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Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Reply from: tims next home
Date: 06 May 2008, 09:19
Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

* news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm

Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
headline!).

That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less genuine
taxes).

And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
check in bags for fun.

I'm off on holiday today and I have just managed to get my stuff in a carry
on bag. But that's an EZY carry on bag with no weight limit and 20% larger
dimensions than FR. I would have failed to manage this with a Ryanair sized
bag. And I have compromised on the stuff I am taking to manage it at all: I
have my small crappy camera instead of the big one that I prefer to take,
and I'm allowed insufficient liquid toiletries so that I'm going to have to
buy stuff when I arrive which I will have to throw away part used (I do hate
the effect on the earth's resources of this throw away society!).

I really do think that he is going too far with these new charges.

tim










Reply from: Ned Flanders
Date: 06 May 2008, 10:51
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On 6 May, 09:19, "tims next home" <tims new h...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>
> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
> headline!).
>
> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less genuine
> taxes).
>
> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
> check in bags for fun.
>
> I'm off on holiday today and I have just managed to get my stuff in a carry
> on bag. But that's an EZY carry on bag with no weight limit and 20% larger
> dimensions than FR. I would have failed to manage this with a Ryanair sized
> bag. And I have compromised on the stuff I am taking to manage it at all: I
> have my small crappy camera instead of the big one that I prefer to take,
> and I'm allowed insufficient liquid toiletries so that I'm going to have to
> buy stuff when I arrive which I will have to throw away part used (I do hate
> the effect on the earth's resources of this throw away society!).
>
> I really do think that he is going too far with these new charges.
>
> tim

instead of throwing it away, give it to some poor people, you'll feel
better....and they will smell better....
charging more for bags is a good idea though, it will make people
think hard about the crap they normally take.

Reply from: Runge11
Date: 06 May 2008, 21:25
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Some people like michaelnewpoort are no better than the crap, ban him from
all airlines !

"Ned Flanders" <michaelnewport@yahoo . com > a écrit dans le message de
news:c4acd456-075b-4a83-b163-eca64b8b0dd4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> On 6 May, 09:19, "tims next home" <tims new h...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>>
>> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
>> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
>> headline!).
>>
>> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
>> genuine
>> taxes).
>>
>> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
>> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
>> check in bags for fun.
>>
>> I'm off on holiday today and I have just managed to get my stuff in a
>> carry
>> on bag. But that's an EZY carry on bag with no weight limit and 20%
>> larger
>> dimensions than FR. I would have failed to manage this with a Ryanair
>> sized
>> bag. And I have compromised on the stuff I am taking to manage it at
>> all: I
>> have my small crappy camera instead of the big one that I prefer to take,
>> and I'm allowed insufficient liquid toiletries so that I'm going to have
>> to
>> buy stuff when I arrive which I will have to throw away part used (I do
>> hate
>> the effect on the earth's resources of this throw away society!).
>>
>> I really do think that he is going too far with these new charges.
>>
>> tim
>
> instead of throwing it away, give it to some poor people, you'll feel
> better....and they will smell better....
> charging more for bags is a good idea though, it will make people
> think hard about the crap they normally take.


Reply from: James Silverton
Date: 06 May 2008, 14:25
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

tims wrote on Tue, 6 May 2008 08:19:50 +0100:

> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP
> so that 24 Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK
> I exaggerated in the headline!).

> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight
> (less genuine taxes).

> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase
> baggage fees until half of our passengers check-in online".
> Does he think that people check in bags for fun.

I've never flown Ryanair but I wonder if their luggage policies
could be considered age discrimnation? Seniors will be charged
more because they are incapable of manhandling heavy carryon
luggage or, as is not unusual, they have to bring more things
with them.


--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: Ned Flanders
Date: 06 May 2008, 15:11
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On 6 May, 14:25, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.not>
wrote:
> tims wrote on Tue, 6 May 2008 08:19:50 +0100:
>
> > Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP
> > so that 24 Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK
> > I exaggerated in the headline!).
> > That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight
> > (less genuine taxes).
> > And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase
> > baggage fees until half of our passengers check-in online".
> > Does he think that people check in bags for fun.
>
> I've never flown Ryanair but I wonder if their luggage policies
> could be considered age discrimnation? Seniors will be charged
> more because they are incapable of manhandling heavy carryon
> luggage or, as is not unusual, they have to bring more things
> with them.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

....like.....?

Reply from: central
Date: 06 May 2008, 15:45
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:25:03 +0000, James Silverton wrote:

> tims wrote on Tue, 6 May 2008 08:19:50 +0100:
>
>> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that
>> 24 Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in
>> the headline!).
>
>> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
>> genuine taxes).
>
>> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
>> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that
>> people check in bags for fun.
>
> I've never flown Ryanair but I wonder if their luggage policies could be
> considered age discrimnation? Seniors will be charged more because they
> are incapable of manhandling heavy carryon luggage or, as is not
> unusual, they have to bring more things with them.

Anyone (senior or otherwise) who cant manage a 10kg bag would be very ill
advised to fly with Ryanair. Its best described as an 'interesting'
experience.

Reply from: whitely525@yahoo.co.uk
Date: 06 May 2008, 18:57
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On 6 May, 14:45, central <centra...@fastmail.NOSPAMfm> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:25:03 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
> > tims  wrote  on Tue, 6 May 2008 08:19:50 +0100:
>
> >> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that
> >> 24 Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in=

> >> the headline!).
>
> >> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
> >> genuine taxes).
>
> >> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees=

> >> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that
> >> people check in bags for fun.
>
> > I've never flown Ryanair but I wonder if their luggage policies could be=

> > considered age discrimnation? Seniors will be charged more because they
> > are incapable of manhandling heavy carryon luggage or, as is not
> > unusual, they have to bring more things with them.
>
> Anyone (senior or otherwise) who cant manage a 10kg bag would be very ill
> advised to fly with Ryanair. Its best described as an 'interesting'
> experience.

BA had policy that you had to be able to lift your own bag into the
locker. When I was on Ryanair I had to help a guy who was too
bladdered to get his (oversized) bag into the locker above his seat.
Naturally I watched his pathetic attempts for a couple of minutes to
see if the cabin staff would intervene (at check-in and security it
was obvious he and is pal were totally wasted, but he was allowed to
board).

Needless to say he slumped forward against the headrest and snored
like a warthog throughout the flight.









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Reply from: Runge11
Date: 06 May 2008, 21:26
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

This is not the US, don't try getting money in court for any idea that
passes thru your mind


"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@verizon.not> a écrit dans le message de
news:z6YTj.5501$0L.4719@trnddc07...
> tims wrote on Tue, 6 May 2008 08:19:50 +0100:
>
>> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
>> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK
>> I exaggerated in the headline!).
>
>> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
>> genuine taxes).
>
>> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase
>> baggage fees until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think
>> that people check in bags for fun.
>
> I've never flown Ryanair but I wonder if their luggage policies could be
> considered age discrimnation? Seniors will be charged more because they
> are incapable of manhandling heavy carryon luggage or, as is not unusual,
> they have to bring more things with them.
>
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Reply from: whitely525@yahoo.co.uk
Date: 06 May 2008, 14:25
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

On 6 May, 08:19, "tims next home" <tims new h...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>
> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
> headline!).
>
> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less genuin=
e
> taxes).
>
> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
> until half of our passengers check-in online".  Does he think that peopl=
e
> check in bags for fun.
>
> I'm off on holiday today and I have just managed to get my stuff in a carr=
y
> on bag.  But that's an EZY carry on bag with no weight limit and 20% lar=
ger
> dimensions than FR. I would have failed to manage this with a Ryanair size=
d
> bag.  And I have compromised on the stuff I am taking to manage it at al=
l: I
> have my small crappy camera instead of the big one that I prefer to take,
> and I'm allowed insufficient liquid toiletries so that I'm going to have t=
o
> buy stuff when I arrive which I will have to throw away part used (I do ha=
te
> the effect on the earth's resources of this throw away society!).
>
> I really do think that he is going too far with these new charges.

Its amazing how sensitive people are to these charges... as if they
have been mugged. Yet they only underline how cheap the flight is. I
wonder what is the lease cost of a 737 (inc maintenance)..? And even
Ryanair cabin crew have to be paid something....

Once a hotel tried to add 1 Euro to my bill "for charity". The idea
was it is an easy way to collect money if it is by 'default'. Of
course I was having none of it... it really screws up expense claims
which then have to be split into 2 items and converted into local
currrency. I would have agreed if it was a separate charge but then
that would have been 2 x the the credit card processing fee which I
guess would have wiped out the 1 Euro..!





> tim


Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 06 May 2008, 19:17
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

tims next home <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>
> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
> headline!).
>
> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less genuine
> taxes).
>
> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
> check in bags for fun.

No, but if you have to pay for it, you think twice. We certainly do
nowadays. Checking in luggage incurs an extra cost to an airline- it's
perfectly understandable they target it, not least given the other
things targetted- credit card fees for example.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -w w w .davidhorne . net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: Andy Pandy
Date: 06 May 2008, 20:13
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag


"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:1igj6r5.80m92ziqlo2jN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> No, but if you have to pay for it, you think twice. We certainly do
> nowadays. Checking in luggage incurs an extra cost to an airline-
it's
> perfectly understandable they target it, not least given the other
> things targetted- credit card fees for example.

But they target debit cards too - and they charge *per passenger per
leg*, so AIUI a family of 4 on a return trip would pay 8 debit card
charges!! Even though only one payment is taken!

--
Andy



Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 07 May 2008, 09:22
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Andy Pandy <spam8times@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:1igj6r5.80m92ziqlo2jN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> > No, but if you have to pay for it, you think twice. We certainly do
> > nowadays. Checking in luggage incurs an extra cost to an airline-
> it's
> > perfectly understandable they target it, not least given the other
> > things targetted- credit card fees for example.
>
> But they target debit cards too - and they charge *per passenger per
> leg*, so AIUI a family of 4 on a return trip would pay 8 debit card
> charges!! Even though only one payment is taken!

No, you pay per transaction, and debit cards _do_ incur charges for the
business, just less than credit cards. Ryanair et al are not passing on
the _exact_ cost difference of course...

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -w w w .davidhorne . net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: Andy Pandy
Date: 07 May 2008, 10:33
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag


"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:1igk9vf.1abi1zdraxo54N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> Andy Pandy <spam8times@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> > message news:1igj6r5.80m92ziqlo2jN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> > > No, but if you have to pay for it, you think twice. We certainly
do
> > > nowadays. Checking in luggage incurs an extra cost to an
airline-
> > it's
> > > perfectly understandable they target it, not least given the
other
> > > things targetted- credit card fees for example.
> >
> > But they target debit cards too - and they charge *per passenger
per
> > leg*, so AIUI a family of 4 on a return trip would pay 8 debit
card
> > charges!! Even though only one payment is taken!
>
> No, you pay per transaction,

It says in the information on handling fees

"To defray the substantial administration costs we incur processing
debit and credit cards a handling fee applies to each passenger per
flight segment"

> and debit cards _do_ incur charges for the
> business, just less than credit cards.

About 60p IIRC.

> Ryanair et al are not passing on
> the _exact_ cost difference of course...

No!

--
Andy



Reply from: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*
Date: 07 May 2008, 13:03
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag

Andy Pandy <spam8times@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:

> "David Horne, the chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:1igk9vf.1abi1zdraxo54N%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> > Andy Pandy <spam8times@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > "David Horne, the chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> > > message news:1igj6r5.80m92ziqlo2jN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> > > > No, but if you have to pay for it, you think twice. We certainly
> do
> > > > nowadays. Checking in luggage incurs an extra cost to an
> airline-
> > > it's
> > > > perfectly understandable they target it, not least given the
> other
> > > > things targetted- credit card fees for example.
> > >
> > > But they target debit cards too - and they charge *per passenger
> per
> > > leg*, so AIUI a family of 4 on a return trip would pay 8 debit
> card
> > > charges!! Even though only one payment is taken!
> >
> > No, you pay per transaction,
>
> It says in the information on handling fees
>
> "To defray the substantial administration costs we incur processing
> debit and credit cards a handling fee applies to each passenger per
> flight segment"

Just checked, you're right. I had a look at our receipt for the Madrid
flight a month ago. They total cost was £19 return per person...

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -w w w .davidhorne . net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Reply from: Lennart Petersen
Date: 06 May 2008, 20:22
Re: Ryanair: 25 pounds to check a bag



"tims next home" <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:68afe2F2sdm75U1@mid.individual . net ...
> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7383786.stm
>
> Price per bag up to 8 GBP plus cost to check in at desk 4 GBP so that 24
> Pounds per return trip to check in a single bag (OK I exaggerated in the
> headline!).
>
> That's more than I am used to for paying for the whole flight (less
> genuine taxes).
>
> And Molly patronisingly says "We will continue to increase baggage fees
> until half of our passengers check-in online". Does he think that people
> check in bags for fun.
>
No they don't . But you've a choice to travel Ryan or not. And you've
probably a choice to have a carry-on or not. As it's much money involved
with checked luggage handling I think it's fair that those using that
service have to pay for it.
Don't like it ? Just go with another airline.




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