flektogon not bad at all

flektogon not bad at all

A lot of folks complain about the eastern block
lenses and cameras.

Just got hold of an arax 60 with a Zeiss
Jena Flektogon 50/4.

Initial results are more than promising:

* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/beach%20park.jpg
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narra%20lagoon02.jpg
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth03.jpg
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth06.jpg
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth09.jpg
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narra%20park01.jpg

Best viewed with an adobe rgb(1998) profiled screen.
That's Kodak 100 ekta, very old roll I had in the fridge.
Very happy indeed with these results: I think
this combination is gonna be at my side for a while.

Had none of the often mentioned problems
with film advance registration: just gotta
be careful when loading that the film doesn't
catch on the rails.

Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo?

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Zot <wiz au@yahoo . com .au> wrote:

> Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo?

I've bought a re-worked Kiev 60 (basically the same camera) from Wiese
of Hamburg, Germany, eight years ago. Works perfectly and I've never had
the slightest problem. Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei
viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the
Arax-style MLU.

I have nothing but praise for it. And, yes, the Flektogon is indeed a
very good lens.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: * w w w .fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote,on my timestamp of 16/04/2008 11:37 PM:
> Zot <wiz au@yahoo . com .au> wrote:
>
>> Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo?
>
> I've bought a re-worked Kiev 60 (basically the same camera) from Wiese
> of Hamburg, Germany, eight years ago. Works perfectly and I've never had
> the slightest problem. Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei
> viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the
> Arax-style MLU.
>
> I have nothing but praise for it. And, yes, the Flektogon is indeed a
> very good lens.
>
> Ralf
>

Thanks a lot, Ralf. Love your Contarex shots!

One thing: do you have any comments on the
Sonnar 180/2.8? I'm thinking of getting
one of those for the same camera but haven't
had a chance to look for photo samples.
Also: on standard lenses, I'm told
the Biometars are excelllent, comments?

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Zot <wiz au@yahoo . com .au> wrote:

> One thing: do you have any comments on the
> Sonnar 180/2.8? I'm thinking of getting
> one of those for the same camera but haven't
> had a chance to look for photo samples.
> Also: on standard lenses, I'm told
> the Biometars are excelllent, comments?

You'll find a number of comments on the various lenses here:

* w w w .fotoralf.de/k60lens.htm

The Sonnar has always been one of my favourites, on the K60 as well as
adapted to my 35 mm cameras.

My 80 mm MC Biometar in the later Schneider barrel (blue/grey rubber
coating) is good enough that I've sold my Xenotar. The differences were
of no practical consequence.

The 120 mm MC Biometar is one of the best if not the best among my Zeiss
Jena lenses.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: * w w w .fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote,on my timestamp of 17/04/2008 12:33 AM:
> Zot <wiz au@yahoo . com .au> wrote:
>
>> One thing: do you have any comments on the
>> Sonnar 180/2.8? I'm thinking of getting
>> one of those for the same camera but haven't
>> had a chance to look for photo samples.
>> Also: on standard lenses, I'm told
>> the Biometars are excelllent, comments?
>
> You'll find a number of comments on the various lenses here:
>
> * w w w .fotoralf.de/k60lens.htm
>
> The Sonnar has always been one of my favourites, on the K60 as well as
> adapted to my 35 mm cameras.
>
> My 80 mm MC Biometar in the later Schneider barrel (blue/grey rubber
> coating) is good enough that I've sold my Xenotar. The differences were
> of no practical consequence.
>
> The 120 mm MC Biometar is one of the best if not the best among my Zeiss
> Jena lenses.
>
> Ralf
>


Thanks for the comments, Ralf.
Will do a read of that page.
Gotta think about this
very seriously: I do mostly 6x7 MF
but have been looking at 6x6 for a while.
This looks like an economical and high
quality system base to build around.

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

> [...] I've never had
> the slightest problem.

And,

> Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei
> viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the
> Arax-style MLU.

Strikes me as if there were a few things you thought were in need of
improvement, else you would not have wanted/needed to spend the extra money
on it, right?

;-)

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Q.G. de Bakker wrote,on my timestamp of 17/04/2008 1:02 AM:
>
>> Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei
>> viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the
>> Arax-style MLU.
>
> Strikes me as if there were a few things you thought were in need of
> improvement, else you would not have wanted/needed to spend the extra money
> on it, right?
>
> ;-)
>
>

that's the beauty of the Arax gear: it's got
all that done already.

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Zot <wiz au@yahoo . com .au> wrote:

> Q.G. de Bakker wrote,on my timestamp of 17/04/2008 1:02 AM:
> > Strikes me as if there were a few things you thought were in need of
> > improvement, else you would not have wanted/needed to spend the extra money
> > on it, right?
>
> that's the beauty of the Arax gear: it's got
> all that done already.

Is he still at his stupid crusade? Wouldn't even have noticed if it
hadn't been through your quoting him. QG's been one of the crown jewels
of my killfile for many years. :-)

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: * w w w .fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

> Is he still at his stupid crusade? Wouldn't even have noticed if it
> hadn't been through your quoting him. QG's been one of the crown jewels
> of my killfile for many years. :-)

Have i? Have we 'had words' before? I can't remember.

But anyway: you can't help but notice the shipload of irony sitting between
"perfectly" on the one hand, and the list of things you have had done to the
camera on the other.

Or let me put it another way: how does "perfect(ly)" and a need for
"anti-glare treatment of the mirror box" (to pick one from your list) go
together?

Sounds like Zot got the even more perfect camera, Ralf, when he bought his
from Arax.

But shame on you, Zot, for mentioning that. You must be on a stupid crusade,
else you wouldn't have!
;-)

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Q.G. de Bakker wrote:


> Have i? Have we 'had words' before? I can't remember.
>

For goodness sake don't turn this newsgroup into a rec.photo.equipment.35mm
clone.

Chill...

--
* w w w .petezilla.co.uk

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Peter Chant <REMpeteOVE@CAPpetezilla . it ALSco.uk> wrote:

> For goodness sake don't turn this newsgroup into a rec.photo.equipment.35mm
> clone.

There's a simple remedy: killfile or ignore him. This guy is the
quintessential troll.

The few remaining oldtimers in this newsgroup thank heavens we've seen
the end of his eternal stupid fights with Kievgurl. Now, please, don't
feed him again.

Or if you must, at least stop quoting him. Been so nice and quiet here
for a long time. Thanks.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: * w w w .fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

> There's a simple remedy: killfile or ignore him. This guy is the
> quintessential troll.
>
> The few remaining oldtimers in this newsgroup thank heavens we've seen
> the end of his eternal stupid fights with Kievgurl. Now, please, don't
> feed him again.
>
> Or if you must, at least stop quoting him. Been so nice and quiet here
> for a long time. Thanks.

Now where is all this anger coming from?

Are we suposed to agree, or get lost?

Is this still you, Ralf? I knew a very different one once.

Ah well.
Whatever you think you remember, it will not make it easier to reconcile
"perfect" with a need for "anti-glare [etcetera]".
And if you don't want to be "chalenged", just don't say silly things.
Your "don't feel the trolls" diversion is pathetic.

Re: flektogon not bad at all

On Apr 18, 4:16 am, Peter Chant <REMpete...@CAPpetezilla . it ALSco.uk>
wrote:
> Q.G. de Bakker wrote:
> > Have i? Have we 'had words' before? I can't remember.
>
> For goodness sake don't turn this newsgroup into a rec.photo.equipment.35mm
> clone.
>
> Chill...
>
> -- * w w w .petezilla.co.uk


Agreed.

Re: flektogon not bad at all

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Zot <wiz_au@yahoo . com .au> saying
something like:

>Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo?

Sorry, I'm a bit late to this party.
I've been using a P6 and a Flek 50/4 with decent results. With an
adapter I use it on a Mamiya 645J and am quite pleased with it.
It also shows up much more modern glass when used on smaller format and
digital SLRs.
--

Dave

Re: flektogon not bad at all

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote,on my timestamp of 18/08/2008 10:58 PM:

>> Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo?
>
> Sorry, I'm a bit late to this party.

Better late than never! :)

> I've been using a P6 and a Flek 50/4 with decent results. With an
> adapter I use it on a Mamiya 645J and am quite pleased with it.
> It also shows up much more modern glass when used on smaller format and
> digital SLRs.


Yeah, I'm amazed by that lens. Incredible quality
for very low price, really. Haven't tried it on smaller
formats, but there is a 180/2.8 Sonnar on my way now
and it comes with a Nikon adapter: that's gonna get
some use for sure, besides the MF gear!
The folks at APUG are also quite keen on the Flek, for
very good reasons I'm sure.
This:
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narra%20park01.jpg
and this:
* members.iinet . net .au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth03.jpg
were taken with it, hand-held, Ekta100.
On the original scan, the faces of the folks on the other side
of the water are clearly visible.