 year ago.
> And 2. 3. 4. And even 5 years ago.
>
> According to these, it should have
> happened already.
>
> All that film in my fridge must be
> a figment, then. And the fact that
> I can buy it from just about anywhere.
>
>
> When is it gonna down on these idiots
> that film is *not* going away, no matter
> how much comfort they might need for their
> bad decision in buying their crap digital
> camera, totally outdated in 18 months?
