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Why do places want old film?

Reply from: Ric Trexell
Date: 22 Feb 2008, 02:09
Why do places want old film?

Perhaps you can answer me this. In the back of some photography mags,
Columbus Photo Group or some such wants old film, any amount. I have seen
others advertise for this too. Can you tell me why anyone would want old
film, especially in this day of digital? It can't be to test cameras for
repair as there are electric testers for everything, the little bit of
silver is not worth the hassle, so what else is there? Got any ideas? Ric
in Wisconsin.



Reply from: Ken Hart
Date: 22 Feb 2008, 05:29
Re: Why do places want old film?


"Ric Trexell" <rictrexell@vbe . com > wrote in message
news:13rs7qrfa069j94@corp.supernews . com ...
> Perhaps you can answer me this. In the back of some photography mags,
> Columbus Photo Group or some such wants old film, any amount. I have seen
> others advertise for this too. Can you tell me why anyone would want old
> film, especially in this day of digital? It can't be to test cameras for
> repair as there are electric testers for everything, the little bit of
> silver is not worth the hassle, so what else is there? Got any ideas?
> Ric
> in Wisconsin.
>
>
Possibly the best thing to do would be to ask the buyer.
A couple reasons come to mind:
1. There are not "electric testers" for everything. The easiest way to test
the film advance in a roll film back is to slap in a roll of film, use a
marker to draw around the film gate, advance the film, draw around the film
gate, again, again, etc. Then remove the film and look at the distance
between the drawn squares to see if the film advance is correct.
2. Got a stash of old 620 film? Scrap the film, spool 120 film onto the
spools, and sell it at a premium price to collectors who use 620 size film.
3. Often, someone finds an old camera with a roll of film in it. You can't
take an old roll of film to the local WalMart or RiteAid; you have to find a
specialty processor (like Film Rescue International in Canada). Those
processors hone their techniques with old, expired films. (Usually a very
weak developer at low temp for a long period of time-perhaps a day or so)
4. Last year, I decorated the Christmas tree in the studio with strips of
film.
5. If you run out of toilet paper, you can use the paper backing from roll
film to TP someone's house.

This day may be digital for you, but for those of us who still appreciate
quality, film is a very viable commodity. Good things come to those who are
willing to wait (and work for them).



Reply from: Chris Savage
Date: 22 Feb 2008, 14:07
Re: Why do places want old film?

On 2008-02-22, Ric Trexell <rictrexell@vbe . com > wrote:
> Perhaps you can answer me this. In the back of some photography mags,
> Columbus Photo Group or some such wants old film, any amount. I have seen
> others advertise for this too. Can you tell me why anyone would want old
> film, especially in this day of digital? It can't be to test cameras for
> repair as there are electric testers for everything, the little bit of
> silver is not worth the hassle, so what else is there? Got any ideas? Ric
> in Wisconsin.

Guess what? Plenty of people still take photographs on film. I know a
significant number of people who get positively excited at winning an
ebay auction for a roll of Agfa slide film so they can stick it in their
Lomos and xpro it.

I recently cleared out my fridge and gave several rolls to a group of
such folk. Had to impose the proviso that anyone who took Velvia would
get it developed in E-6.

If someone were to offer me a case of film I'd happily take it and
confidently expect a nice payout from ebay.

--
Chris Savage Kiss me. Or would you rather live in a
Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
- Billy Bragg

Reply from: Toni Nikkanen
Date: 22 Feb 2008, 14:17
Re: Why do places want old film?

Chris Savage <spam.goes.here@devnull.savvo.co.uk> writes:

> Guess what? Plenty of people still take photographs on film. I know a
> significant number of people who get positively excited at winning an
> ebay auction for a roll of Agfa slide film so they can stick it in their
> Lomos and xpro it.

That's just crazy since you can just buy it normally from shops such
as lumiere-shop.de in any amount you want... no need to hunt for
oddball lots on ebay.

(And you can send it to Arka Laboratoire for proper processing, too.)


Reply from: Chris Savage
Date: 22 Feb 2008, 15:35
Re: Why do places want old film?

On 2008-02-22, Toni Nikkanen <toni@morgoth.tuug.fi> wrote:
> Chris Savage <spam.goes.here@devnull.savvo.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Guess what? Plenty of people still take photographs on film. I know a
>> significant number of people who get positively excited at winning an
>> ebay auction for a roll of Agfa slide film so they can stick it in their
>> Lomos and xpro it.
>
> That's just crazy since you can just buy it normally from shops such
> as lumiere-shop.de in any amount you want... no need to hunt for
> oddball lots on ebay.
>

As crazy as shooting as shooting with overpriced plastic-lensed
light-leaky cameras then deliberately mistreating the film before,
during and after development just to justify that whole 'new artistic
movement' bullshit?

You're right. Welcome to lomography.

--
Chris Savage Kiss me. Or would you rather live in a
Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
- Billy Bragg

Reply from: Toni Nikkanen
Date: 23 Feb 2008, 18:39
Re: Why do places want old film?

Chris Savage <spam.goes.here@devnull.savvo.co.uk> writes:

> As crazy as shooting as shooting with overpriced plastic-lensed
> light-leaky cameras then deliberately mistreating the film before,
> during and after development just to justify that whole 'new artistic
> movement' bullshit?
>
> You're right. Welcome to lomography.

I didn't know the point was in obtaining the film the hard way. I
prefer to buy my Scala from a reputed shop, not some oddball ebay
seller who happens to have 3 rolls left somewhere and "yeah sure I
kept it in the freezer all the time".


Reply from: Ken Hart
Date: 22 Feb 2008, 15:50
Re: Why do places want old film?


"Toni Nikkanen" <toni@morgoth.tuug.fi> wrote in message
news:rlpejb5p1ud.fsf@morgoth.tuug.fi...
> Chris Savage <spam.goes.here@devnull.savvo.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Guess what? Plenty of people still take photographs on film. I know a
>> significant number of people who get positively excited at winning an
>> ebay auction for a roll of Agfa slide film so they can stick it in their
>> Lomos and xpro it.
>
> That's just crazy since you can just buy it normally from shops such
> as lumiere-shop.de in any amount you want... no need to hunt for
> oddball lots on ebay.
>
> (And you can send it to Arka Laboratoire for proper processing, too.)

And you can spend your life eating macaroni and cheese from a blue box, too.
But just once in a while, you might want to take a bite of boiled squid or
deep-fried grasshopper.
Trying something different or unusual is not always 'just crazy'

>



Reply from: Ric Trexell
Date: 23 Feb 2008, 03:31
Re: Why do places want old film?


"Ric Trexell" <rictrexell@vbe . com > wrote in message
news:13rs7qrfa069j94@corp.supernews . com ...
> Perhaps you can answer me this. In the back of some photography mags,
> Columbus Photo Group or some such wants old film, any amount.
***************************************************************
Thanks for the good answers and even for those that completely misread my
post. I wasn't thinking about using it to test for the advancement of film
in a camera. That is probably what they want. As to those that thought my
post had anything to do with digital (just because I mentioned in this day
of digital) I only shoot film. I scan my film for digital shots. The weird
thing is that they say in the adverstisements, out of date film but never
anything about the format. You could send them sheet film so that would not
have anything to do with the advancement of the film. Also, they don't rule
out 110 film and who fixes those things any more? I guess I will just have
to contact the people and ask them what in the world do you want out of date
film for? Thanks again. Ric.



Reply from: Chris Savage
Date: 23 Feb 2008, 13:33
Re: Why do places want old film?

On 2008-02-23, Ric Trexell <rictrexell@vbe . com > wrote:
>
> Also, they don't rule
> out 110 film and who fixes those things any more? I guess I will just have
> to contact the people and ask them what in the world do you want out of date
> film for?

Again. Because people buy it.

--
Chris Savage Kiss me. Or would you rather live in a
Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
- Billy Bragg

Reply from: Stewy
Date: 13 Mar 2008, 15:34
Re: Why do places want old film?

In article <hdg595-mj6.ln1@tog.savvo.co.uk>,
Chris Savage <spam.goes.here@devnull.savvo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2008-02-23, Ric Trexell <rictrexell@vbe . com > wrote:
> >
> > Also, they don't rule
> > out 110 film and who fixes those things any more? I guess I will just have
> > to contact the people and ask them what in the world do you want out of date
> > film for?
>
> Again. Because people buy it.

I remember 20 years ago buying a Minolta 16 16mm camera. I was always
trying to find more film cassettes - I finally found an old camera shop
with a box full of outdated film. The film was immediately dumped and I
had 20 brand-new cassettes.

I build a little cutter to take 35mm film. Two razor blades set 16mm
apart allowed me to cut a strip from the middle of the film. A roll of
36 would give me three 25 exposure rolls of 16mm and I had all the kinds
of 35mm film to choose from.

BTW Does anyone think this camera is worth anything?

Reply from: Fred Anonymous
Date: 13 Mar 2008, 20:04
Re: Why do places want old film?


"Stewy" <anyone4tennis@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:anyone4tennis-F87C8F.23345113032008@newssv.kcn.ne.jp...
> In article <hdg595-mj6.ln1@tog.savvo.co.uk>,
> Chris Savage <spam.goes.here@devnull.savvo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 2008-02-23, Ric Trexell <rictrexell@vbe . com > wrote:
>> >
>> > Also, they don't
>> > rule
>> > out 110 film and who fixes those things any more? I guess I will just
>> > have
>> > to contact the people and ask them what in the world do you want out of
>> > date
>> > film for?
>>
>> Again. Because people buy it.
>
> I remember 20 years ago buying a Minolta 16 16mm camera. I was always
> trying to find more film cassettes - I finally found an old camera shop
> with a box full of outdated film. The film was immediately dumped and I
> had 20 brand-new cassettes.
>
> I build a little cutter to take 35mm film. Two razor blades set 16mm
> apart allowed me to cut a strip from the middle of the film. A roll of
> 36 would give me three 25 exposure rolls of 16mm and I had all the kinds
> of 35mm film to choose from.
>
> BTW Does anyone think this camera is worth anything?

Hi there.

By all means check prices on eBay and some of the second-hand dealer
adverts.

I reckon this camera will have a niche with the enthusiast collector so,
yes, it is worth something.
Not sure how much. If I were collecting cameras then I'd offer up to £60 -
£60.

Regards, Ian.






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