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Confusing camera product names and series

Reply from: aniramca@yahoo . com
Date: 06 May 2007, 15:49
Confusing camera product names and series

I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they
as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast
budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult
for the consumers.
Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may
provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do
lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or
all of the above? Examples as follows

Canon cameras:
Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
professionals?

Nikon Cameras:
Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much
earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that
the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end
powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)?
Digital series: Is the D200 the new ultimate digital camera produced
by Nikon? How does it compare to the older D1 or D1H introduced in
the early 2000s?

Panasonic/Lumix cameras:
Powershot series : What are the difference between series FX, FZ, LX,
LC, LZ and TZ?
I found the Panasonic series are even worse than Canon in term of
trying to compare with. LZ series is the bulky one. What series is the
ultra compact one? Is it LC series?
Is the FZ50 currently the top of the line of the powershot series?
How is this compare to Lumix LX2, for example? Does Lumix produce
product similar to Canon G7?
Only one digital product, which is L1 - so, no comparison.

Thanks for info.


Reply from: Silicon Sam
Date: 06 May 2007, 16:14
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On May 6, 8:49 am, anira...@yahoo . com wrote:

> Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
> Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
> professionals?
>
> Thanks for info.

On the Canon Digital, the shorter the number, the more Pro the
camera...

1D, 5D Professional

10D, 20D, 30D Pro-Consumer

300D, 350D, 400D Consumer

The 300D, 350D, and 400D is the "other" name for the Digital Rebel,
Rebel XT, and Rebel XTi

Sam


Reply from: Not Disclosed
Date: 06 May 2007, 17:12
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

Silicon Sam wrote:
> On May 6, 8:49 am, anira...@yahoo . com wrote:
>
>> Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
>> Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
>> professionals?
>>
>> Thanks for info.
>
> On the Canon Digital, the shorter the number, the more Pro the
> camera...
>
> 1D, 5D Professional
>
THe 5D . . . IS NOT A PRO CAMERA, Canon on considers the 1D series as
pro. Only the 1D series will get Canon Pro Service, in other words if it
breaks a 5D goes into the que and doesn't get any priority in servicing,
which in Canada runs 4-6 weeks...

Reply from: Randy Stewart
Date: 06 May 2007, 19:31
Re: Confusing camera product names and series


<aniramca@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:1178459368.988307.189770@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
>I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
> companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
> and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they
> as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast
> budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult
> for the consumers.
> Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may
> provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do
> lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or
> all of the above? Examples as follows
>
> Canon cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
> series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
> style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
> IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
> Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
> Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
> professionals?
>
> Nikon Cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
> S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much
> earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that
> the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end
> powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)?
> Digital series: Is the D200 the new ultimate digital camera produced
> by Nikon? How does it compare to the older D1 or D1H introduced in
> the early 2000s?
>
> Panasonic/Lumix cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between series FX, FZ, LX,
> LC, LZ and TZ?
> I found the Panasonic series are even worse than Canon in term of
> trying to compare with. LZ series is the bulky one. What series is the
> ultra compact one? Is it LC series?
> Is the FZ50 currently the top of the line of the powershot series?
> How is this compare to Lumix LX2, for example? Does Lumix produce
> product similar to Canon G7?
> Only one digital product, which is L1 - so, no comparison.
>
> Thanks for info.


You are not going to find any theme for model naming which would be
seriously useful for comparison shopping between models, as opposed to just
looking at the feature set of each model. Whatever patterns exist are going
to be subject to so many exceptions that your inquiry is probably useless.

Having recently shopped two 7 meg point-and-shoot digitals with and for two
pre-teens, I have experienced your confusion. I ened up sitting at a
computer with each "end-user", fixing a price range, then briefly comparing
the most important features of each model within the offerings of two
makers. For what its worth, the type of battery options usable [AA],
physical size, time from power-up to first exposure, and shutter lag
reported by users proven to be the most important issues. I was surprised
at the sophisiticated shopper's decision-making of a 10 and 13 year old; I
was not so surpised that the cameras are used more as novel toys, exotic
possessions, than as photographic appliances.



Reply from: John McWilliams
Date: 06 May 2007, 22:25
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

Randy Stewart wrote:
> <aniramca@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:1178459368.988307.189770@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
>> I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
>> companies place their product in the market.

>> Canon cameras:
>> Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
>> series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
>> style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
>> IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
>> Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
>> Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
>> professionals?
>>

>
> You are not going to find any theme for model naming which would be
> seriously useful for comparison shopping between models, as opposed to just
> looking at the feature set of each model. Whatever patterns exist are going
> to be subject to so many exceptions that your inquiry is probably useless.

Did you even read the other replies? Although I'd agree that down and
dirty comparison of features and price points is more important.

--
john mcwilliams

Reply from: Alan Clifford
Date: 06 May 2007, 22:56
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On Sun, 6 May 2007, aniramca@yahoo . com wrote:

> I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
> companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
>
> Nikon Cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
> S?

Performance, Style, Life. This is pretty clear on the Nikon website. What
is not clear is what is actually meant by the buzzwords Style and Life :-(

--
Alan

( If replying by mail, please note that all "sardines" are canned.
However, unless this a very old message, a "tuna" will swim right
through. )


Reply from: Charles
Date: 06 May 2007, 23:54
Re: Confusing camera product names and series


<aniramca@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:1178459368.988307.189770@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
>I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
> companies place their product in the market.

As do we all. I have been teaching digital photography in my community and
find it difficult to help others select a camera.

This might be an excellent opportunity for someone. A web-based parametric
search engine. One would enter price and key items from their desired
feature set, and then be presented with models that comply with the search
parameters. Such a site would be a major PITA to constantly debug and
upgrade but with paying links to vendors, it could be profitable. No, I am
not about to tackle it myself but would be interested in helping anyone who
would.



Reply from: Robert Coe
Date: 07 May 2007, 00:38
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On 6 May 2007 06:49:29 -0700, aniramca@yahoo . com wrote:
: I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
: companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
: and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they
: as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast
: budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult
: for the consumers.
: Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may
: provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do
: lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or
: all of the above? Examples as follows
:
: Canon cameras:
: Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
: series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
: style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
: IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
: Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
: Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
: professionals?
:
: Nikon Cameras:
: Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
: S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much
: earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that
: the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end
: powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)?

Nikon has a "Powershot" series? Won't that get them sued for copyright
infringement? I'm pretty sure Canon was there first.

Bob

Reply from: kinga202NOSPAM@hotmail . com
Date: 07 May 2007, 01:29
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On May 6, 11:49 pm, anira...@yahoo . com wrote:
> I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
> companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
> and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they
> as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast
> budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult
> for the consumers.
> Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may
> provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do
> lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or
> all of the above? Examples as follows
>
> Canon cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
> series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
> style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
> IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
> Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
> Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
> professionals?
>
> Nikon Cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
> S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much
> earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that
> the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end
> powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)?
> Digital series: Is the D200 the new ultimate digital camera produced
> by Nikon? How does it compare to the older D1 or D1H introduced in
> the early 2000s?
>
> Panasonic/Lumix cameras:
> Powershot series : What are the difference between series FX, FZ, LX,
> LC, LZ and TZ?
> I found the Panasonic series are even worse than Canon in term of
> trying to compare with. LZ series is the bulky one. What series is the
> ultra compact one? Is it LC series?
> Is the FZ50 currently the top of the line of the powershot series?
> How is this compare to Lumix LX2, for example? Does Lumix produce
> product similar to Canon G7?
> Only one digital product, which is L1 - so, no comparison.
>
> Thanks for info.

Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in
different regions

WHY?

Kinga 2o2



Reply from: ASAAR
Date: 07 May 2007, 01:46
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On 6 May 2007 16:29:47 -0700, kinga202NOSPAM@hotmail . com yeapped:

> Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in
> different regions
>
> WHY?

In order to avoid calling it an S5300. The next camera in this
line may be named S800 and S5800. I assume that you're familiar
with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line and
the greater confusion that those names may have caused.


Reply from: Michael.Pasturi@gmail . com
Date: 07 May 2007, 04:21
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On May 7, 9:46 am, ASAAR <cau...@22 . com > wrote:
> On 6 May 2007 16:29:47 -0700, kinga202NOS...@hotmail . com yeapped:
>
> > Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in
> > different regions
>
> > WHY?
>
> In order to avoid calling it an S5300. The next camera in this
> line may be named S800 and S5800. I assume that you're familiar
> with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line and
> the greater confusion that those names may have caused.

Sorry, u missed my point.Being the SAME name for the same camera,
regardless where its sold.

Has Nth.America a problem is saying "S5700" so they made it shorter to
"S700"?

But then again, i remember my first SLR/35mm was a Minolta 700, called
a "Dynax'? or similar in N/America

Cheers

Kinga 202


Reply from: ASAAR
Date: 07 May 2007, 06:49
Re: Confusing camera product names and series

On 6 May 2007 19:21:14 -0700, Michael.Pasturi@gmail . com wrote:

>> In order to avoid calling it an S5300. The next camera in this
>> line may be named S800 and S5800. I assume that you're familiar
>> with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line and
>> the greater confusion that those names may have caused.
>
> Sorry, u missed my point.Being the SAME name for the same camera,
> regardless where its sold.

Sorry, but you didn't make an clear and obvious point. You did
see that I said "I assume that you're familiar with the naming
convention used for earlier cameras in this line . . .", where
nothing like "S700" was used. Whether you do or don't know, the
names used for the same Fuji cameras, depending on region, are
S5100/S5500 and S5200/S5600. Notice that S500 and S600 weren't
used. As to why, It's hard to say since many manufacturers do it,
including Canon, Nikon and Sony, among others, and this name
changing isn't used just for cameras. Sometimes it might be to use
a word that may appeal more to people in one region than another,
such as Canon's use of "Digital Rebel" for the USA. In the case of
the Fuji, it's not that, since the difference between S5200 and
S5600 would hardly matter much in terms of its appeal to buyers. In
this case it might be for Nikon's reason, which is to make it easier
to identify where the camera might have been "legitimately" sold. I
don't know if Fuji restricts warranty coverage as unreasonably as
Nikon does, in attempting to deny coverage to gray market cameras.


> Has Nth.America a problem is saying "S5700" so they made it shorter
> to "S700"?

Obviously not, as S5200 wouldn't be any harder to say than S5600.
I did give a possible reason why S700 was used instead of S5300. Do
try to pay more attention. Focus. Focus. :) Which leads us to
another interesting point/question. While this isn't your first
message to appear using the name "Michael.Pasturi", it's the first
I've seen to have been signed "Kinga 202". Did you slip up, or were
you unduly influenced by Fuji into using multiple confusing nyms. :)


> But then again, i remember my first SLR/35mm was a Minolta 700, called
> a "Dynax'? or similar in N/America

Maybe it's just that Minolta (and other manufacturers) leave
product naming to local marketing "experts", and in the USA they
tend to value (or overvalue) the influence of name associations with
sales. "x" is often used for various reasons. "Dyna" might bring
"Dynamic" to mind. You'll never see a serious camera named "Sleepy"
or "Woofer 180". <g>


Cheers

Not Kinga 202
Not Michael Pasturi





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