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New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

Reply from: aniramca@gmail . com
Date: 31 Aug 2007, 14:08
New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?


Reply from: Sosumi
Date: 31 Aug 2007, 20:26
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!


<aniramca@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:1188562122.590971.279550@57g2000hsv.googlegroups . com ...
> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?

If you donīt know anything, how do you know it has "arrived"?



Reply from: Gummo
Date: 31 Aug 2007, 22:30
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

"Sosumi" <sosumi@home.nl> wrote in message
news:qaCdnbzFjcLWwEXbnZ2dnUVZ8smgnZ2d@novis.pt...
>
> If you donīt know anything, how do you know it has "arrived"?

Stop being deliberately obtuse.

Gummo.



Reply from: Tony Polson
Date: 31 Aug 2007, 22:36
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

"Sosumi" <sosumi@home.nl> wrote:

>
><aniramca@gmail . com > wrote in message
>news:1188562122.590971.279550@57g2000hsv.googlegroups . com ...
>> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
>> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
>> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
>> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
>> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
>> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
>> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
>> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?
>
>If you donīt know anything, how do you know it has "arrived"?


In the days when a certain photography equipment review site posted a
user review page for a new camera on the same day it was announced,
there would be dozens of "user reviews" posted within a few days.

Of course none of these people had even seen or touched the camera,
let alone used it.


Reply from: Rich
Date: 01 Sep 2007, 02:40
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

On Aug 31, 8:08 am, anira...@gmail . com wrote:
> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?

Looks flimsy and cheap, like their P&S cameras. I hope it isn't sized
for midget hands.


Reply from: aniramca@gmail . com
Date: 01 Sep 2007, 13:51
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Aug 31, 8:08 am, anira...@gmail . com wrote:
>
> > The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
> > not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
> > competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
> > Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
> > the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
> > ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
> > Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
> > Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?
>
> Looks flimsy and cheap, like their P&S cameras. I hope it isn't sized
> for midget hands.

A limited number of sample shots can be viewed at
* w w w .letsgodigital.org/en/16494/panasonic-lumix-l10-preview/
The Panasonic website has not shown any sample photos yet.

I am not sure if this camera will compete head on with the popular and
entry level DSLR in the market today. Price range seems to be slotted
to compete with D80 or 40D. Similar to the L1, perhaps it is a little
too expensive and people may end up buying its "sibling" - the Olympus
510 instead. The Leica lens may be a factor in the high price of the
camera, but it will certainly promise a good quality, sharp pictures.


Reply from: Dave Cohen
Date: 01 Sep 2007, 23:56
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

aniramca@gmail . com wrote:
> On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 8:08 am, anira...@gmail . com wrote:
>>
>>> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
>>> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
>>> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
>>> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
>>> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
>>> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
>>> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
>>> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?
>> Looks flimsy and cheap, like their P&S cameras. I hope it isn't sized
>> for midget hands.
>
> A limited number of sample shots can be viewed at
> * w w w .letsgodigital.org/en/16494/panasonic-lumix-l10-preview/
> The Panasonic website has not shown any sample photos yet.
>
> I am not sure if this camera will compete head on with the popular and
> entry level DSLR in the market today. Price range seems to be slotted
> to compete with D80 or 40D. Similar to the L1, perhaps it is a little
> too expensive and people may end up buying its "sibling" - the Olympus
> 510 instead. The Leica lens may be a factor in the high price of the
> camera, but it will certainly promise a good quality, sharp pictures.
>

To my uneducated eye, those pictures could have been taken with any
camera, but it's not everyday you get a close up of a horse's ass.
Dave Cohen

Reply from: Gummo
Date: 02 Sep 2007, 01:25
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

"Dave Cohen" <user@example . net > wrote in message
news:5elCi.2050$es2.2008@trndny09...

> To my uneducated eye, those pictures could have been taken with any
> camera, but it's not everyday you get a close up of a horse's ass.
> Dave Cohen

Ditto.

Gummo



Reply from: JoeT
Date: 02 Sep 2007, 07:19
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!


"Dave Cohen" <user@example . net > wrote in message
news:5elCi.2050$es2.2008@trndny09...
> aniramca@gmail . com wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>> On Aug 31, 8:08 am, anira...@gmail . com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
>>>> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
>>>> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
>>>> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
>>>> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
>>>> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
>>>> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
>>>> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?
>>> Looks flimsy and cheap, like their P&S cameras. I hope it isn't sized
>>> for midget hands.
>>
>> A limited number of sample shots can be viewed at
>> * w w w .letsgodigital.org/en/16494/panasonic-lumix-l10-preview/
>> The Panasonic website has not shown any sample photos yet.
>>
>> I am not sure if this camera will compete head on with the popular and
>> entry level DSLR in the market today. Price range seems to be slotted
>> to compete with D80 or 40D. Similar to the L1, perhaps it is a little
>> too expensive and people may end up buying its "sibling" - the Olympus
>> 510 instead. The Leica lens may be a factor in the high price of the
>> camera, but it will certainly promise a good quality, sharp pictures.
>>
>
> To my uneducated eye, those pictures could have been taken with any
> camera, but it's not everyday you get a close up of a horse's ass.
> Dave Cohen

My biggest question concerns the supposed ISO comparison shots. Wouldn't it
be easier, not to mention far more relevant to the purpose of comparison, to
actually use the same shot while changing settings? lol





Reply from: in SC
Date: 02 Sep 2007, 07:50
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:19:42 -0500, "JoeT" <glitchworks@comcast . net >
wrote:

>
>"Dave Cohen" <user@example . net > wrote in message
>news:5elCi.2050$es2.2008@trndny09...
>> aniramca@gmail . com wrote:
>>> On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>> On Aug 31, 8:08 am, anira...@gmail . com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
>>>>> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
>>>>> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
>>>>> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
>>>>> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
>>>>> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
>>>>> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
>>>>> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?
>>>> Looks flimsy and cheap, like their P&S cameras. I hope it isn't sized
>>>> for midget hands.
>>>
>>> A limited number of sample shots can be viewed at
>>> * w w w .letsgodigital.org/en/16494/panasonic-lumix-l10-preview/
>>> The Panasonic website has not shown any sample photos yet.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if this camera will compete head on with the popular and
>>> entry level DSLR in the market today. Price range seems to be slotted
>>> to compete with D80 or 40D. Similar to the L1, perhaps it is a little
>>> too expensive and people may end up buying its "sibling" - the Olympus
>>> 510 instead. The Leica lens may be a factor in the high price of the
>>> camera, but it will certainly promise a good quality, sharp pictures.
>>>
>>
>> To my uneducated eye, those pictures could have been taken with any
>> camera, but it's not everyday you get a close up of a horse's ass.
>> Dave Cohen
>
>My biggest question concerns the supposed ISO comparison shots. Wouldn't it
>be easier, not to mention far more relevant to the purpose of comparison, to
>actually use the same shot while changing settings? lol
>
>
>
Yeah. ... I thought the same thing.. how do you"compair" with
different angles..?

Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid.
If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.
John Wayne 1907-1979

Chuck (in SC)

Reply from: JML
Date: 01 Sep 2007, 18:51
Re: New Panasonic Lumix DSLR finally arrived!

Hands-on preview:
* w w w .dpreview . com /previews/panasonicdmcl10/

Yes, the sensor is smaller than regular APS-C size sensors, which means
that - with equal number of megapixels - the individual sensors are
smaller, making them more prone to noise and dirt. Seems like they are
doing a fairly good job at handling noise, though, judging from the
pictures.

In my opinion, and unless you already have 2/3 gear, I would stay away
and go with a regular APS-C size camera. The 2/3 market is still
immature and highly overprized.

JML

aniramca@gmail . com wrote:
> The new Panasonic Lumix DMC- L10 is finally arrived. However, I have
> not seen any sample photos. I wonder on how does it compare to other
> competitors. I heard it shares some of the technologies with the
> Olympus E-510. Having the four thirds type sensor, does this mean that
> the sensor size is slightly smaller than the standard DSLR sensor
> ( i.e 18x13.5mm instead of around 22x15mm)?
> Curious to see how the sample photos turned out using the standard
> Leica kit lens. Anyone saw sample photos from any website yet?
>




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